Case of Oil
From : oregon
Q: in response to oregon s post. i thought everyone should know quick question what do you guys pay for a case 12 quarts of standard motor oil e.g. 10w-30 went to buy a case tonight. stopped at autozone. they wanted $38. either prices have gone way up or i havent paid attention the last few times i bought oil. o. i buy the gallon jugs of 15w40 -- chris .
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From : steve lusardi
roy you are mistaken the api is not rock bottom. wtf are you talking about try following the thread big snip .
From : snoman
abby.normal back.off@nospam.net wrote very true. i am trying this one out for size. this one meaning amsoil be advised; only one of their products carries any sort of approval that being the xl series which carries api approval. api is the rock bottom. amsoil carries no illsac acea or oem approvals. use at your own peril. .
From : user
on oct 7 1258 pm noggs jpatter...@gmail.com wrote hi i have white gas-smelling smoke coming from the valve cover when i remove the oil filler cap. could i be burning coolant and it just smells like this because of the route its taking or am i burning coolant and something else is wrong i am getting a code 13 map sensor vacuum circuit. could this be the cause also how do i reset check engine after making corrections i have driven back and forth several times in the driveway. is that enough to do it i cant tell if i fixed the problems or i just need to be reset. tia i should add that this is an old 89 dak 2.5 that i am trying to get on the road after a couple of years being idle. i recently discovered the previous owner left clear water in the cooling system so i expect to find coolant leaking/burning somewhere. however there is no oil discoloration anywhere and there is no vapor or sweet smell in the exhaust. it does run very rough and i am getting codes 13 map sensor vacuum 22 coolant temp sensor and 23 throttle body temp sensor. i discovered the coolant temp sensor was disconnected. reconnecting did not turn off the code. i checked the connection of the tb temp sensor and even tried turning the connector around. im surprised it fits in either direction but the code still comes up. i
From : aarcuda69062
as i stated earlier i am testing it and a couple friends swear by it. they have been using it for years in the same vehicles and buy ahead on the product. so its not like they bought it spent big money and are embarrassed to say they made the mistake. they are still buying and using it. ive only noticed about 1 mpg increase. im looking at the hassles involved with changing it. i refuse to let anyone touch the general maintenance on any of my vehicles. i do all that myself because i need to have it done right the first time. cross threaded oil pan plugs over filled rear ends transmissions etc. you only experience that crap once before you modify how its done. and to get approved by any approval agency sometimes takes a lot of money and a lot of offerings of free products bribery or greasing the skids so to speak. you can get anything approved if you know how and have the cash - from simple traffic tickets to the bridge to nowhere. abby.normal back.off@nospam.net wrote very true. i am trying this one out for size. this one meaning amsoil be advised; only one of their products carries any sort of approval that being the xl series which carries api approval. api is the rock bottom. amsoil carries no illsac acea or oem approvals. use at your own peril. .
From : mac davis
abby.normal back.off@nospam.net wrote very true. i am trying this one out for size. this one meaning amsoil be advised; only one of their products carries any sort of approval that being the xl series which carries api approval. api is the rock bottom. amsoil carries no illsac acea or oem approvals. use at your own peril. now you will have the cult screaming. .
From : abby normal
on mon 1 oct 2007 073203 -0500 abby.normal back.off@nospam.net wrote very true. i am trying this one out for size. this is the first time for me an synthetics but i also went with someone elses experience with this product. a couple of long time friends have been using this stuff for some time and swear by it. i figure the hassle alone of changing the oil and filter is worth the extra money up front. it generally costs me around $20 for each change and at 3500 miles each that comes to about 7 oil/filter changes at $20 ea equals $140 plus the hassles. $50 for one oil change during the same amount of time with the hassle of just one just simple sense. it may not work but im going to try it. at even 2 of the synthetic oil changes during the same miles is worth it. i use it in the ram & dakota and it seems to help both fuel mileage and heat a little bit.. we change oil about every 15k and change the mobile one filter every 7 or 8k.. where we really noticed a difference especially in towing the rv was in changing to synthetic in the differential.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : beryl
marty stewartson wrote good day all i am looking for input on tires for my 01 ram 2500 quad cab truck with a cummins diesel. i am tired of all the tire web sitessalesmen etc and thought i would ask the group which tires you have had the best luck with. most of my driving is highwayrainsnow sometimes deepsome driving through nevada in the summeretc and pull a car trailer a lot.i hated the oem michelins they were crap in the rain and not much better in the snow. i appreciate all the help i have had on previous issues and thought i would try this one..thanks in advance.... the oem michelins are ltx a/s. they have lousy traction in rain and clog up in snow. the ltx m/s are the tires ive ever had for all around driving. they stick like glue in the snow. theyre expensive but last 60k+ easily. if you drive quite a bit in the snow or off road then the ltx a/ts might be worth a look. the a/ts downfall is more road noise and most likely slightly lower mpg. i also like michelins cross terrain but i dont believe they have them in the higher load ratings. i have them on my durango and take it in the snow every winter. interesting my 07 quad ctd came with bf goodrich rugged trail t/a as stock from in canada. i dont know if i should feel short changed or glad. i wouldnt feel shortchanged. the goodrich is a good tire especially in winter conditions. the tread life isnt as good as the michelins but when your sliding around in the slop somehow treadwear isnt too high on your priority list. ^ mike .
From : roy
in response to steve lusardi s post. i thought everyone should know roy you are mistaken one roy wasnt the one who made the comment big snip in point of fact amsoil no longer has their oil tested as it surpasses the most severe api tests by very wide margins. and i am supposed to believe this rubbish because you and amsoil says so nope!! not gonna happen! if the stuff was that good they would have no problems letting a independent lab test their stuff. the fact that they dont speaks volumes about their product. another big snip -- chris .
From : steve lusardi
on sun 30 sep 2007 033950 gmt oregon nospam@fish.net wrote quick question what do you guys pay for a case 12 quarts of standard motor oil e.g. 10w-30 went to buy a case tonight. stopped at autozone. they wanted $38. either prices have gone way up or i havent paid attention the last few times i bought oil. o. i dont use oil i use 710. its cheaper than oil. oil is 99 cents a qt. and 710 is only 66 cents. beekeep .
From : roy
i have used amsoil years ago on a hot rod kawasaki and it worked very well but if you are running a cummins amsoil is not the plan. frequent oil changes are required to purge the oil of diesel ash which deposits on the cylinder walls and then scraped into the lube oil. there is no question that the lubricity of the amsoil will last a year but it wont keep the bottom end clean where 3500 mile oil changes will. your call. steve very true. i am trying this one out for size. this is the first time for me an synthetics but i also went with someone elses experience with this product. a couple of long time friends have been using this stuff for some time and swear by it. i figure the hassle alone of changing the oil and filter is worth the extra money up front. it generally costs me around $20 for each change and at 3500 miles each that comes to about 7 oil/filter changes at $20 ea equals $140 plus the hassles. $50 for one oil change during the same amount of time with the hassle of just one just simple sense. it may not work but im going to try it. at even 2 of the synthetic oil changes during the same miles is worth it. a discussion of various oil brands their prices characteristics and other opinions about them always reminds of what happens when two guys sit down at the bar drinking beer and begin discussing the merits of various beers. .
From : aarcuda69062
once again i offer you folks a chance to jump or hop on the pats wagon. rabbit your beloved bengals are up for a thumpin monday night. what do ya say gbmfg roy this is a hard one to call. which bengals is gonna show up the team that handled the ravens the first week or the sorry asss that lost to the browns. im going to take the bengals if you give me 21 points. i think that is only fair. denny hmmmm.. you dont want much do ya the pats have been hitting 38 points per game of late so what the hell yer on! thinking about it last year you lost the appetizers dinner drinks desert tip you lost it all. so where would you like to start this year you might want to make it light on yourself.g oh no friggin wc sliders!! that really hurt!!! wtf.... well just go double or nothing on last year. i might as well feed your whole family!! bg denny wow!! a manly bet from the rabbit! im impressed. vbg are you sure you really want to do this i dont want to hear a lot of wailing from ya when the bengals get their ass beat. just stfu and start eating....... since you aint showing up around here i suppose you want a gift certificate to a local eatery on the coast. maybe i could ups you a meatloaf dinner from ruths diner. next best thing to a castle.. hey! we might get there yet. now that sue has decided to go to fl now rather than later. once things settle down and she comes to terms with her dogs situation things should smooth out. i gotta tell ya when all this moving and packing and unpacking and the dog issue is resolved a meatloaf dinner just might be the thing to lessen the stress factor.g looks like this ones a wash. i even bought a sack of alpo for the hound.... denny .
From : trucker z40
i had posted two previous notes concerning a problem with my 2002 diesel which had about 66000 miles when the problem developed. the last note was on aug 25. basically the truck had no pulling power and could hardly move itself. forget about towing. the dealer finally solved the problem by replacing two fuel system pumps. but before the dealer had it figured the root cause was diagnosed by several subscribers to this group. you guys are good! in short the uplift pump began to fail. my understanding this pump located near the engine is used to move the diesel fuel from the tank to the engine injector pump. the injector pump is a high pressure pump which must be lubricated. this lubrication is accomplished by the fuel delivered by the uplift pump. when the uplift pump failed the injector pump was fried burned out. the fix both pumps were replaced but now the uplift pump is installed in the fuel tank. fortunately i had the extended warranty so out of pocket was $100. yup same thing happened to my 02 diesel ram.....and yup i too had the extended warranty! but it was the opposite for me the timing xxxx sometimers just hit me was sticking in the injector pump which caused the lift pump to not register the correct pressure so the dealer replaced that first then the next day when we managed to get the truck back to him he replaced the injector pump....wow my mpg went way up! for about 2 weeks then dropped back down about .7 mpg. .
From : chris thompson
down at the terminal we been using shell advance vsx 4 semi-synthetic specification apisg in about half the trucks. its the best of both worlds. google on shell advance vsx 4 for more info. imho id do a heck of a lotta research before chosing a lubricant. hold the road z-40 .
From : beekeep
i had posted two previous notes concerning a problem with my 2002 diesel which had about 66000 miles when the problem developed. the last note was on aug 25. basically the truck had no pulling power and could hardly move itself. forget about towing. the dealer finally solved the problem by replacing two fuel system pumps. but before the dealer had it figured the root cause was diagnosed by several subscribers to this group. you guys are good! in short the uplift pump began to fail. my understanding this pump located near the engine is used to move the diesel fuel from the tank to the engine injector pump. the injector pump is a high pressure pump which must be lubricated. this lubrication is accomplished by the fuel delivered by the uplift pump. when the uplift pump failed the injector pump was fried burned out. the fix both pumps were replaced but now the uplift pump is installed in the fuel tank. fortunately i had the extended warranty so out of pocket was $100. thanks for the help. .
From : abby normal
roy you are mistaken the api is not rock bottom. for clarity the api american petroleum institute tests are rather comprehensive and these tests are performed on a special test engine where the lubricity of the oil is tested across its utility temperature range and the additive package is also tested for other attributes like particulate suspension and other factors. the api rating is based on the best test passed by the oil. the first letter represents the oils intended usage c for compression ignition engines diesel and s for spark ignition gasoline. the second letter indicates the severity of the test passed like sh or cf. on the other hand the sae test is a viscosity test only against a mean standard similar to the saybolt scale used by machine tool manufacturers. this is where a fixed volume of oil is poured through an orifice of a particular size and is measured in time like 30w. the multi-grade rating indicates the pour time at 0 degrees and at 212 degrees like 10w30 which states that the orifice time at 0 degrees is equivalent to 10w and 212 equivalent to 30w. in point of fact amsoil no longer has their oil tested as it surpasses the most severe api tests by very wide margins. amsoil is a double diester based oil and is fully synthetic using no petroleum. the lubricity of petroleum based oils starts deteriorating around 220 degrees f and amsoil starts to fall off around 350 degrees f. mobil 1 and the like are synthesized petroleum based oils and although superior to pure petroleum oils they are inferior to amsoil in both temperature and lubricity. the real question you need to ask; is this extra performance worth the higher cost this is especially true when contamination is an issue as in a diesel application where oil changes are the only solution and extended usage is not available to offset the higher cost. amsoil has its own limitation though. amsoils typical failure mode is that it tends to gel into little balls that can block oil passages and filters and i am not sure what causes this and it can happen with new oil as well as old. steve abby.normal back.off@nospam.net wrote very true. i am trying this one out for size. this one meaning amsoil be advised; only one of their products carries any sort of approval that being the xl series which carries api approval. api is the rock bottom. amsoil carries no illsac acea or oem approvals. use at your own peril. now you will have the cult screaming. .
From : ace
the 340 was only produced for a small number of years. thinking the run went from 68 to 72. do know the 360 was the 340s replacement. no dodge truck ever came with the 340. highly doubt the military pw even had the 360. if te engine is original then thin k 318. -- more information at http//www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html .
From : abby normal
in response to mike simmons s post. i thought everyone should know i wouldnt feel shortchanged. the goodrich is a good tire especially in winter conditions. the tread life isnt as good as the michelins but when your sliding around in the slop somehow treadwear isnt too high on your priority list. ^ mike i knew there was a reason i live in south ga....lol its gotta be to avoid the cold slippery stuff. yea thats it... -- chris .
From : chris thompson
a discussion of various oil brands their prices characteristics and other opinions about them always reminds of what happens when two guys sit down at the bar drinking beer and begin discussing the merits of various beers. .
From : chris thompson
mike simmons wrote if youve got the a/s on your ram miles rotsa ruck getting around the snow and ice this winter. my truck is like a hog on ice with em. since the a/s tires are new i might get a set of m/s tires and put the a/s in the garage during the winter. i live in az so only need the m/s tires for weekend trips to the snow through the winter. i just hate to through away new tires that are ok on dry pavement which is what i drive on mostly. i hear you! thats why ive put up with the a/s that came on the truck for the last five years. when the snow and ice come infrequently i park the ram and drive something else. i still have a lot of tread left at 65k miles but now that the sidewalls are cracking i can now justify getting rid of em and putting on a set of goodyears. mike .
From : beryl
chris thompson wrote in response to oregon s post. i thought everyone should know quick question what do you guys pay for a case 12 quarts of standard motor oil e.g. 10w-30 went to buy a case tonight. stopped at autozone. they wanted $38. either prices have gone way up or i havent paid attention the last few times i bought oil. o. i buy the gallon jugs of 15w40 one of my disposable lighters ran out of butane but the flints still good. the other one is still about 1/3 full of fuel but no more sparks. so i use one to light the other. .