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From : donquijote1954

Q: r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. welcome to the jungle http//webspawner.com/users/nolionnoproblem .

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From : azwiley1

sounds like all the damn drivers here in az. yesterday i had to lay my bike down to avoid hitting a little b%tch about 17 years old who cut me off. r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. welcome to the jungle http//webspawner.com/users/nolionnoproblem .

From : hachiroku

on mon 13 feb 2006 160604 -0800 donquijote1954 wrote r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. bet he lives in massachusetts and wonders why his insurance costs so much... i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. welcome to the jungle http//webspawner.com/users/nolionnoproblem -- a young girl i know told me i drive like an old man i told her actually i drive like mario andretti. its just that too many other people on the road drive like paul tracy... .

From : mike hunter

a lady was watching tv when a bulletin came on stating a car was driving in the wrong direction on the interstate. her father was coming to her house via that interstate so she called him on his cell phone to warn him. she said dad be careful there is car going the wrong way on the road you are on. he said one car are you kidding there are a whole bunch of them passing me going the wrong way. mike hunt hello 911 this asshole just pulled a really dangerous move and i could swear i saw her swigging from a budweiser bottle. shes going west on route... .

From : tomes

r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. hello 911 this asshole just pulled a really dangerous move and i could swear i saw her swigging from a budweiser bottle. shes going west on route... actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes .

From : doug kanter

actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. .

From : doug kanter

r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. hello 911 this asshole just pulled a really dangerous move and i could swear i saw her swigging from a budweiser bottle. shes going west on route... .

From : rigger

mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt and then we put cell phones in their hands. dennis in nca .

From : mac davis

on fri 17 feb 2006 152738 gmt doug kanter ancientangler@hotmail.com wrote r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. hello 911 this asshole just pulled a really dangerous move and i could swear i saw her swigging from a budweiser bottle. shes going west on route... better than telling them that she cut in front of you making you spill your beer and drop the shells you were reloading with.. *g* mac https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis https//home.comcast.net/mac.davis/woodstuff.htm .

From : doug kanter

a lady was watching tv when a bulletin came on stating a car was driving in the wrong direction on the interstate. her father was coming to her house via that interstate so she called him on his cell phone to warn him. she said dad be careful there is car going the wrong way on the road you are on. he said one car are you kidding there are a whole bunch of them passing me going the wrong way. drum crash! is this an audience or an oil painting -henny youngman .

From : mike hunter

no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes .

From : tomes

actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj .

From : davidj92

tomes wrote if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj the last time i was in nj 1977 i think the first car in the left turn lane went before the cars coming in the opposite direction through lane. the rest in line in the turn lane had to wait for the through lane to clear before making a left turn. caused some unique reactions from the locals when i forgot this custom. also a local company merged with a company in nj and quite a few njersians were transplanted here. took a while for some of them to get over this same habit. davidj92 .

From : tomes

tomes wrote if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj the last time i was in nj 1977 i think the first car in the left turn lane went before the cars coming in the opposite direction through lane. the rest in line in the turn lane had to wait for the through lane to clear before making a left turn. caused some unique reactions from the locals when i forgot this custom. also a local company merged with a company in nj and quite a few njersians were transplanted here. took a while for some of them to get over this same habit. davidj92 yep this is how it works here for a regular stop light with a left turn lane or even at a stop light without a special left turn lane. this is just common sense here in nj from an nj perspective lol. the lights turn green in both directions and the first in the left turn lane easily and without any problem just darts through to make his left turn before the oncoming traffic even has a chance to get within the intersection. easy as cake. i do this everywhere out of nj and never found it to be a problem anywhere else. actually most times if it has a left turn lane it has a green arrow that makes the left turn go in protected mode before oncoming traffic goes green although in rare cases it allows the left turn to go last instead of first. tomes .

From : christopher thompson

mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt and then we put cell phones in their hands. dennis in nca if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. -- -chris 05 ctd 99 durango .

From : mike hunter

what make you think driving is a right let alone a constructional right lol mike hunt mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt thats because driving is a constitutional right envisioned by the founding fathers when they said all men are created equally fit to drive even the mentally confused and prone to wandering... .

From : donquijote1954

venture rider wrote on 13 feb 2006 155915 -0800 donquijote1954 said and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism is this the new american thing now everything is terrorism yep anything that terrorizes another is terrorism particularly if it is intentional and totally preventable for example a lady in l.a. who called 911 over someone pulling a gun on her. i would call this terrorism road terrorism. road rage also road violence road terrorism is the common name for deliberately dangerous and/or violent behaviour under the influence of heightened anger by any motor vehicle operator affecting the safety of one or more other operators or bystanders. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/roadrage .

From : tomes

arc de trioumphe paris. this is on a quiet morning. imagine what this is like during rush hour! our bus driver told us that most insurance companies wont ensure a car that gets in a wreck in this circle. also that buses have the right of way - hit a bus and its always *your* fault. theres an underpass for pedestrians. can you imagine having to walk through that to get to the arc jmc i remember doing the arc circle. my main reaction in the letter i wrote home was - maniacs! all that traffic all those lanes if you call them lanes. i had to go around a couple of times just to get out and that is someone who learned driving in nj lol. actually i thought it was fun grin. tomes .

From : tomes

if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. myth busters had a segment on this comparing the cell phone usage where they made the driver have a real thinking conversation to actual drunk driving. it was a good test and i am one who always does not agree with their methods. they were equally as bad hands-free vs. drunk at the limit. tomes .

From : tomes

on sat 18 feb 2006 004534 gmt tomes askme@here.net found these unused words floating about tomes wrote if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj the last time i was in nj 1977 i think the first car in the left turn lane went before the cars coming in the opposite direction through lane. the rest in line in the turn lane had to wait for the through lane to clear before making a left turn. caused some unique reactions from the locals when i forgot this custom. also a local company merged with a company in nj and quite a few njersians were transplanted here. took a while for some of them to get over this same habit. davidj92 yep this is how it works here for a regular stop light with a left turn lane or even at a stop light without a special left turn lane. this is just common sense here in nj from an nj perspective lol. the lights turn green in both directions and the first in the left turn lane easily and without any problem just darts through to make his left turn before the oncoming traffic even has a chance to get within the intersection. easy as cake. i do this everywhere out of nj and never found it to be a problem anywhere else. actually most times if it has a left turn lane it has a green arrow that makes the left turn go in protected mode before oncoming traffic goes green although in rare cases it allows the left turn to go last instead of first. tomes have fun if you visit cafa land ... if you cause -any- oncoming car to apply its brakes youve made an illegal and ticketable left turn. in nv its quite common for the time of day to have the timing of the left turn arrows move from first to last. the flow is computer synchronized and this permits the most flow in the major direction. one of my big complaints around here is the stupidity of the lights. i wish i had ones as intelligent as yours. i want to see variable timing dependant upon traffic density. i want to see it go to blinking red/yellow when there is no traffic at night in rural areas. tomes who is not holding his breath on this .

From : doug kanter

suddenly without warning doug kanter exclaimed 18-feb-06 414 pm if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. well then we probably shouldnt even be talking to our passengers then huh jmc if you get into a weird situation the passengers usually shut up unless theyre kids in which case you ignore them. .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning tomes exclaimed 17-feb-06 1012 pm actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj theyre called roundabouts here in the uk extremely common. when everybody knows the rules car on the right has right of way for instance they actually work better than traffic lights to keep things flowing. of course this is the uk so that doesnt always work out either. im not sure how your nj rotaries work i know that the two traffic circles i used to go through in pa worked the same as roundabouts just in reverse. im assuming everybody moves the same way around the circle though here its clockwise in the us counterclockwise still dont like them. with the really big ones here which can have more than four exits it can be very confusing on just which lane youre supposed to be in. heres the scariest one i know of http//tinyurl.com/d5dlb and a short video http//www.fotosearch.com/byv203/intp006/ arc de trioumphe paris. this is on a quiet morning. imagine what this is like during rush hour! our bus driver told us that most insurance companies wont ensure a car that gets in a wreck in this circle. also that buses have the right of way - hit a bus and its always *your* fault. theres an underpass for pedestrians. can you imagine having to walk through that to get to the arc jmc .

From : donquijote1954

mike hunter wrote a lady was watching tv when a bulletin came on stating a car was driving in the wrong direction on the interstate. her father was coming to her house via that interstate so she called him on his cell phone to warn him. she said dad be careful there is car going the wrong way on the road you are on. he said one car are you kidding there are a whole bunch of them passing me going the wrong way. oh holly cow he too got a license to kill. .

From : donquijote1954

mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt thats because driving is a constitutional right envisioned by the founding fathers when they said all men are created equally fit to drive even the mentally confused and prone to wandering... .

From : j a mc

on sat 18 feb 2006 004534 gmt tomes askme@here.net found these unused words floating about tomes wrote if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj the last time i was in nj 1977 i think the first car in the left turn lane went before the cars coming in the opposite direction through lane. the rest in line in the turn lane had to wait for the through lane to clear before making a left turn. caused some unique reactions from the locals when i forgot this custom. also a local company merged with a company in nj and quite a few njersians were transplanted here. took a while for some of them to get over this same habit. davidj92 yep this is how it works here for a regular stop light with a left turn lane or even at a stop light without a special left turn lane. this is just common sense here in nj from an nj perspective lol. the lights turn green in both directions and the first in the left turn lane easily and without any problem just darts through to make his left turn before the oncoming traffic even has a chance to get within the intersection. easy as cake. i do this everywhere out of nj and never found it to be a problem anywhere else. actually most times if it has a left turn lane it has a green arrow that makes the left turn go in protected mode before oncoming traffic goes green although in rare cases it allows the left turn to go last instead of first. tomes have fun if you visit cafa land ... if you cause -any- oncoming car to apply its brakes youve made an illegal and ticketable left turn. in nv its quite common for the time of day to have the timing of the left turn arrows move from first to last. the flow is computer synchronized and this permits the most flow in the major direction. .

From : j a mc

on sat 18 feb 2006 081837 +0000 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus found these unused words floating about suddenly without warning tomes exclaimed 17-feb-06 1012 pm actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj theyre called roundabouts here in the uk extremely common. when everybody knows the rules car on the right has right of way for instance they actually work better than traffic lights to keep things flowing. of course this is the uk so that doesnt always work out either. im not sure how your nj rotaries work i know that the two traffic circles i used to go through in pa worked the same as roundabouts just in reverse. im assuming everybody moves the same way around the circle though here its clockwise in the us counterclockwise still dont like them. with the really big ones here which can have more than four exits it can be very confusing on just which lane youre supposed to be in. heres the scariest one i know of http//tinyurl.com/d5dlb and a short video http//www.fotosearch.com/byv203/intp006/ arc de trioumphe paris. this is on a quiet morning. imagine what this is like during rush hour! our bus driver told us that most insurance companies wont ensure a car that gets in a wreck in this circle. also that buses have the right of way - hit a bus and its always *your* fault. theres an underpass for pedestrians. can you imagine having to walk through that to get to the arc jmc france has used to have one very simple rule ... unless signed or a stop sign all traffic coming from the right has the right of way. if you get into an accident and your car is struck from the center of the hood around to the post behind the front right passenger ... you are at fault. used the adt nearly daily for three years g! .

From : bryan

doug kanter opined no. we have the right to travel anywhere we want without some spook asking to see your papers please. there is no legal right to own a vehicle. yes we have the right to travel and driving is a privilege... earned by passing a test. if a person has proven him/herself to be unsafe the privilege can be temporarily suspended or permanently revoked. i believe don was speaking tongue-in-cheek when he said the founding fathers said all men are created equally fit to drive even the mentally confused and prone to wandering. bryan it should be possible to explain physics to a barmaid. -a. einstein .

From : doug kanter

if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning doug kanter exclaimed 18-feb-06 414 pm if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. well then we probably shouldnt even be talking to our passengers then huh jmc .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning j. a. mc. exclaimed 18-feb-06 307 pm on sat 18 feb 2006 081837 +0000 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus found these unused words floating about suddenly without warning tomes exclaimed 17-feb-06 1012 pm actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj theyre called roundabouts here in the uk extremely common. when everybody knows the rules car on the right has right of way for instance they actually work better than traffic lights to keep things flowing. of course this is the uk so that doesnt always work out either. im not sure how your nj rotaries work i know that the two traffic circles i used to go through in pa worked the same as roundabouts just in reverse. im assuming everybody moves the same way around the circle though here its clockwise in the us counterclockwise still dont like them. with the really big ones here which can have more than four exits it can be very confusing on just which lane youre supposed to be in. heres the scariest one i know of http//tinyurl.com/d5dlb and a short video http//www.fotosearch.com/byv203/intp006/ arc de trioumphe paris. this is on a quiet morning. imagine what this is like during rush hour! our bus driver told us that most insurance companies wont ensure a car that gets in a wreck in this circle. also that buses have the right of way - hit a bus and its always *your* fault. theres an underpass for pedestrians. can you imagine having to walk through that to get to the arc jmc france has used to have one very simple rule ... unless signed or a stop sign all traffic coming from the right has the right of way. if you get into an accident and your car is struck from the center of the hood around to the post behind the front right passenger ... you are at fault. used the adt nearly daily for three years g! wow and you lived to tell about it im impressed. it scared the willies outta me and i wasnt even driving! jmc .

From : Annonymous

ancientangler@hotmail.com writes it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. is talking on a cell phone while operating a vehicle any more of a distraction than carrying on a conversation with the passenger sitting next to you in the same car .

From : donquijote1954

rigger wrote mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt and then we put cell phones in their hands. oh thats meant to keep them awake. imagine if the were bored while watching tv in their vehicle... .

From : doug kanter

mike hunter wrote no question about that. more american die in three days in motor vehicle accidents in the us than have been killed fighting for our county in iraq in over three years of war. the number killed in 2005 exceeded 43000 the problem we have in this country is we allow drivers that do not know how top drive to teach others to drive sad. mike hunt thats because driving is a constitutional right envisioned by the founding fathers when they said all men are created equally fit to drive even the mentally confused and prone to wandering... no. we have the right to travel anywhere we want without some spook asking to see your papers please. there is no legal right to own a vehicle. .

From : doug kanter

ancientangler@hotmail.com writes it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. is talking on a cell phone while operating a vehicle any more of a distraction than carrying on a conversation with the passenger sitting next to you in the same car yes. think about it. .

From : bonehenge

on sun 19 feb 2006 003855 gmt doug kanter ancientangler@hotmail.com wrote if you get into a weird situation the passengers usually shut up unless theyre kids in which case you ignore them. just like a good driver can divide attention between a conversation live or phone and the operation of the vehicle. the good driver will also make the proper decision on when its safe to talk. theres a big difference between talking while zipping along the center or right lane of a wide open interstate on a 70f severe clear day and negotiating a mall parking lot on the last saturday before christmas. g my wife cant walk & talk so shes a hazard with or without hands-free. some folks like pilots are actually trained to prioritize tasks and divide attention. flying is first as driving should be communication is towards the bottom of the list. my state outlawed hand held phones. a month after the law went into effect were back to everybody on the phone including the cops. .

From : n5hsr

on sun 19 feb 2006 003855 gmt doug kanter ancientangler@hotmail.com wrote if you get into a weird situation the passengers usually shut up unless theyre kids in which case you ignore them. just like a good driver can divide attention between a conversation live or phone and the operation of the vehicle. the good driver will also make the proper decision on when its safe to talk. theres a big difference between talking while zipping along the center or right lane of a wide open interstate on a 70f severe clear day and negotiating a mall parking lot on the last saturday before christmas. g my wife cant walk & talk so shes a hazard with or without hands-free. some folks like pilots are actually trained to prioritize tasks and divide attention. flying is first as driving should be communication is towards the bottom of the list. my state outlawed hand held phones. a month after the law went into effect were back to everybody on the phone including the cops. and some young punks do believe they own the road. stuck in a 3 mile long trafficjam at the 163d st toll plaza thanks to our governor. the north side toll stations are all set up for open road tolling but the south side ones are half-a$$ed set up. 2 of 4 lanes at 82d st and 2 lanes going through only at 163d. so now all the automatic lanes are closed except for the one posted 5 mph drive through lane. so no one is using the drive through lane but a bunch of people have their rear stuck out in it. so i have an i-pass box and i start manovering out into the sort-of open lane. but not going very fast because i dont have a completely open lane i have barrels on one side and bumpers sticking into the lane on the other so im going about 20 have to slow down for the i-pass lane anyway. well for the last 5 minutes ive been hearing some a$$hole honking his horn most of the time. so who pulls up right behind me as im going through the i-pass lane and honking his horn and flashing his lights mister i must have a problem cause i keep honking thinking maybe if i honk loud enough and flash my lights enough mr corolla will go faster already doing 20 in a 5 mph posted zone i came within an ace of throwing it into park right there in front of him cause i was slowing down anyway going through the lane i usually make it to about 7-8. i figure theyre not going to ticket me for that. he just keeps honking and flashing his lights. then he yelled out the window. i did show him the hawaiian good luck sign and he yelled back something i wont repeat here. i wished him a very warm reception on his eternal destination! well i got though the gate and he nearly ran over me getting past me to go up the 80 off ramp to run smack into a smaller traffic jam at the top of the ramp. should have got his license number. no there wasnt a spot for me to pull over to let him by before the gate i had two places in that lane that were barely wide enough for me to squeeze the corolla past between barrel and bumper. charles of schaumburg .

From : mmc

should be numbers for bimbo applying makeup in rearview mirror and jabbering on cell phone while driving and dumbshit reading paper while driving. r philip dowds wrote ps statistics tell me that i am most likely to be harmed not by either terrorists or global warming but rather by other drivers. so if i wanted to save american lives would my best shot be spending a kerjillion billion dollars on invading iraq or on a nationwide highway safety program yesterday i saw this bumper sticker on a hummer caution driver doesnt give a shit... and soon enough he cut off another car. i wonder if the authorities know about this kind of terrorism of if they too give a shit about it. hello 911 this asshole just pulled a really dangerous move and i could swear i saw her swigging from a budweiser bottle. shes going west on route... actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes .

From : j a mc

on sat 18 feb 2006 162609 +0000 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus found these unused words floating about suddenly without warning j. a. mc. exclaimed 18-feb-06 307 pm on sat 18 feb 2006 081837 +0000 jmc nogroupsspam@nojodibody.homeus found these unused words floating about suddenly without warning tomes exclaimed 17-feb-06 1012 pm actually we have in nj a special phone number exactly for that. *77 star 77 is the aggressive driver hotline specifically for reporting aggressive drivers. tomes if nj still has some of those insane rotary intersections its no wonder there are aggressive drivers. - i wonder if those were a contribution by robert moses during one of his civic engineering hallucinations. yep we still have them lol. i live right near the 3 of them in flemington. at least they have now put up yield signs up in the non-dominant flow directions. i remember when i was a kid the drivers manual said regarding circle rules local custom. if you did not know the local custom it was an adventure indeed. having grew up with them i see them as no problem at all but i need to watch out for those that have less experience with the adventure. there is now a slow moving program to eliminate the large circles some in total some in part. tomes - from the land of the first jughandle nj theyre called roundabouts here in the uk extremely common. when everybody knows the rules car on the right has right of way for instance they actually work better than traffic lights to keep things flowing. of course this is the uk so that doesnt always work out either. im not sure how your nj rotaries work i know that the two traffic circles i used to go through in pa worked the same as roundabouts just in reverse. im assuming everybody moves the same way around the circle though here its clockwise in the us counterclockwise still dont like them. with the really big ones here which can have more than four exits it can be very confusing on just which lane youre supposed to be in. heres the scariest one i know of http//tinyurl.com/d5dlb and a short video http//www.fotosearch.com/byv203/intp006/ arc de trioumphe paris. this is on a quiet morning. imagine what this is like during rush hour! our bus driver told us that most insurance companies wont ensure a car that gets in a wreck in this circle. also that buses have the right of way - hit a bus and its always *your* fault. theres an underpass for pedestrians. can you imagine having to walk through that to get to the arc jmc france has used to have one very simple rule ... unless signed or a stop sign all traffic coming from the right has the right of way. if you get into an accident and your car is struck from the center of the hood around to the post behind the front right passenger ... you are at fault. used the adt nearly daily for three years g! wow and you lived to tell about it im impressed. it scared the willies outta me and i wasnt even driving! when youre young youre invincible! g .

From : tomes

ancientangler@hotmail.com writes it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. is talking on a cell phone while operating a vehicle any more of a distraction than carrying on a conversation with the passenger sitting next to you in the same car yes very much so. tomes .

From : doug kanter

if you ask me they should totally outlaw the use of a cell phone by a motor vehicle operator while the vehicle is in motion...the hands free stuff is a joke. it the hands free thing was shown to be a joke within a month of the law being passed in ny. npr interviewed some researcher from columbia university who did a very simple study. he put people in front of some sort of video simulator which measured reaction time or something and found that even wearing a headset with microphone a normal conversation was enough of a distraction to cause problems. it was significantly worse for women. myth busters had a segment on this comparing the cell phone usage where they made the driver have a real thinking conversation to actual drunk driving. it was a good test and i am one who always does not agree with their methods. they were equally as bad hands-free vs. drunk at the limit. tomes heres something thats related found in the latest scientific american. speech is processed in the left hemisphere of the brain which also handles images from the right eye. native english speakers were easily able to distinguish different blue & green squares when they were placed in their right field of vision. but when the subjects had to simultaneously rehearse verbally an 8-digit number it markedly lowered their ability to differentiate the colored squares. the sudden need for speech borrows computing time from the part of the brain that was studying the colors. .

From : doug kanter

speed trap a specific location in which police wait in concealment hoping to catch unwary motorists speeding. for example a police car might wait behind a bridge or overpass out of sight of approaching motorists and then pull out once they pass. alternatively an officer hiding in a bush or behind a fence might radar passing motorists and radio their license numbers to a partner in a car further down the road. often this type of operation uses remote speed detection devices such as a radar gun to track cars speeds. i always thought a speed trap was a stretch of road where for various reasons most drivers sense of speed was distorted. vague but able to be determined by an inordinate number of speeders being observed. .

From : donquijote1954

larry wrote donquijote1954 nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com wrote larry wrote what the below post fails to realize is that the right to travel and the license to drive a motor vehicle are not the same thing. well everything got a bottom line and so is this... that the prone to wandering is still thriving out there though is part of multi-million dollar industry that puts anyone behind the wheel and everyone at risk. well so is the ticket industry... traffic tickets are big business youre putting the cart before the horse. i and many people i know have never gotten traffic tickets in our lives. dont speed signal before changing lanes feed the meter and follow the few other simple regulations out there and youll be fine. and your post has nothing to do with the right/privilege distinction. i answered before but going 10 mph over the limit is dangerous but reckless driving while on the phone even if slower that posted speed is not funny no it sounds like a speed trap for unsuspecting prey... speed trap a specific location in which police wait in concealment hoping to catch unwary motorists speeding. for example a police car might wait behind a bridge or overpass out of sight of approaching motorists and then pull out once they pass. alternatively an officer hiding in a bush or behind a fence might radar passing motorists and radio their license numbers to a partner in a car further down the road. often this type of operation uses remote speed detection devices such as a radar gun to track cars speeds. .

From : donquijote1954

gene cash wrote -traffic tickets heavily fund most court systems. no tourist taxes do. at least here in florida. i cant speak for other states. you mean only unsuspecting tourists get tickets well anyone can fall for those speed traps where they hand out dozens of tickets even if they are always set up at the same place while notoriously absent from our chaotic freeways/expressways. the act of exceeding an unreasonably low limit is hardly an unusual risk. that means speeding ticket surcharges are pure profit for the insurance industry. in total were talking about 7.5 to 15 billion dollars annually from tickets for government agencies and insurance companies. thats more money than several states take in from all taxes! worse still that total doesnt even include the money that traffic schools attorneys radar-detector manufacturers and scanner producers make. same source above -traffic tickets justify the existence of entire police agencies like state highway patrols. nope. people driving like fuckheads on the interstate justify the existance of the highway patrol. i never see them on the highways at least here in florida where you and i live. so id suggest the word highway in highway patrol is dropped in favor of speed patrol... -traffic tickets are often used to justify police departments budget requests. yup theyre a semi-good metric that the cops arent just eating doughnuts. after the speed traps they can have plenty of leisure eating doughnuts. -traffic tickets are used as an excuse to raise the insurance rates for otherwise safe drivers. youre stupid enough to get a ticket you deserve the results. besides here in florida taking traffic school prevents the insurance company from considering tickets and they dont enforce the only 5 times in your life law which i think is a little strange. thats part of the big business certainly not free or economical. most people though opt for the lawyer where you pay too but at least you dont have to bother. you pay the lawyer and you get away with a clean record. ah the trick is in the law people say. -traffic tickets virtually fund numerous local governments. yup. go speeding down bithlos main road because you cant slow down and youll get a little behavior-modification punishment also known as a ticket. enough morons do this that they keep the local government running for free. speeding tickets are one thing and genuine tickets are the other. regrettably its mostly speeding tickets that feed the hungry lion while the prone to wandering keep jabbing away on the phone. most people drive like twats. as far as im concerned they dont give out enough tickets. do you work for the government by any chance ive had to call the police so theyd ticket the assholes that insist on doing u-turns where its posted on the near median the far median and next to the traffic light no u-turns 3 goddamn large signs and they still do u-turns. ok thats a legitimate ticket. ive had to call the cops where people decide they can just drive right through the local 4-way stop or the traffic light. this one too. ive also had to call the cops where some jerk usually a rice-boy decides he can park taking up two spaces usually inches from my bike. and so is this... but have you called the highway patrol over people passing on the right and dangerously weaving around other vehicles that would get you a ticket in the civilized world i mean europe. ; .

From : mike hunter

it is legal in the us to pass on the right within a designated lane of travel. they do it in england all the time more than anywhere else in europe as well ; mike hunt my bike. and so is this... but have you called the highway patrol over people passing on the right and dangerously weaving around other vehicles that would get you a ticket in the civilized world i mean europe. ; .

From : bill brabender

yes but they drive on the left so the right lane is the passing lane. you wont see many people in the uk passing on the left especially on the freeways. come to canada if you want to see some truly bad driving - it is legal to pass in any lane and even the pavement markings are not law in ontario. bill it is legal in the us to pass on the right within a designated lane of travel. they do it in england all the time more than anywhere else in europe as well ; mike hunt my bike. and so is this... but have you called the highway patrol over people passing on the right and dangerously weaving around other vehicles that would get you a ticket in the civilized world i mean europe. ; .

From : donquijote1954

bill brabender wrote yes but they drive on the left so the right lane is the passing lane. you wont see many people in the uk passing on the left especially on the freeways. come to canada if you want to see some truly bad driving - it is legal to pass in any lane and even the pavement markings are not law in ontario. i think america can draw some comfort from canada and rather keep the situation in england out of the public eye. of course they can always use some peak and say they too pass on the right there. ; .