Cummins idle time
From : sazrac
Q: roy wrote on feb 6 254 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on feb 6 902 am roy r...@home.net wrote but you learned how to spell the name of the truck you are driving. thanks for proving my point roy. well i figure that if ya come on like a asshole ya get treated like one. maybe you should either lighten up of get a thicker skin. now that i think about it didnt you have a problem with your cruise or od dropping out i remember a deal with the tps brake light switch.... i believe you received the help you needed with no problem. but then again i could be wrong impossible you practice buddism! ya friggin heathen! with buddism ya can say and do whatever the hell ya want and be correct. if ya want i suppose i can google our offended mr. ring and see if im correct or not. damn!!! i was right! mr ring posted on the 24th of dec about a od prob. both myself and tom l answered him. on the 26th he posted that it was the brake light switch was the culpert. i mentioned on the 24th. as being the cheapest fix. yup im an ass hole. one with a long memory. i thought that this group was about trucks not whos the biggest asshole .what good does knowing who the biggest asshole do to make my truck run better !!!!!!!!!.
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From : roy
tbone wrote that kind of crap exists everywhere miles so what exactly is your point nathan says it does not exist because the church has a written policy against it. .
From : chris thompson
on feb 15 301 pm electric...@xo.com electrician wrote 989fda32fedf8bc5974744f3142db...@localhost.talkaboutautos.com larkval...@nospam.msn.com says... tried to start it yesterday morning after an ice storm the maintainence light has been on any suggestions thanks! frozen gas line. wait until spring after it thaws out and then try it again. hampsters staved to death replace with gerbils. sorry tom but i think wiley has ya on the funniest cause/fix. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .
From : roy
not to mention the name of the church. lol.....good point! -- nathan in montana http//concealedcarryforum.com http//1911talk.com http//glockcarry.com .
From : nosey
on feb 15 139 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote so if this is the problem what is the cause and fix if its just being sucked out from the slipstream relocate the vent tube somewhere else where its protected from that and/or put back the missing/never-there-to-begin-with little white plastic vent cap thingy that allows the vent line to breathe but would prevent the sucking phenomenon. cool! you da man! .
From : carolina watercraft works
on feb 8 1144 am roy r...@home.net wrote on my 05 they added a flash that allowed me to start the truck hit cruise and use the up down buttons to advance the idle. i think it went up to 1200rpmmaybe higher i forget. as im sure you know on cold days letting it idle it warms up then cools itself right off. with the higher idle it maintains operating temp. sorry if im being thick here by they you mean the dealership if so i will call and see if this is an option for my 2004. was it free you can always depend on a college student to ask that question. - craig c. .
From : carolina watercraft works
i think i recall seeing on the cummins website that you shouldnt idle for any longer than 15 minutes. wish i could find it again but for some reason it is sticking in my head. yup thats why at the higher idle operating temp is maintained. normal idle it will cool off. roy ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels 2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins i recently started having problems with apparent missing low power and fuel mileage. i took the truck back to the dealer to resolve the problem as i only have 2500 miles on it. the response from the dealer appeared very vague and left me uncomfortable. when i went to pick up the truck i made sure i found the service manager to get a better explanation of the problem. i could tell from talking to him it was a problem that was frusterating to him also. the report i get is that i let the truck idle too much. with some recent design changes in the last year or so the cummins trucks apparently shouldnt be left to idle much. it was reported to me an acceptable idle was about 20% of running time where-as my truck showed about 33% idle time while running. apparently idling to much seems to gum up the injector system. cummins wont warranty the problem. the solution according to the dealer is a fuel system cleaning or flush or what-ever. the service guy let me know that cummins didnt consider it their problem so the dealers were having to eat the cost of the fuel system cleaning to the tune of $250. the guy told me this was the third late model cummins diesel to come in in a month with the same problem. according to him cummins was aware of the problem was working on a solution but was being vague in acknowledging the problem as to not accept responsibility. i mentioned to the guy that i thought diesels were generally used in situations where long idle times were normal and that the owners manual encourages owners to let the engines idle in order to properly coold the turbo. i mentioned that in town driving involved lots of idle times. he said cummins response to that was that if thats the type of driving one does you should buy a gas vehicle. anyone have any opinion or input i like my cummins/dodge but its looking like after 2500 miles i might have picked the wrong vehicle. sazrac .
From : roy
what color uniform was the slug wearing and did it have a wardrobe malfunction -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. ....even more boring than a slug crawling up a wall. .
From : Annonymous
i always take my dodge vehicles to a 5 star dealer. ive never had a problem. ive got a 2006 cummins with about 2500 miles on it. in the last week or so it appears to occasionally be missing on a cylinder. usually its in the first couple of minutes of driving but not always. i guess the prudent thing to do is just bring it to the dealer and i plan on it but any opinions sazrac .
From : farmer john
on thu 8 feb 2007 153957 -0700 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom.net wrote interesting you should mention this. i had my first contact with anti-mormons a couple weks after i wa baptized. and also had contact with them before at church activities. too bad you didnt listen. you are quite incorrect in several points. first that ive not heard that. part response is that ive been exposed to the best of the anti forces of darkness. second the lds church uses the king james version of the bible quite extensively. and when they do the spirit of the lord is strong that the teachings are correct. they use selected parts of it out of context and with authorized interpretations. ask your bishop to explain ephesians 28-9 and how it applies to mormons. as to lying to the members id say that ive experienced much more lying by anti-mormons. that is if you believe your bishop is beling truthful about the liars. budd wow. dudd you have really sunk to new levels with this. how sad and how low can you go i am not a mormon but i respect the right of people to be a member and to hold their beliefs. your bottom drawer critique of that religion is as classless and unchristian a thing as i have seen here. you whine like a baby whenever anyone says anything against your religion then you have the gall to say absolutely unfair untrue and hateful things about the right of another to have their religion. you are an emberassment to humanity as well as a total moron. .
From : roy
on 5 feb 2007 201842 -0800 yabahoobs chendrikson@gmail.com wrote my truck is the first p/u ive ever driven let alone the first v8 ive ever been behind. alot different than the 6-banger in the caravan and behind that...the lil saturn engine...im always paranoid somethings wrong with it.... just remember most pick-up trucks have no weight on the back end during rainy days the back end will tend to fish-tail on some pick-ups and depending on your tires you may find you have to take off kinda slow when the payments wet.... especially if you have mud-grips.... .
From : craig c
on thu 8 feb 2007 121346 -0500 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote well the secular folks cant agree on any religion. so youll have to do what i did. study with mormons and pray to know the truth. oddly enough ive seen some of the type of web sites youve sent in the past. they the websites are the ones not telling the truth. i wonder about you sometimes also. and you think the mormons tell you the truth oh boy this is coming from the religion that believes you have to use their bible to justify their beliefs.... .
From : craig c
interesting you should mention this. i had my first contact with anti-mormons a couple weks after i wa baptized. and also had contact with them before at church activities. you are quite incorrect in several points. first that ive not heard that. part response is that ive been exposed to the best of the anti forces of darkness. second the lds church uses the king james version of the bible quite extensively. and when they do the spirit of the lord is strong that the teachings are correct. as to lying to the members id say that ive experienced much more lying by anti-mormons. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. in my experience i have found most mormons like stormin for example have never been told they do not worship the same jesus as the onein the bible. its a denomination that tells lies to convert people. how is that good i have found that most catholics believe they have to pray thru the holy chain of command to get an answer not supported by scripture btw most pentecostals think pspeaking in tongues is a requirement of salvation amd they can be taught how to do it also not supported by scripture. answer this would you not anyone else you rather know what is changed in your denomination from what the earliest christians believed or doesnt it matter if your farther from him than you should be because a man tells you to do it this way or to believe something no in the bible as being scripture .
From : roy
my bad...this is where i saw it http//dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/maint/3rdgen-24v.htm -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i think i recall seeing on the cummins website that you shouldnt idle for any longer than 15 minutes. wish i could find it again but for some reason it is sticking in my head. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels 2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins i recently started having problems with apparent missing low power and fuel mileage. i took the truck back to the dealer to resolve the problem as i only have 2500 miles on it. the response from the dealer appeared very vague and left me uncomfortable. when i went to pick up the truck i made sure i found the service manager to get a better explanation of the problem. i could tell from talking to him it was a problem that was frusterating to him also. the report i get is that i let the truck idle too much. with some recent design changes in the last year or so the cummins trucks apparently shouldnt be left to idle much. it was reported to me an acceptable idle was about 20% of running time where-as my truck showed about 33% idle time while running. apparently idling to much seems to gum up the injector system. cummins wont warranty the problem. the solution according to the dealer is a fuel system cleaning or flush or what-ever. the service guy let me know that cummins didnt consider it their problem so the dealers were having to eat the cost of the fuel system cleaning to the tune of $250. the guy told me this was the third late model cummins diesel to come in in a month with the same problem. according to him cummins was aware of the problem was working on a solution but was being vague in acknowledging the problem as to not accept responsibility. i mentioned to the guy that i thought diesels were generally used in situations where long idle times were normal and that the owners manual encourages owners to let the engines idle in order to properly coold the turbo. i mentioned that in town driving involved lots of idle times. he said cummins response to that was that if thats the type of driving one does you should buy a gas vehicle. anyone have any opinion or input i like my cummins/dodge but its looking like after 2500 miles i might have picked the wrong vehicle. sazrac .
From : roy
in comp.os.linux.advocacy linonut linonut@bone.com wrote on tue 06 feb 2007 222050 -0600 a4mdnxwak6czltynz2dnuvzuzinz2d@comcast.com after takin a swig o grog the ghost in the machine belched out this bit o wisdom im old enough to remember the close icon being in the upper left for example; amiga and athena had some interesting ideas about scroll bars. with xfce you can put them wherever you want on the title bar. ah. scrollbars could also be shifted by clicking in the trench. is that like the kde/fluxbox slit or the xfce/gnome dock actually i was referring to the sliding area of a scrollbar which visually looks a bit like a trench. youre referring to something else entirely specific to the window manager/environment. ill admit im not familiar with those beyond noting that mwm the motif windows manager did have an option for putting icons in a mwm-managed window. the window manager i use now -- metacity -- emulates win95 and every other windows family by putting long buttons in an area of the panel with text usually on the bottom. my god you type a lot. i type fast. - comes from 6th grade; never regretted it. -- #191 ewill3@earthlink.net new technology not there. no thanks. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : big al
hi i am interested in buying a dodge ram diesel 2500 or 3500 single or dually about 5 years old or so with a manual transmission. i understand there are 5 and 6 speed manuals. i would like a truck that is nice to drive on a long highway trip but can also carry a nice load and/or pull say a 60000-80000 lb. loaded trailer. does a manual get better fuel economy and are the automatics reliable what models/options/years must be avoided thanks in advance. land olakes fred .
From : chris thompson
budd cochran wrote the bible covers this when in matthew iirc jesus talked to the crowd about not following if someone comes along and says the messiah is in the desert another messiah. iow if another comes along claiming to have found a messiah and not the one found in the bible then dont believe them. this is what joseph smith has done and what makes it even more odd they teach the bible is incorrect yet they use selected portions to prove themselves always out of context. to compound the matter none of their doctrinal books doctrine and covenants for example even follows the book of mormon which teaches a triune god not polytheism. the palmyra new york court system has on record convictions against joseph smith as a fortune teller diviner fortune finder and con artist. it is recorded that he married multiple wives after sending their husbands on missions for the church yet claimed he did no such thing lying. jesus before he began his ministry was a carpenter. which would you find more believable a crook or a carpenter why was that carpenter nailed up on a cross according to the bible jesus was fully god and fully man conceived by the power of the holy spirit and not thru sex with the holy spiritas the lds believe. he lived a sinless life as a child in nazareth and was taught his eartly fathers trade carpentry. he came to teach man the truth that we are not worthy of gods notice that we cannot become worthy of gods love by our efforts to love one another to do all we can for each other even our enemies. to make us acceptable sinless for gods love and a place with god in heaven he was the sacrifice for all of mankinds sins on the cross to erase those sins. three days later by the jewish reckoning of days he rose from the dead to bring us as believers eternal life with god in glory be it the time in heaven or in the new jerusalem. before he returned to heaven and the right hand of god he commissioned all believers to spread the truth correct and rebuke errors and watch for his return. why was he nailed up to the cross for you and me and t-bone and larry and roy and everyone else. yeah that too. but i was asking about the chain of events that lead to the crucifixion. my point was that barabbas a crook was set free but the sinless carpenter was crucified by popular demand. people dont always side with the carpenter. i just deleted a long account of the denominations that i visited after joining the navy. the more i wrote the more depressing it got. i do think you would have liked the part about the singing and dancing church. i think that really /was/ reverend cleophus james. we sing nothing against it in the bible we dance again it is not condemned unless it is done to arouse sexual passions with someone the dancer is not married to iow a stripper stripping for money is a sin. im not trying to tell you its wrong for you to sing and dance in church. i couldnt keep up with them. lol i cant either any more. but i do have a slow dance with my wife on our anniversary and valentines day. i thought the reverend cleophus james reference would have tipped you off. if you still dont know who he is watch this video of him in action http//www.youtube.com/watchv=o9-rgodansc it was just like that but without the vertical leaps. today at the parts plus store still trying to sort out that danged lebaron a604 transmission i saw a late 70s chevy / gmc no badge but obviously one or the other because of the saddle tanks with a badge on its side that said f250 and another that said powerstroke. badging the truck as a ford did not make it one and neither will claiming to be christian make a denomination christian only following what the bible teaches as it is written can do that. maybe his truck made him mad and he was punishing it. as a christian the bible tells me to warn others of false religions including non-christian beliefs. budd .
From : roy
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. huh plenty of stick shifts have cruse crontrol. but a stick shift doesnt give the computer the required in park signal. thats why the high idle with cruise buttons only works on a stick. with all the toys they come up with a sensor when the parking brake was applied shouldnt be a big deal. roy ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. al .
From : big al
geekboy wrote geekboy wrote on mon 5 feb 2007 220850 -0600 geekboy wrote the hunt for a linux pc ---- quote | where can the average south african consumer get their hands on a | new pc loaded with linux instead of windows not a lot of places | as it turns out. ---- http//www.tectonic.co.za/view name some places in the us. there would be if there were any buyers. i suppose i could ask a linux user if there were some places to buy linux computers but although i know hundreds of computer users none of them use it on their personal computers. off the top of my head i only know one place that sells linux preinstalled. frys electronics. and that is a low budget computer. you can usually get it minus monitor for $199. and it is the linspire distribution formerly lindows thanks to m$. i have it on one of my personal computers. its good to know the major operating systems if it is your job. there were a a lot of linux on new computers a few years ago but mostly got dropped as linux got a bad reputation as not being very user friendly for the new or average user. also many hardware companies do not even make drivers for it. the problem for putting it on new computers it lack of support for newer or average users. m$ can do support because of also the sales of other items to go along with their os. there is many linux providers and not many of them selling other software with their distros. mostly only expensive support. i always wanted to get into linux but feared it. its used for a lot of science aps professional astronomy & spectroscopy etc. i was always waiting for a windows version my son is a ceo and former cio or a large corp and would have given me a machine years ago .... linux is used for higher level telescope control and spectroscopy analysis software like spectrum; the windows counterparts are all pure crap full of bugs and no documentation at all real crapware eg. vspec!. im too old to do it now ......... maybe give me a headsup if you think i should do this - why is linux sucha bitch to operate linux was derived from unix. unix was designed by and for programmers. linux still heavily retains its roots with text interface. i have a book that is 5 inches thick full of commands and included text based software that is included with linux and it covers only basic operations. it could take months to years to learn all that and the power that could be done as compared to windows. some software packages for linux is a serious learning curve and most non technical users would not be able to understand even how to insall some software on their linux. a lof of people who make software feel it is best to have the software compiled on their system is best policy to ensure it runs properly. that has changed a lot with different versions made for different platforms and making a rpm file for the software package which is similar to the windows installer. the desktop has also become a lot better and more windows like. one good thing about linux is that there is just not too many viruses and other malware for it. i can believe that. jerry .
From : roy
as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. al i wasnt aware of that. roy i tried to have it done to my truck. auto only al .
From : geekboy
after takin a swig o grog tbone belched out this bit o wisdom one good thing about linux is that there is just not too many viruses and other malware for it. i can believe that. that is because it is way too small of a target and provides no real bang for the buck. no its because windows is the low-hanging fruit according to bruce schneier. -- the reason for new versions is not to fix bugs. ... its the stupidest reason to buy a new version i ever heard. when we do a new version we put in lots of new things that people ask for. and so in no sense is stability a reason to move to a new version. its never a reason. -- bill gates .
From : rick505
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. huh plenty of stick shifts have cruse crontrol. al .
From : roy
2006 quad cab 3500 w/cummins as was mentioned there is a high idle flash that can be done if you dont already have it. iirc you can bring the idle up to 1200 rpm with the cruise control buttons only if its automatic. al .
From : tom lawrence
ya friggin heathen! with buddism ya can say and do whatever the hell ya want and be correct. if ya want i suppose i can google our offended mr. ring and see if im correct or not. damn!!! i was right! mr ring posted on the 24th of dec about a od prob. both myself and tom l answered him. on the 26th he posted that it was the brake light switch was the culpert. i mentioned on the 24th. as being the cheapest fix. yup im an ass hole. one with a long memory. i thought that this group was about trucks not whos the biggest asshole .what good does knowing who the biggest asshole do to make my truck run better !!!!!!!!! gads where the fuck did you come from is this the first post you ever read here man thats pretty tame stuff compared to most of it. you better leave until you grow a pair..........then you can come back. . 222 329626 12sih3o9gfa909d@corp.super.com roy wrote mike steve is a country yankee. lives about 80 miles west of me. indeed. in the more tranquil and sedate and civilized part of massachusetts! where car horns are an aberration and anyone using one in a long blast immediately identifies himself as being from boston and a pariah to be shunned. smartass!g boy with this 0 degree weather these seat are wonderful. i wonder how wide ride is doing with his. i generally bike commute the 10-11 miles each way to work. yesterday coming in i broke a chain just short of the office. yup the country yankeee out pedaling his bike with the wind chill at -10 to -20 below. got a ride home with a coworker in his subaru forrester... with heated seats! my very first exposure to this decadent feature of infernal combustion engineering! arent they the balls see!! see!! and yall made fun of me..... mike i liked it!!! gotta figure out how to put one on my bike! damn steve use your truck until it gets to 20 above will ya. how warm can i get a bike saddle with 6v/3w bottle generator one of my bikes has a home brew 20w headlight powered by a 12v about 20amp i think motorcycle battery. how well might that sort of power toast my buns smh .
From : nosey
scott hendryx wrote anyone know what the typical cost is for a dealer to change the plugs in an 03 dodge ram 1500 hemi hugh one kind of plug was about 3.00 each and the other was about 8.00 each. you got 16 plugs. cost of plugs is minor. there are 16 plugs. i have not changed mine but am told at least two cylinders are major buggers to get out and new ones installed for the average home mechanic with limited amount of tools. my dealer quoted 2 hours labor @ $90/hour plus the costs of the plugs. i did it myself in about 30 minutes. it only cost me a hunk of one knuckle. -- ------moparman------ ---signature pending yet another assine comment by mianderson--- .
From : roy
beekeep wrote they only lost a billion dollars last year! now they are shutting down 2 plants and letting go 13000 workers. the germans bought her for $40 billion. now they think they will be lucky to get $20 billion. one posible buyer is a chinese company wanting to get a foot hold in the american market. looks like the germans raped her pretty good. dmc made a public statement that says they wont separate and would rather integrate to a greater level. that was yesterday this is today! there is also a rumor circulating that dc and gm are in talks about gm acquiring chrysler........ we shall see..... highly unlikely unless gm wants to buy jeep and some of the brand names. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : brian
yes - see above. get a little more assertive not rude but assertive. start talking about buy-backs lemon law proceedings etc. secondly - ask them how any kind of gunk that builds up on an injector during period of relatively low pressure can sustain over 23000psi when operating at full speed also if its a clogging problem ask why its only affecting one injector... youve got a faulty injector and for whatever reason theyre trying to come up with reasons so they dont have to replace it. you bought a truck from them with a 100000 mile warranty on the engine. you should expect them to honor that and fix the problem - not give you made-up reasons why the manufacturer wont let them fix it. . 222 329623 1170816664.033579.195990@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com on feb 6 202 pm numan tbrdm...@sbcglobal.net wrote i bought a new 2006 quad cab dodge dakota st 4x4 for $25000 just this past september. it turns out that it doesnt fit my personality at all. it only has 4500 miles and is less than 6 months old and now places want to give me $14000 in trade in. i am dumb-founded! -- tim mcbride a.k.a. numan you should at least get around $18000 for it according to kelly blue book. .
From : roy
on feb 15 426 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote i like az man who wouldnt people who like temps less than 125. thats why you live near the mexican boarder man its cooler and you have hunt cans! lol - craig c. .
From : nosey
great!!! then gm can frig up even better than they have been. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. beekeep wrote they only lost a billion dollars last year! now they are shutting down 2 plants and letting go 13000 workers. the germans bought her for $40 billion. now they think they will be lucky to get $20 billion. one posible buyer is a chinese company wanting to get a foot hold in the american market. looks like the germans raped her pretty good. dmc made a public statement that says they wont separate and would rather integrate to a greater level. that was yesterday this is today! there is also a rumor circulating that dc and gm are in talks about gm acquiring chrysler........ we shall see..... mike .