Dakota 2wd in Snow??

From : radar

Q: anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. .

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From : redneck tookover hellredneck tookover hell

he used the b&m weighted convertor flex plate. he doesnt need to change convertors ive installed a flexplate from b&m to hook to my a727. helpful. nope but did you change the torque converter too 318 is internally ballanced engine. 360 has balance weights in flywheel/converter. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : camille

just throw about six sandbags in the back and get some good snow tires youll be fine. i drove my 94 2wd chevy through eight winters here in alaska and never had a major problem. dale radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. .

From : jr

coming up to 10 winters on my 93 - 318.. 2wd w/ post. never ran snow tires but 2-3 times i did get some help from the limited slip and 4- 50lb sand bags. i also keep a set of chains in the back from walmart. used them about the same # of times over 10 years. cul jr on sun 16 nov 2003 220046 gmt camille camille@alaska.net wrote just throw about six sandbags in the back and get some good snow tires youll be fine. i drove my 94 2wd chevy through eight winters here in alaska and never had a major problem. dale radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. .

From : frosty

i have a 2003 2wd dakota cc slt...with the limited slip. it does slide around some of course only if i step on the pedal too much 4.7 engine that was without any weight in the back. with all the ice an snow here lately i added some cement blocks to the rear and it improved alot. alot better traction now from a standstiill and with accelerating at speed. only thing ive noticed with the ltd slip is the tendency for the back end to swing sideways any time the rear wheels start to spin which doesnt take much with that 4.7. i did have my tires changed over to the wrangler a/ps 65 series. so far so good with them. the ls tires though do not look like a good winter tire.you may wanna consider getting 2 good winter tires for the back at least. good luck frosty on sun 16 nov 2003 203512 -0500 jr jr@nospam.com wrote coming up to 10 winters on my 93 - 318.. 2wd w/ post. never ran snow tires but 2-3 times i did get some help from the limited slip and 4- 50lb sand bags. i also keep a set of chains in the back from walmart. used them about the same # of times over 10 years. cul jr on sun 16 nov 2003 220046 gmt camille camille@alaska.net wrote just throw about six sandbags in the back and get some good snow tires youll be fine. i drove my 94 2wd chevy through eight winters here in alaska and never had a major problem. dale radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. .

From : redneck tookover hell

i did have my tires changed over to the wrangler a/ps 65 series. so far so good with them. the ls tires though do not look like a good winter tire.you may wanna consider getting 2 good winter tires for the back at least. it must be that growing up with snow for about 7 months of the year changes the perspective of driving in it. ive owned maybe 2 sets of snow tires in my life. had a 1969 gmc pickup with a 73 454 with 3 speed manual and a 1975 dodge pickup with a 440 & automatic. the dodge never had a snow tire on it. at the time going to college also had a 340 in my challenger with a 3000 stall convertor. drove it in the snow occasionally. in the 80s i owned an 1986 chrysler lebaron gts 2.2 turbo. it had the wide handling v rated tires on it. i was up in reno nv. it snowed about a foot overnight. i drove up to virginia city in the snow.. first car over the road never turned a tire going up the mountain growing up on the farm i can only remember my dad buying a couple sets of snow tires. hes 86 now still drives still doesnt have snow tires on his car still lives where snow is around about 7 months of the year. somehow it escapes me how posting a question on an internet group asking how to drive in snow is going to help very much i think you ought to go out and drive in it myself and find out what works and what doesnt take a big scoop shovel along and go out and get stuck a couple times ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : budd cochran

red i agree with you basically i grew up in in and as denny will tell you the winters are wet icy snowy or any two those on the on the shorts filling plan. i liked snow tires with an aggressive open tread goodyear used to make a tire with a 5/8 gap between lugs but not too wide. where you denny and myself have an advantage is that we know you do nothing sudden in snow. you drive smooth and plan everything well ahead. 27 years ago in central in i called into work because i didnt want to risk getting stuck a 1/4 mile from the shop in a 5 foot drift. that was after driving 8 miles in 15 of wet snow and passing four vehicles including a jeep with wide snow tires stuck in the snow. that was in my old 65 dodge dart with nearly bald radials. btw i still like piling the snow from the driveway into the truck no tonneau covers please!!! as weight. it melts out and only rarely do you need to shovel it out . . . and its free! -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ i did have my tires changed over to the wrangler a/ps 65 series. so far so good with them. the ls tires though do not look like a good winter tire.you may wanna consider getting 2 good winter tires for the back at least. it must be that growing up with snow for about 7 months of the year changes the perspective of driving in it. ive owned maybe 2 sets of snow tires in my life. had a 1969 gmc pickup with a 73 454 with 3 speed manual and a 1975 dodge pickup with a 440 & automatic. the dodge never had a snow tire on it. at the time going to college also had a 340 in my challenger with a 3000 stall convertor. drove it in the snow occasionally. in the 80s i owned an 1986 chrysler lebaron gts 2.2 turbo. it had the wide handling v rated tires on it. i was up in reno nv. it snowed about a foot overnight. i drove up to virginia city in the snow.. first car over the road never turned a tire going up the mountain growing up on the farm i can only remember my dad buying a couple sets of snow tires. hes 86 now still drives still doesnt have snow tires on his car still lives where snow is around about 7 months of the year. somehow it escapes me how posting a question on an internet group asking how to drive in snow is going to help very much i think you ought to go out and drive in it myself and find out what works and what doesnt take a big scoop shovel along and go out and get stuck a couple times ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. --- outgoing mail is certified virus free by avg and norton checked by avg anti-virus system http//www.grisoft.com. version 6.0.537 / virus database 332 - release date 11/6/2003 .

From : denny

red i agree with you basically i grew up in in and as denny will tell you the winters are wet icy snowy or any two those on the on the shorts filling plan. who wears shorts i liked snow tires with an aggressive open tread goodyear used to make a tire with a 5/8 gap between lugs but not too wide. where you denny and myself have an advantage is that we know you do nothing sudden in snow. you drive smooth and plan everything well ahead. yep. put the blade on before the snow hits and fill the gas tank!! g denny .

From : clare snyder on ca

on 16 nov 2003 121628 -0800 radar@accesswave.ca radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. with posi when you spin you spin both wheels and you go anywhere except straight. id rather not go than go on an unplanned off road excursion .

From : denny

on 16 nov 2003 121628 -0800 radar@accesswave.ca radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. with posi when you spin you spin both wheels and you go anywhere except straight. id rather not go than go on an unplanned off road excursion i gotta disagree with ya on the open differential. here in the flatlands you can go easy on the gas pedal to keep both rear tires from spinning. aint nothing worse than sitting on a slight up-grade and one rear tire spinning it ass off and not going anywhere. a good set of snowtires and 4-500 lbs in the back will make a heck of a difference just be sure to secure the weight down so it stays put. denny .

From : budd cochran

red i agree with you basically i grew up in in and as denny will tell you the winters are wet icy snowy or any two those on the on the shorts filling plan. who wears shorts ah dang-it. i forget you cant wear bvds and the suit can you i liked snow tires with an aggressive open tread goodyear used to make a tire with a 5/8 gap between lugs but not too wide. where you denny and myself have an advantage is that we know you do nothing sudden in snow. you drive smooth and plan everything well ahead. yep. put the blade on before the snow hits and fill the gas tank!! g denny uh right . . . . . . . time to sneak out the back door . . . . . -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ .

From : budd cochran

never learned how to do a controlled skid huh -- budd cochran in tribute to the united states of america and the state of israel two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ------ on 16 nov 2003 121628 -0800 radar@accesswave.ca radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. with posi when you spin you spin both wheels and you go anywhere except straight. id rather not go than go on an unplanned off road excursion .

From : redneck tookover hell

real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on thu 20 nov 2003 172806 gmt clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s finger slipped - make that 225/45 17 and 225/45 18 too. .

From : clare snyder on ca

on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : denny

you must have different kind of snow up there as we have down here in ohio. a damned bulldozer wouldnt go thru 4 feet of this wet heavy shit down here let alone a 4 wheel drive pick up. denny on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : denny

found out the only difference between 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive when you got right down to it was 4 wheel drive got you farther from help!!. lol aint that the truth!! around here we seldom get more than 8-10 inches snow.. keep the wise cracks to yourselves!!! bg at a time and it is usually the wet shit that packs down. if you tried hitting a waist deep drift over the road you would get launched about 10 feet into the air. i run a snow plow route with my ole dodge and the limited slip is a must along with about 400 lbs in the back and a good set of snow tires. its just like farming what works in one part of the country aint worth a shit in the next. denny .

From : clare snyder on ca

on thu 20 nov 2003 230546 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote you must have different kind of snow up there as we have down here in ohio. a damned bulldozer wouldnt go thru 4 feet of this wet heavy shit down here let alone a 4 wheel drive pick up. denny some days we get that heavy slop too - but we get a lot of the light fluffy stuff that goes sideways past the window in high winds at well below freezing. it freezes to the roads as it blows across them making black ice first then hardpack. then it keeps drifting making big solid drifts. where there are windbreaks on the side of the road like hedges cuts snowplow ridges etc. the snow just lays in in deep soft long drifts. unless you get a thaw/freeze before it is plowed or before you hit it a 2 wheel drive pickup with a good load on it will plough right through. - at least through the first one. sometimes you have to back up and take another run to make it through the second one. good snow tires are mandatory. all seasons dont cut it in that stuff. and posi just gets you crosswize in the drift when you goose it to get through. particularly when that drift is covering the aforementioned hardpack and/or black ice. as a young guy i tackled snow drifts with both car and truck that would almost scare me with a snowmobile today!! i remember taking the powerwagon out to the curling club on the edge of town to get the curlers out. run kalijah in and out a few times to level the drifts then go and pull a few out. if you waited too long at either end of the lane you had to make a few more runs to clear the way for the next tow. the lane was a good half mile long. had a 63 galaxie stuck on the sideroad accross from the curling club its a town street now one friday afternoon so i went out to get it. one of those solid drifts crossed the road about 1/4 mile in - and i went in over it with the powerwagon. latched onto the galaxie to pull it out and took a run for the drift. half way through i lost traction the wheels turned and the chains broke though the hard surface. before i knew what was happening i came to a stop in snow up to the windows. i crawled out and went for the tractor. by the time i got back the powerwagon had cooled off was hot as a cherry when it went in and it was starting to form a big ball of ice. i buried the big john deere up to the axles trying to get it out and decided to leave it till morning as by now it was after dark. the boss got a call from the road superintendent at about 7am the next morning complaining about the tow-truck blocking the road so the plow couldnt get through. to make a long story short it took 2 highway plows and a 6 wheel drive grader to pull it out. about 2 days in the shop to melt all the ice out of the truck. it would storm so bad it was no longer possible to get the cars out of the drifts/ditches so wed just bring the people back into town with the truck. the airconditioning on the powerwagon worked real good in the winter and the heater in the summer. may as well have been an open roadster with the gaps around the doors no floormats and virtually no packing around the pedals or floorshift. when it got real bad and the powerwagon could not keep up id send one of the other guys with it and id take the big pickup 292 six with a heavy snowmobile on the back. made sure the snowmobile tank was full and out id go. every hour wed switch so the guy driving the powerwagon got a chance to thaw out. never needed the snowmobile to get home. got close a couple times. found out the only difference between 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive when you got right down to it was 4 wheel drive got you farther from help!!. on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it doe

From : clare snyder on ca

on fri 21 nov 2003 174257 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. you drove through 4 feet of snow with a 2wd 63 chevy 1/2 ton that is pure bullshit !!!!! oh i see you busted through through drifts up to the windows as well. cmon give us a break will ya. pedal that to the folks in fla. no bs. and my dads 1/2 ton 69 chevy and 3/4 ton toyota did it on a regular basis as well with over a ton of weight on the boxelectrical contractor box full of tools and wire. the vans were not as good at bucking snow. the loaded pickups would go through where a cj5 or cj7 would not. note the drifts were only about 2 truck lengths long sparated by about 1- 1 1/2. the time the 1 ton got stuck was on hardpack in about 1 1/2 feet of loose snow. backed in and could not get traction to get out. snowmobile on a rope and truck in gear idling got it out. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : roy

on fri 21 nov 2003 174257 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. you drove through 4 feet of snow with a 2wd 63 chevy 1/2 ton that is pure bullshit !!!!! oh i see you busted through through drifts up to the windows as well. cmon give us a break will ya. pedal that to the folks in fla. no bs. and my dads 1/2 ton 69 chevy and 3/4 ton toyota did it on a regular basis as well with over a ton of weight on the boxelectrical contractor box full of tools and wire. the vans were not as good at bucking snow. the loaded pickups would go through where a cj5 or cj7 would not. note the drifts were only about 2 truck lengths long sparated by about 1- 1 1/2. the time the 1 ton got stuck was on hardpack in about 1 1/2 feet of loose snow. backed in and could not get traction to get out. snowmobile on a rope and truck in gear idling got it out. well i gotta give it to ya you do stick to the same bs. you may run that rap through people that dont have any experience in snow but there are a few of us that plow it and know what happens when ya hit a drift that is window height. and you claim you busted through with 2wd!! again bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

From : clare snyder on ca

on sat 22 nov 2003 223355 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote on fri 21 nov 2003 174257 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. you drove through 4 feet of snow with a 2wd 63 chevy 1/2 ton that is pure bullshit !!!!! oh i see you busted through through drifts up to the windows as well. cmon give us a break will ya. pedal that to the folks in fla. no bs. and my dads 1/2 ton 69 chevy and 3/4 ton toyota did it on a regular basis as well with over a ton of weight on the boxelectrical contractor box full of tools and wire. the vans were not as good at bucking snow. the loaded pickups would go through where a cj5 or cj7 would not. note the drifts were only about 2 truck lengths long sparated by about 1- 1 1/2. the time the 1 ton got stuck was on hardpack in about 1 1/2 feet of loose snow. backed in and could not get traction to get out. snowmobile on a rope and truck in gear idling got it out. well i gotta give it to ya you do stick to the same bs. you may run that rap through people that dont have any experience in snow but there are a few of us that plow it and know what happens when ya hit a drift that is window height. and you claim you busted through with 2wd!! again bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ive plowed snow too with a 76 ramcharger - and there are drifts - and there are drifts. the good cold fluffy stuff you can bust through. the warm wet sticky stuff you cannot. the cold soft fluffy stuff after it has settled you cannot bust through. thats the stuff that swallowed the power wagon. all of the drift busting ive ever done has been fresh blizzard stuff. no snow in the lane at 10am and drifted full to the top of the fence by 330 pm. or the storm started at midnight and im trying to get to work in the morning. or trying to get home after work when the storm started after i got there - ive had the hood so tightly packed with snow you could not see the engine and the cross-braces of the underside of the hood left marks in the snow. you want very good spark plug wires etc when that happens. if you get only part way through the drift you get out and jump on the back of th

From : roy

on sat 22 nov 2003 223355 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote on fri 21 nov 2003 174257 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. you drove through 4 feet of snow with a 2wd 63 chevy 1/2 ton that is pure bullshit !!!!! oh i see you busted through through drifts up to the windows as well. cmon give us a break will ya. pedal that to the folks in fla. no bs. and my dads 1/2 ton 69 chevy and 3/4 ton toyota did it on a regular basis as well with over a ton of weight on the boxelectrical contractor box full of tools and wire. the vans were not as good at bucking snow. the loaded pickups would go through where a cj5 or cj7 would not. note the drifts were only about 2 truck lengths long sparated by about 1- 1 1/2. the time the 1 ton got stuck was on hardpack in about 1 1/2 feet of loose snow. backed in and could not get traction to get out. snowmobile on a rope and truck in gear idling got it out. well i gotta give it to ya you do stick to the same bs. you may run that rap through people that dont have any experience in snow but there are a few of us that plow it and know what happens when ya hit a drift that is window height. and you claim you busted through with 2wd!! again bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ive plowed snow too with a 76 ramcharger - and there are drifts - and there are drifts. the good cold fluffy stuff you can bust through. the warm wet sticky stuff you cannot. the cold soft fluffy stuff after it has settled you cannot bust through. thats the stuff that swallowed the power wagon. all of the drift busting ive ever done has been fresh blizzard stuff. no snow in the lane at 10am and drifted full to the top of the fence by 330 pm. or the storm started at midnight and im trying to get to work in the morning. or trying to get home after work when the storm started after i got there - ive had the hood so tightly packed with snow you could not see the engine and the cross-braces of the underside of the hood left marks in the snow. you want very good spark plug wires etc when that happens. if you get only part way through the drift you get out and jump on

From : roy

on 19 nov 2003 212327 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote real snow tires how freaken wide do you think they come would you believe 265/45 17s theres a reason they are called snow tires and as far as not going straight with a limited slip rear differential you obviously never heard of not flooring the accelerator when driving in snow. you werent the person i saw in alabama years ago in 2 inches of snow flooring the accelerator fishtailing down the street hitting cars on both sides of the street ive driven vehicles in snow & ice with both open and limited slip never fishtailed with either no you pompous jackass. ive driven in lots of snow - snow like youve never seen. in hills too. try going up a hill on ice covered hardpack with a 2 wheel drive pickup - your choice of snow tires studs not allowed - illegal here. with an open rear end one wheel will spin you modulate your power to minimize the spin and you continue to climb. the same vehicle with a locked or posi rear end will spin both tires and the rear of the truck will slide down the crown of the road towards the ditch or curb. if you are lucky one will regain traction before you leave the road. yes the posi will not start to spin as soon - but when it does you are in trouble. with the open rear end a light touch on the brakes will often give the spinning tire enough resistance that the idle wheel will get enough torque transferred to it to pull you forward to where both tires again have traction - a sort of manual tractioncontrol you want snow you want to drive in the southern ontario snowbelt - around london stratford listowel kenilworth elmira and waterloo areas. during the seventies i was driving tow truck there. a 47 dodge army power wagon with chains on all 4. managed to get it stuck once in snow up to the windows. a bit more speed and id have got through that one too - but the 63 galaxie behind me provided a bit too much drag. used to break drifts with that truck deeper than the height of the hood. had a 63 chevy halfton and a 67 or 68 one ton both 2 wheel drive as well. with a good load on the box either one would go through 4 feet of snow. no posi. and on icy hardpack if you couldnt go with them you wouldnt go with a posi either. got the one ton stuck once - took the old boaski snowmobile off the back and pulled it out. the boss got a new pickup with posi - and it would slide off the road at the slightest provocation under the same conditions. going through the deep stuff a bit better than the old trucks with the open rear end - but not significantly better. get good snow tires - not too wide and some weight. imo you are better off without the limited slip because when you spin one wheel although you are not going anywhere you are staying straight. you drove through 4 feet of snow with a 2wd 63 chevy 1/2 ton that is pure bullshit !!!!! oh i see you busted through through drifts up to the windows as well. cmon give us a break will ya. pedal that to the folks in fla. ill start watching reality tv shows when i can vote people off the planet. .

From : clare snyder on ca

after reading all your bs im getting the feeling you might be the same person that was here about a year ago who had a story about a 9 plow on a 1/2 ton pu. the again their story had a 1/2 ton 4x4 not a 2wd with an open rear end. roy nope - did my plowing with a 76 ramcharger 4x4 and an 8 foot frink. also used toyota 4x4 with 8 ft frink when i worked at the toyota dealership. neither had posi - and the toy with a good weight in the box worked better than the 8 cyl ramcharger.both did work well though. id never plow with 2dw although i know guys who do. .

From : kitt n dre

on 16 nov 2003 121628 -0800 radar@accesswave.ca radar wrote anyone have any luck with a dakota 2wd in the snow i didnt get the anti slip rear end and i also have the goodyear ls tires. i should have gotten the 4wd but i couldnt afford the higher price. im going to put some weight in the back but i am thinking i should buy some better tires or the anti slip rear end. this will be my first winter with the truck and im concerned that i maybe slip sliding everywhere. i live in nova scotia so the winters arent too bad. thanks for any help you can give me. i have a 99 dakota sport 2wd with auto and 3.55 gears in rear diff last x-mas eve idrove 40 miles on roads with 2 to 6 in of snow/ice i started in 2nd gear and never had a problem! ihad 150lb of sand in rear of bed and remington wide brute aw tires .