Color codes alternator wires
From : ohwell
Q: re fuel mileage it would help to know whether or not its standard or auto 4wd or 2wd.... rear axle ratio would also help. fred i just bought my first dodge diesel so far i like it. i was wondering about tires. i have had discovery at on my 1990 suburban and i was wondering about the discovery atr vs. the stock mitchlen also what kind of fuel mileage should i expect running empty cargo on the interstate. it is a heavy duty version should i increase tire size from the lt245 r75 /16 thanks bill .
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From : bryan
roy wrote so do you work for amtrak in boston ro yup - .
From : tbone
mark bratcher wrote ok while driving my 2000 caravan started doing something odd electrically... i heard a steady ticking sound coming from the steering column area in synch with the ticking the odometer and other dash lights blinked. this went on for about a minute or two then it went away. i had something similar related happen the other day when i tried to start the van but it would not even engage the starter. it would just tick. this also went away after about a minute and then i was able to start the van. anyone know what this might be i do have an after-market alarm system which has been in the vehicle for a couple of years now although it hasnt functioned normally in about a year doesnt always respond unless im almost on top of the van rarely makes a beep sound any more when engaging/disengaging. thanks. inspect the battery cables and all of the ground wires you can find. have the battery tested. check all of the electrical connectors under the hood and under the dash. if nothing else helps try some of these methods http//tinyurl.com/3a2wad -- ken .
From : tbone
jasper towing & pnl mfg. co ltd. jasptow&pnl@townigs.com wrote in tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote in they probably didnt answer because you didnt give enough information. exactly what year and size alt. different years use different color wires but in this case i dont think that it really matters and the field wires should be interchangeable. sorry it is a 77 b-100 1/2 ton tradesman van. i think the alternator is the smaller 65 amp one double grove pulley. does that help i guess i really do not understand why they color code the wires if they are interchangeable and seems i remember something about polarizing the alternator which would im guessing imply they are not they are color coded because they do different things. one is the 12v feed wire and the other is the ground which is controlled by the regulator. if they were the same color it would be near impossible to diagnose a wiring problem with the alternator. the alternator in your vehicle has isolated field windings and as such the wires are interchangeable. if they needed to be connected to a specific terminal the connectors for each terminal would be different and the two wires would only fit one way. isolated had nothing to do with it ignoramus lol once again you show your brilliant intellect and that astonishing single digit iq. polarity is what matters really please explain the polarity on an ac device. now you do know what ac means right!!!!! glad to see youre still around spouting off your stupidity and that its still very easy to bitch slap your ignorant ass into next week lol i do find it funny to watch the stupid and the ignorant pat themselves on the back for the great job that they believe that they have done when in reality ail they have done is screw the pooch and the rest of us either laugh or just feel sorry for them or in this case you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : jasper towing pnl mfg co ltd
ok while driving my 2000 caravan started doing something odd electrically... i heard a steady ticking sound coming from the steering column area in synch with the ticking the odometer and other dash lights blinked. this went on for about a minute or two then it went away. i had something similar related happen the other day when i tried to start the van but it would not even engage the starter. it would just tick. this also went away after about a minute and then i was able to start the van. anyone know what this might be i do have an after-market alarm system which has been in the vehicle for a couple of years now although it hasnt functioned normally in about a year doesnt always respond unless im almost on top of the van rarely makes a beep sound any more when engaging/disengaging. thanks. .
From : bryan
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From : tbone
jasper towing & pnl mfg. co ltd. wrote bryan wrote jasper towing & pnl mfg. co ltd. wrote tbone wrote they probably didnt answer because you didnt give enough information. exactly what year and size alt. different years use different color wires but in this case i dont think that it really matters and the field wires should be interchangeable. bullshit hook em up one way and it charges hook em up the other way and it discharges try it and watch the fucking gauge you ignorant twit see my previous post. if this was a generator with a commutator instead of slip rings reversing the field current would reverse the polarity of the output. an alternator produces ac into the rectifiers. as such it makes no difference which way the field current goes relative to the stator current. my 1977 dodge truck factory service manual does not indicate which way to connect the field. additionally ive connected isolated field alternators both ways and it made zero difference in the alternators performance. bryan have you tried it both ways and watch the alt gauge yes. as i said it made zero difference in the alternators performance. youd have to connect the *output* backwards in order to create the effect you describe. since the negative terminal of the output is common to the alternators case that would be physically difficult to do. and then the ammeter would *always* show discharge even with the engine stopped. the current would be limited by the resistance of the wiring in the charging system the resistance of the alternators stator windings and the forward voltage drop of the alternators rectifiers. as we say in electronics engineering it would let the smoke out. i have and one way the gauge reads to + and the other way it reads to - .
From : jasper towing pnl mfg co ltd
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From : jasper towing pnl mfg co ltd
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From : tbone
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From : ohwell
suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 8/1/2007 1000 am suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 7/31/2007 750 pm just wondering if its possible that it was actually the muffler that was causing the codes and if someone could explain why. twig said he thought it was unlikely that the system could sense that far down the system to throw this code because of a muffler problem. the exhaust system will not cause that code. the check engine light will i fear return. your truck is equipped with an obd ii diagnostic system that performs periodic self tests. after three good self tests the check engine light will turn itself off. thus if the problem was no longer there the light would have self extinguished by now. sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. mike waaaaah! now look youve gone and made me cry! i was hoping though but i know that ive had the code for a lot longer than the seriously rusty muffler. how often does it run these self-tests so youre saying i shouldnt reboot my truck after its fixed i should wait and see if the code goes away on its own jmc either way. if the tech clears the code after the repair and the light doesnt come back on voila! if the repair is made and the light goes off after several days of driving voila again! the self=test isnt performed at each start up. an obdii drive cyle must be completed before the self-test runs... usually a couple or three days of normal driving will do the trick. mike thanks. the light hasnt come back yet ive driven about 40 miles today its been started three times. ill keep an eye on it. worse though i think my engine started knocking! noise is in the right side of the engine block as i face the truck a tickticktick noise at about two ticks per second. i noticed it as i arrived home today. can only hear it at idle. shut the truck off went back out just now about an hour or so after turning the truck off. turned it on no tick. as soon as i revved the engine a little though the tick started again. i suspect it starts when the truck gets warm. its not really loud but can be heard inside the cab when the windows rolled down. knock is serious isnt it i just had the sparks replaced not two months ago. i dont understand why it started up right after an unrelated repair dammit!. how hard is this going to be to fix and is it going to cost a lot is it ok to drive it for short distances until repaired help appreciated! jmc ok before everybody jumps off the deep end lets look listen to the noise. is the ticking variable with the engine rpm or does the ticking remain at a constant frequency regardless of the engine rpm if it is constant regardless of the engine rpm it is likely an evap purge solenoid doing its job. it will make a ticking noise as it recycles fuel vapors back into the engine. if the ticking noise is variable with the engine is it possibly a fuel injector. these little guys are like the water valve in your automatic washer and make a normal ticking sound as they operate. take a long screwdriver and put it against a fuel injector you have eight of them and place your ear on the other end of the screwdriver... is this the noise you are hearing. btw do the screwdriver thing while no body is looking or theyll think youve gone nuts. does the ticking only occur on cold start up and then goes away after the engine is warmed up this could be a small crack in the exhaust manifold that seals itself as the manifold expands with heat. another possibility is that when you last changed the oil a poor quality filter was used that doesnt have an anti drain back valve and what you are hearing are the lifters until they refill with oil. the bottom line is that there are many many things that can make the noise you are talking about... most of em not very serious. an engine that is failing usually does so gradually and has other warning signs so i would not panic just yet. let me know if any of this helps. mike .
From : bryan
why take the chance just go to the dealer not that expensive .
From : aarcuda69062
i can see that. whether he likes it or not it is what it is. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote the field wires should be interchangeable. he didnt like that answer. .
From : tbone
on jul 30 923 pm tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcie...@earthlink.net wrote i have a 2004 dakota that will not blow air hot or cold in the interior. all fuses are ok. can anyone point me in the right direction for the next step. will the blower motor not turn on any setting or will it only run on the max setting if it wont turn at all and youre sure both the fuse and the blower motor relay are good you need to disconnect the blower motor and test it separately. if its bad replace it. if it will run but only on the max setting then your resistor pack is shot and simply needs replacement. thanks for the response tom. the blower motor will not turn on at any setting on the dashboard control. i took the blower motor out of the truck and connected it directly to the battery and it worked. i would assume i could eliminate that as being the problem. as for the resistor pack i am not familiar with what i amlooking for or where it is located and could greatly use the help. thanks .
From : tbone
suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 7/31/2007 750 pm just wondering if its possible that it was actually the muffler that was causing the codes and if someone could explain why. twig said he thought it was unlikely that the system could sense that far down the system to throw this code because of a muffler problem. the exhaust system will not cause that code. the check engine light will i fear return. your truck is equipped with an obd ii diagnostic system that performs periodic self tests. after three good self tests the check engine light will turn itself off. thus if the problem was no longer there the light would have self extinguished by now. sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. mike waaaaah! now look youve gone and made me cry! i was hoping though but i know that ive had the code for a lot longer than the seriously rusty muffler. how often does it run these self-tests so youre saying i shouldnt reboot my truck after its fixed i should wait and see if the code goes away on its own jmc either way. if the tech clears the code after the repair and the light doesnt come back on voila! if the repair is made and the light goes off after several days of driving voila again! the self=test isnt performed at each start up. an obdii drive cyle must be completed before the self-test runs... usually a couple or three days of normal driving will do the trick. mike .
From : ohwell
ohwell ohwell@thatstheusenet.org wrote aarcuda69062 nonelson@sbcglobal.net wrote in tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote the field wires should be interchangeable. he didnt like that answer. nope just being careful dont want to blow something and spend more money if you are wrong. autozone says the red goes closest to the power wire which is still attached to the alternator. it does not make sense they would colorize the wires if there was not a specific terminal to which each goes. if it turns out you are right you have my apologies. as ive explained before; the red wire is 12 volt key on the green wire goes back to the voltage regulator where it is pulled to ground to complete the saturation of the alternator field. since the two wires perform entirely different functions as noted above it makes perfect sense that theyd be different colors. the autozoo diagrams do not specify which terminal gets which color wire their diagrams are simple block diagrams. if it mattered the terminals wouldnt be the same and theyd be marked. as gm did as ford did etc. understanding how the circuit works negates any notions you may have regarding they must be different theres different colored wires. the field circuit is totally isolated thats why its called an isolated field circuit. matters not which terminal gets either color wire. prior to 1970 youd have a point of sorts. .
From : ohwell
suddenly without warning miles exclaimed 7/31/2007 1102 pm jmc wrote waaaaah! now look youve gone and made me cry! i was hoping though but i know that ive had the code for a lot longer than the seriously rusty muffler. how often does it run these self-tests so youre saying i shouldnt reboot my truck after its fixed i should wait and see if the code goes away on its own i had the same problem. i had reset the code as well but it kept coming back after a 2 or 3 days. i had one split hose end and later a plastic manifold where hoses all connected together was cracked. these were located along the frame rail. a bad gas cap can also cause the code. yea the gas cap was the first thing i replaced so i know its not that. the mechanic did a visual inspection of all of the system he could see and he didnt *see* any damage. i know that this doesnt necessarily mean theres no damage. jmc .
From : aarcuda69062
tbone tbonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote in they probably didnt answer because you didnt give enough information. exactly what year and size alt. different years use different color wires but in this case i dont think that it really matters and the field wires should be interchangeable. sorry it is a 77 b-100 1/2 ton tradesman van. i think the alternator is the smaller 65 amp one double grove pulley. does that help i guess i really do not understand why they color code the wires if they are interchangeable and seems i remember something about polarizing the alternator which would im guessing imply they are not .