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From : ignoramus4299

Q: you could probably make their lives a living hell but why for $156 and it probably really was a conincidencespeed sensor on my truck has gone out a couple of times in 8 years and nobody touched them. small claims court isnt freefiling fees time off from work but you have to decide what is worthwhile to you. so a mechanic did some work on my dodge rear diff. after that a speed sensor on the rear diff failed on the same day. they are now telling me that it is a purely random coincidence that it failed on the sale day as they did work there. asking me $156 to fix it it is a $30 part and a 5 minute job. they do not agree to just fix it for me for free. so i would like to know if there is anything i can do to make their life a little more difficult such as bringing some complaint somewhere that they would have to answer to etc. i could sue in small claims court and probably will win but that means taking time off work. i .

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From : ignoramus4299

totally bored so i was wandering around you tube. used the search typed in dr. hook. ya i know but some of the stuff was pretty cool. anyway ran across a old video baby makes her blue jeans talk wow! id forgotten about that one. if ya havent seen it take a look at the girl in the vid outstanding!! roy .

From : aarcuda69062

azwiley1 wrote if one logically thinks about this there are religious beliefs and/or systems out there that are much older then the catholic/christianity system how can they be older yet be wrong so true. we today are time wise much closer to the time of jesus than much of the worlds other civilizations. even the olmecs of south america existed 5000 years ago with a very rich religious culture. the egyptians and others go back even further. many of the worlds religions existed far longer than christianity has. .

From : aarcuda69062

ok thats it. you just want to argue. cya. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams budd cochran wrote uh because he was the god of those people his chosen people the israelites maybe so he was not the god of the rest of the people he created 2000 years ago the indians of mexico had no knowledge of this god. none. why not the people of asia had no knowledge why maybe because the book wasnt written there why is your book more valid then any other religions book written before or after -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : ignoramus4299

yes budd it would. being that i live in one of the boarder towns where they are coming through destroying our property the property of the hard working ranchers killing our friends and family the illegals killed the mother and father of a co-worker two years ago running from the police why shouldnt we keep them in their own country it would be keepin illegals in mexico right -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams i never thought id see the day wed need a berlin wall to keep people out. -- budd cochran slightly different. the berlin wall was meant to keep people in. ken -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : ignoramus4299

for three months my caravan with the 3.3 v/6 has a miss while cruising at a constant speed mostly at low speeds 25 to 35 mph and low rpms 1500 minus. no check engine comes on. ive had two different dodge service centers look it over and have done the following with no improvement. -both spark plugs and wires replaced -fuel injector flush has been done no improvement and they have no idea whats causing it. they say that until a check engine comes on they wont know what do fix. my concern is that there is no way to know when the check engine light will come on and the problem is very slowly getting worse and is driving me crazy. has anyone experienced the same thing and have figured out what the problem was and more importantly what the fix is. .

From : donstaples

on thu 5 oct 2006 164219 -0400 donstaples dstaples@charter.net wrote even if the sensor shows visible damage that doesnt mean the damage caused it to fail nor does it mean the service person caused the damage. there is no way after the fact you will be able to prove any damage you may possibly find was caused by the service person. this is not csi and this isnt a murder case. but if it will make you feel better to take them to court by all means go for it that is your right. ill look forward to your postings about that adventure. i want to see what happened to the speed sensor by removing it. if there is any visible damage i will take photographs of it. if it is visibly damaged then it is one story. mechanics would see it when they removed the carrier gears which means that they would let me know if they saw it. they did not tell me that. so then they damaged it due to reinstallation. if that so i will take pictures of it. if the speed sensor does not work but shows no signs of damage then i think it is likely still due to what they did but harder to prove. i on thu 5 oct 2006 131959 -0600 larry crites larryacrites@msn.com wrote what proof do you have that they made the sensor fail no proof you wont win in court. you pay. as far as the noise not going away did they say that what they would do would solve that problem or did they do what you told them to do my complaint is not about noise that did not go away it is about the failed speed sensor. as for proof i will check the sensor to see if it bears any signs of damage. winning in civil court requires preponderance of evidence. i larry behold beware believe on 5 oct 2006 085506 -0700 jon jongoddard@gmail.com wrote you know i hate to be the devils advocate but with an attitude like that i bet theres nothing they can do to make you happy short of making service free. well if they did the work and fixed the problem i would be happy. as it stands they did the work replaced all bearings and according to them made proper adjustments and the noise did not go away. well okay sometimes it happens that they fix one thing and it does not help. now when they do this work and also break the speed sensor come on what are the chances of it failing randomly on the same day and say it is not their fault it goes a little too far. having been on both sides of the counter its real freaking simple and reasonable you have to accept the fact that electrical components often do fail without warning and at odd times and they have to accept that if there is any sign of damage to the wiring or the sensor resulting from the work done then you need to get a far better deal than list price + book hours....if not on the house. if youre talking about a dealers service shop and theyve failed exonerate themselves then perhaps you need to lodge a complaint with your local bbb. in my opinion that shows youre far more serious than a small claims suit where youve got a 50/50 shot with the judge. ok. i will do just that. seems easy enough. i .

From : beekeep

on thu 05 oct 2006 203533 gmt beekeep honeybs@radix.net wrote on thu 5 oct 2006 134802 +0000 utc ignoramus4299 ignoramus4299@nospam.4299.invalid wrote so a mechanic did some work on my dodge rear diff. after that a speed sensor on the rear diff failed on the same day. they are now telling me that it is a purely random coincidence that it failed on the sale day as they did work there. asking me $156 to fix it it is a $30 part and a 5 minute job. they do not agree to just fix it for me for free. so i would like to know if there is anything i can do to make their life a little more difficult such as bringing some complaint somewhere that they would have to answer to etc. i could sue in small claims court and probably will win but that means taking time off work. i its a part that fails all the time. i have to replace mine about every two years. usually buy two at time so i have a spare on hand. well sure mine failed also two years ago but how likely is it that it failed due to their repair on the day of their repair vs. failing due to random bad luck on the day of repair i think that they hit it when they were reinstalling gears. if i recall correctly from my previous replacement it sticks into the inside of the gear case. what worries me more is whether pieces from it could damage the gears. i will remove and inspect the speed sensor asap to see if pieces from it are missing. anyway i did file a complaint with the better business bureau that was easy. i .

From : ignoramus4299

on thu 5 oct 2006 104714 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote whats unproven about it there is no one alive today that can testify to observing either creation or evolution. there is no evidence for macro-evolution goo-to-you evolution today. the fossil record the smooth non-eroded no cuts from rivers or creeks sandstone layers outside my window fit creation better than evolution. jesus was a historical figure in israel. there were eyewitnesses to his miracles his life crucifixion and resurrection. he referred to the creation as a fact...and there were witnesses to this also. and do tell us - who witnesed the creation or even christs reserection for that mater. no one actually saw it they only found an open empty tomb. i guess the fact that they havent found any pharaohs in their plundered tombs means that they were christs too. in josh mcdowells book evidence that demands a verdict the point is clarified that it takes but one witness to convict a murderer and there were 5000 to just the ascension. add to that the fact that for a couple centuries being a christian was illegal and punishable by death . . .yet it has endured. murder is punishable by death in this country but people still do it and will continue to do so for many years to come. you see the problem is they have been convinced that they can just confess their sins and ask forgiveness from christ and will still get to go to heaven. how many here would be willing to go to the death for what they believe im trying to make sure there is enough evidence in regards to my life that they kill me on the spot. many - thats why we celibrate veterans day and memorial day every year. -- budd cochran beekeep this post brought to you by the save our national forests by deforestation and the gulibility clinic. .

From : larry crites

how long has it been sitting usually a failure to drive away from cold is a choke adjustment problem. the device hooked to your carb linkage may be a cruise control diaphragm. it sat at least a year before i got it and then sat for another year with maybe 50 miles on it. it is worse than it was when i got it. my brother thought that device was maybe connected to the air conditioner. ill track it down weve got a vacume pump i can pt on it and listen to the sucking. im also going to rebuild the carb. anyway thanks to all ya for the help ken jon wrote ken if youre still having trouble when its warm then im willing to bet youve got a vacuum leak a failed or misadjusted accelerator pump or your carburetor has gummed up. narrowing down potential vacuum leaks one by one is easy enough -- get a good manual if you need to know what and when certain components get vacuum. you should then check to make sure that as soon as you move the throttle linkage a healthy squirt is provided from the accelerator pump. a late reaction might be cured by making sure the linkage is adjusted properly -- no squirt and you need a rebuild. if youve got a 2bbl holley on it oe 2210 and you have both a good accelerator pump squirt and healthy vacuum then it suggests that the transfer ports on the base plate arent being supplied with enough fuel to do their job. i often run across circumstances on older commercial trucks where if they dont move much the base plate gets just enough gum and corrosion in it to let it idle but have a hell of a time getting off idle. this isnt a spray-can carburetor cleaner job -- it needs to sit in a dedicated bucket of the stuff and have a thorough rebuild. maybe one step closer maybe someones lousy armchair diagnosis ... clannorm@yahoo.com wrote ive got this falling apart rv. the problem is when i start it it wont drive untill it has warmed up for 10 minutes. it idles fine and i can give it gas and its fine but if i put it in gear it dies. if i put it in gear and give it no gas and its warm enough it will maybe start to move but the slightest bit of pressure to the gas peddle and it dies. this was even worse in the winter when this was the only thing i had to drive to work for a week. it wouldnt run right till it had been 15 minutes warming up and i live in arkansas where winter mornings are usually around 40 so not real cold. i dont have a book. there is some sort of vacume device with a line running to some sort of big diafram with a linkage to the carb. this appears to not be working. ken .

From : ignoramus4299

ive got this falling apart rv. the problem is when i start it it wont drive untill it has warmed up for 10 minutes. it idles fine and i can give it gas and its fine but if i put it in gear it dies. if i put it in gear and give it no gas and its warm enough it will maybe start to move but the slightest bit of pressure to the gas peddle and it dies. what size engine if its a 318 or 360 the crossover passage in the intake manifold is notorious for plugging solid with carbon this doesnt allow heat to the carburetor which makes for a long warmup period. i dont have a book. there is some sort of vacume device with a line running to some sort of big diafram with a linkage to the carb. this appears to not be working. probably cruise control. .

From : mac davis

on thu 05 oct 2006 093809 -0700 mac davis mac@bajadavis.com wrote on thu 5 oct 2006 134802 +0000 utc ignoramus4299 ignoramus4299@nospam.4299.invalid wrote so a mechanic did some work on my dodge rear diff. after that a speed sensor on the rear diff failed on the same day. they are now telling me that it is a purely random coincidence that it failed on the sale day as they did work there. asking me $156 to fix it it is a $30 part and a 5 minute job. they do not agree to just fix it for me for free. so i would like to know if there is anything i can do to make their life a little more difficult such as bringing some complaint somewhere that they would have to answer to etc. i could sue in small claims court and probably will win but that means taking time off work. i id try for compromise first... like maybe you buying the part and the labor being free... dont know what state youre in but in calif. writing to the state consumer affairs automotive division is very effective... make sure that you document charges payments made etc... i am in illinois. mine is a very simple story actually. i will definitely research if the state ag office has a department like that. i a few years ago they kicked pep boys ass for me.... mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : jon

i never thought id see the day wed need a berlin wall to keep people out. -- budd cochran slightly different. the berlin wall was meant to keep people in. ken .

From : ignoramus4299

totally bored so i was wandering around you tube. used the search typed in dr. hook. ya i know but some of the stuff was pretty cool. anyway ran across a old video baby makes her blue jeans talk wow! id forgotten about that one. if ya havent seen it take a look at the girl in the vid outstanding!! roy thanks for the link. .

From : ignoramus4299

on thu 05 oct 2006 065940 -0500 ray turner rayturner@coastline.org wrote on thu 05 oct 2006 025959 +0000 tom lawrence wrote beekeep summed it up perfectly some time ago when he said think about how differently 9/11 would have turned out had some of the passengers on those planes been armed. extend that to the amish school to columbine to the columbine..... i heard that the police actually killed about half of total. something like they killed 6 out of the 13 dead. can anyone confirm the version that i heard was that the shooting was over before they got there... might not ever know what really happened.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : roy

on thu 5 oct 2006 103524 -0400 donstaples dstaples@charter.net wrote you could probably make their lives a living hell but why for $156 and it probably really was a conincidencespeed sensor on my truck has gone out a couple of times in 8 years and nobody touched them. small claims court isnt freefiling fees time off from work but you have to decide what is worthwhile to you. i would get the filing fee back if i prevail. i so a mechanic did some work on my dodge rear diff. after that a speed sensor on the rear diff failed on the same day. they are now telling me that it is a purely random coincidence that it failed on the sale day as they did work there. asking me $156 to fix it it is a $30 part and a 5 minute job. they do not agree to just fix it for me for free. so i would like to know if there is anything i can do to make their life a little more difficult such as bringing some complaint somewhere that they would have to answer to etc. i could sue in small claims court and probably will win but that means taking time off work. i .

From : donstaples

on thu 5 oct 2006 104040 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote so a mechanic did some work on my dodge rear diff. after that a speed sensor on the rear diff failed on the same day. they are now telling me that it is a purely random coincidence that it failed on the sale day as they did work there. asking me $156 to fix it it is a $30 part and a 5 minute job. they do not agree to just fix it for me for free. so i would like to know if there is anything i can do to make their life a little more difficult such as bringing some complaint somewhere that they would have to answer to etc. i could sue in small claims court and probably will win but that means taking time off work. i if they wont make good on it see the service manager or owner. if no joy well you learned something about the dealer for short money anyway you are dumping it for a chevy anyway so trade it and move on. i did talk to the manager already. as for what i learned about them thats not that valuable i have yet to find an honest mechanic anyway. i will just fix it up with another speed sensor but i would like to write somewhere about them. i .

From : ignoramus24560

one must remember that for a proof to be acceptable to a person the mind of that person must be open to having their preconceptions revised. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams john kunkel wrote irrelevant lets start by assuming the bible is accurate historically and scientifically. assume all you want cite all the websites and literature that you want but the simple fact is there is no acceptable proof. if thats how youre going to look at it then everything in life is assumed. no one can prove or ever will prove the big bang. anyway... most of the bible has been proven historically accurate; it is even used as a historical authority. a lot of the other events cant be proven due to the divine nature of god. for example science cannot prove that jesus turned water into wine because it was a miracle; there simply is no scientific explanation. more later when i have more time... -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : chris thompson

when i came across this webpage check it out. really you just happened to stumble across your own website.... amazing. spammer... i hope you slit your throat on a broken piece of mirror glass. in the meantime complaints to abuse@shaw.ca .

From : ignoramus23806

looks like the speed sensor i have does not match what autozone says it should be. mine has an ear for a bolt to hold it and a gasket around the body that goes into the hole. autozone part has thread and no ear for the bolt. anyone has a good suggestion for a reputable website selling those replacement rear speed sensors perhaps one that would take my vin number i took mine out briefly yesterday and to my further upset saw relatively large 1-2mm metal shavings stuck on it. they gave you the output speed senor in the trans. your looking for the rear axle speed sensor. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. .

From : peter grey

i agree...sorta. i think both need a swift kick. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in on the flip side...i think the majority of under 25 year olds need the military for at least 2 years. too many of these punk kids think they have the world by the tail. a stint in the military might give them a little more respect for everyone. actually its their parents that need a kick in the ass. the kids got the attitude from them... .

From : mac davis

truth is always a christian thing to say. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on fri 6 oct 2006 053815 -0600 budd cochran mr-d150@preciscom spam.net wrote yes it is. funny how you all blame me but refuse to accept responsibility for your own parts in it. go ahead pat yourselves on the back and say to each other how tolerant we are how intolerant he is. -- budd cochran that would an be unchristian thing to say budd... though very close to fact.. mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : ignoramus7272

budd cochran wrote does the fuel line go into the fuel bowl from the passenger side of from the front side passenger side = holley from front = carter. i should hav mentioned it was a holly. i got the kit they said would work and ive found out the model # thanks ken .

From : bob

and did he study prior to taking the test -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels did you pass or fail -- .bob arrived 2006 fxdi red. 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged stolen 11/26/05 in denver 1hd1gel10vy3200010 co license j5822z 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .