CODE P 0303
From : Annonymous
Q: ok here is my problem about two weeks ago my 00 4.7 started skipping under load. i figured out it was the catalytic converter. so the day before i changed the converter i get a code p0303 which means cylinder #3 misfire. after i have a new converter put on the truck it runs worse. so now i think the #3 fuel injecter is clogged or bad. any thoughts from the experts on this .
Replies:
From : the sweeneys
v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : jerry
roy wrote pecker@aug.ga wrote evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. what ya gonna replace next spare tire maybe .......... jerry wtf!!!! that is out of character for you. roy its a slow day. jerry .
From : roy
roy wrote pecker@aug.ga wrote evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. what ya gonna replace next spare tire maybe .......... jerry wtf!!!! that is out of character for you. roy its a slow day. jerry i guess so! roy .
From : denny
in the past ive got them covered under 8/80. unless something has changed in the last 4 months. hey mike anything new on the emissions warranty denny v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : Annonymous
on 11 oct 2003 020942 gmt mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell wrote why anyone would think the catalytic convertor is making their engine skip is beyond me the cat convertor is covered by federal emissions standards for around 70000 miles or so ok here is my problem about two weeks ago my 00 4.7 started skipping under load. i figured out it was the catalytic converter hey redneckif you read the post i requested input from experts not trailortrash with iqs under 100! evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. and they are covered for 80k. oh yea k stands for thousands. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : roy
on 11 oct 2003 020942 gmt mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell wrote why anyone would think the catalytic convertor is making their engine skip is beyond me the cat convertor is covered by federal emissions standards for around 70000 miles or so ok here is my problem about two weeks ago my 00 4.7 started skipping under load. i figured out it was the catalytic converter hey redneckif you read the post i requested input from experts not trailortrash with iqs under 100! evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. and they are covered for 80k. oh yea k stands for thousands red is more correct than you were now wasnt he. if a clogged cat caused #3 to spit a code wouldnt ya think the rest of them might skip as well and show a code shit change the engine! try a plug and or wire and be polite. theres a jump ball for a saturday morning.bfg roy .
From : Annonymous
stopjwlbal@epixspam.net writes just placed my order today for an 04 3500 ctd! i have a deal worked both with a trade and without so i can try to sell my truck on my own. i am located near harrisburg pa. heres the details 97 ram 2500 club cab slt lwb 4x4. 5.9l v8/auto. 86500 miles. emerald green/light driftwood w/ gray interior. seats and carpet are perfect. body color application-specific fiberglass steps. new cooper a/t tires. new rotors and calipers last year; brakes are better than new. towing package and camper package. everything works. excellent condition overall and runs great. one owner. all maintenance records available. $13000. i will post current pictures soon when the weather cooperates! if you trade it in youll recapture the sales tax differential. sell it outright and youll lose it and have to pay it. dunno what pa sales tax is but if 6% and they only offer you $10k in trade for it thats $600. the delta between a $600 tax credit vs having to pay it is $1200. you might want to think about that. .
From : Annonymous
1 federal emissions law requires the manufacturer to cover the catalytic convertor cat for 8 years and 80000 miles regardless of number of prior owners. 2 all dodge ram gasoline-powered trucks operated in normal daily use -will- at some point need to have the original factory cat replaced long before 80k miles. with only moderate daily use of 30-40 miles a day your cat will have deteriorated to the point of qualifying for free replacement somewhere around 40-45k miles. brand and blend of fuel may make a slight difference +/- 10k miles. 3 if you own a gasoline-powered dodge ram pickup that has more than 60k miles on it but is less than 8 years old and youve not yet had the cat replaced odds are probably 9010 that it needs to be replaced. 4 early symptoms any one or more a bad rattle-like sound that initially appears to be coming from something in the drivetrain when starting to slowly back up b first-time failure of the rear o2 sensor check-engine light may come on and off intermittently may seem like its fuel-related different gasoline brands sometimes appear to cause the light to come on 50-100 miles after fillup other gasoline brands cause it to go off 50-100 miles after fillup c 1-2 mpg deterioration in your already lousy fuel economy noticeable deterioration in acceleration 5 if youre still within the 8/80 window the cat replacement should be covered 100% -including- the y-pipe and all associated labor. the job is seldom done at the dealership and is almost always sublet to an area muffler shop. however you must take it to the dealer to have it done under warranty. they may or may not replace it with original chryco parts and you have no say in the matter. mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell writes why anyone would think the catalytic convertor is making their engine skip is beyond me the cat convertor is covered by federal emissions standards for around 70000 miles or so ok here is my problem about two weeks ago my 00 4.7 started skipping under load. i figured out it was the catalytic converter a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : redneck tookover hell
you obviously have no concept of reality and that is being generous at best hey redneckif you read the post i requested input from experts not trailortrash with iqs under 100! evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : jerry
pecker@aug.ga wrote evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. since you spent a couple hundred dollars for a new converter and now your truck runs worse it would seem your experience with clogged converters is what is really in question. what ya gonna replace next spare tire maybe .......... jerry .
From : redneck tookover hellredneck tookover hell
if you trade it in youll recapture the sales tax differential. sell it outright and youll lose it and have to pay it. dunno what pa sales tax is but if 6% and they only offer you $10k in trade for it thats $600. that is not true in all states. many states now calculate sales tax on vehicles on the gross sales price not the trade differential price price. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : roy
misconceptions abound. read on please we do sublet the v-10s and some of the dakotas tho. now if the majority of the dealers would follow the lead.....one can only wish i guess. roy denny mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell writes why anyone would think the catalytic convertor is making their engine skip is beyond me the cat convertor is covered by federal emissions standards for around 70000 miles or so ok here is my problem about two weeks ago my 00 4.7 started skipping under load. i figured out it was the catalytic converter a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : roy
pecker@aug.ga wrote evidently youve never experianced a clogged converter. what ya gonna replace next spare tire maybe .......... jerry wtf!!!! that is out of character for you. roy .
From : mike simmons
in the past ive got them covered under 8/80. unless something has changed in the last 4 months. hey mike anything new on the emissions warranty denny #2 the cats still 8/80 afaik. mike ps havent looked real careful at the 04 warranty guidelines tho v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : Annonymous
lol sorry i offenended anyone. but anywho evidently the converter and the missfire code are not relatedbut the converter was clogged and showed symptoms the error code just cioinsidently happened around the sametime as the cat clogging up enough to show symptoms hence it still runs rough. now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug anyone once again sorry to offend this great group. sun 12 oct 2003 010021 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote in the past ive got them covered under 8/80. unless something has changed in the last 4 months. hey mike anything new on the emissions warranty denny v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : nirodac
which he of course would deserve! throwing a 72 yo man to the ground what a punk! from tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net organization earthlink inc. -- http//www.earthlink.net date sat 11 oct 2003 235641 gmt subject re nascar triple header today!!! open season on him for sure... .
From : nirodac
try the injector. clean it first then if that doesnt work replace it. autotap is sending me e-mails about how different problems show up on the obdii systems. one problem was almost exactly like yours clogged injector. apparently a misfiring cylinder causes higher emissions which will cause your cat to fail sooner according to this articleno kidding eh. i can mail you the article if you want it might be to long to post here. let me know if this fixes it. im thinking of buying a obdii scanner package for my laptop and this is one of the providers trying to entice me into buying their product. ray lol sorry i offenended anyone. but anywho evidently the converter and the missfire code are not relatedbut the converter was clogged and showed symptoms the error code just cioinsidently happened around the sametime as the cat clogging up enough to show symptoms hence it still runs rough. now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug anyone once again sorry to offend this great group. sun 12 oct 2003 010021 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote in the past ive got them covered under 8/80. unless something has changed in the last 4 months. hey mike anything new on the emissions warranty denny v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : Annonymous
hey no problem always glad to help. glad to hear that the dog is doing better. i really sucks when they get sick. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yep send me an email thanks denny & t bone took a bit longer than expected for the cash to wire transfer from those swiss bank accounts. but got it ok thanks guys!!!!!!!!!! g hi did you and your dog make it home ok a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : Annonymous
thx ray you can mail that to me at pecker30830@yahoo.com on sun 12 oct 2003 083828 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote try the injector. clean it first then if that doesnt work replace it. autotap is sending me e-mails about how different problems show up on the obdii systems. one problem was almost exactly like yours clogged injector. apparently a misfiring cylinder causes higher emissions which will cause your cat to fail sooner according to this articleno kidding eh. i can mail you the article if you want it might be to long to post here. let me know if this fixes it. im thinking of buying a obdii scanner package for my laptop and this is one of the providers trying to entice me into buying their product. ray lol sorry i offenended anyone. but anywho evidently the converter and the missfire code are not relatedbut the converter was clogged and showed symptoms the error code just cioinsidently happened around the sametime as the cat clogging up enough to show symptoms hence it still runs rough. now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug anyone once again sorry to offend this great group. sun 12 oct 2003 010021 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote in the past ive got them covered under 8/80. unless something has changed in the last 4 months. hey mike anything new on the emissions warranty denny v-10 8.0l gas powered 5 yrs - 50000 why = considered heavy duty by law. .
From : toddd
now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .
From : nirodac
actually there are a number of different ones available depends on what you want out of your scan tool. i sort of like this one cause if i understand the promo correctly you get both a palm and a pc version for the same price. i could be wrong though. some scan tool software is fancy with charts and the choice of digital or analog gauges displayed and even the number of gauges displayed in a gui type environment. some is more simple and basic. prices are adjusted accordingly. the real option you need to look at is. can they read the error codes beyond the federally mandated first 1000 codes in other words the codes specific to a given manufacturer. the first 1000 codes are common across all manufacturers and will usually be all you will need they cover all the way up to 12 cylinder engines. the next thing you need to look at is the interface module. gm and ford have their own proprietary signal coming from the ecu. chrysler and everyone else uses the same one iso. usually for about $50.00 dollars more you can get all three. you cannot plug your computer into the ecu directly. the product at this site covers the extended error codes for ford gm and chrysler but not foreign named vehicles and some big two imported vehicles. please note that i have no connection to this site nor have i every bought anything from them i am interested in their product as i am with scan tools from other vendors. and by the way this site provides a free letter sales tool which just happened to have a description of the other posters engine problem. id like to see some dialog in this ng from other people that have purchased a scan tool and see what they think. i definitely will be getting one i just have decided which one. i still have three years left on my three year auto warranty so im not in a hurry. and the web site is; http//www.autotap.com/ ray i missed the first part of this post. where can i get one of the scan tools you are talking about i see how you got to the ignition coil as the culprit from that article. my mind blanked out that paragraph when i read the final cause of the authors problem. so your right the scan tool would have picked up the problem right at first. i like this model because it comes in two version one for the palm pilot and one for the pc. palms are getting so cheap you could leave it in the glove box as did the writer of that article. thanks ray ray im still gonna get one of those scan tools it would have told me it was the coil not the injector. and its cool too...hehe on tue 14 oct 2003 054230 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote glad to hear you fixed your problem so much for the after market scan tools. ray well turns out it was a bad coil pack and plugs they wanted 178.00 to install...lol. no thanks just give me the parts.on sun 12 oct 2003 141949 gmt toddd darinzo@optonline.net.invalid wrote now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .
From : Annonymous
sorry but im having trouble reading your message. are you trying to run the tranny not trannie with the pan off cant be done you need the fluid. when you say that the tranny shifted into all gears are you meaning by the steering column shifter lever or by engine speed. if it shifted ok by engine speed before you dropped the pan what is the problem. manuals are usually available at your local library. ask for the shop manual for a dodge of this vintage. usually any dodge manual for this year will have a section on the transmission. im probably getting in over my head here did learn how to spell tranny though but my truck has the same transmission and i was interested in the outcome. ray ok first thanx to everyone who responded..........second.........the tranny made no noise at all and shifted freely into all gears but nothing happened no movement no noise no smoke nothing.....i did drop the pan and the fluid looks brand new.......not soupy or smelly..........and has a brand new cork gasket on it.........now the transmission wont shift at all............oh yea...before i dropped the pan and it would shift ok i couldnt push the mh unless it was in neurtral........now what the pan is off and here she sits......
From : nirodac
glad to hear you fixed your problem so much for the after market scan tools. ray well turns out it was a bad coil pack and plugs they wanted 178.00 to install...lol. no thanks just give me the parts.on sun 12 oct 2003 141949 gmt toddd darinzo@optonline.net.invalid wrote now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .
From : nirodac
i see how you got to the ignition coil as the culprit from that article. my mind blanked out that paragraph when i read the final cause of the authors problem. so your right the scan tool would have picked up the problem right at first. i like this model because it comes in two version one for the palm pilot and one for the pc. palms are getting so cheap you could leave it in the glove box as did the writer of that article. thanks ray ray im still gonna get one of those scan tools it would have told me it was the coil not the injector. and its cool too...hehe on tue 14 oct 2003 054230 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote glad to hear you fixed your problem so much for the after market scan tools. ray well turns out it was a bad coil pack and plugs they wanted 178.00 to install...lol. no thanks just give me the parts.on sun 12 oct 2003 141949 gmt toddd darinzo@optonline.net.invalid wrote now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .
From : nirodac
well i dont have first hand experience but if you go to their web site you can see sample displays of both versions. looks like both versions will do exactly the same thing. but im thinking that the display size could be an issue. just how much info can you cram onto that small palm display. reading further it appears that both the palm and the pc versions are sold separately. also you pay more about $100.00 if you want a specific manufacturers error codes. so does that mean the software blocks error codes above 1000 which are specific to a given manufacturer or does it just display the number of the error code blocking would be a downside as the service manual for my rice wagon does give me an explanation of the error codes above 1000 if i can read the error code number. for the extra $100.00 do you just get an description of the error code or an actual explanation of how to fix the problem that generated it also i know you can reset the service engine light but can you force the ecu to do anything else like run the car through a set of diagnostics this page has the comparison between pc and palm. http//www.autotap.com/products.html and again i have no connection with this company i have never purchased anything or received anything from them. ray wonder if there is a differance between the pc and palm versions other than the obvious o/s differance do they both have the same featureson fri 17 oct 2003 172515 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote actually there are a number of different ones available depends on what you want out of your scan tool. i sort of like this one cause if i understand the promo correctly you get both a palm and a pc version for the same price. i could be wrong though. some scan tool software is fancy with charts and the choice of digital or analog gauges displayed and even the number of gauges displayed in a gui type environment. some is more simple and basic. prices are adjusted accordingly. the real option you need to look at is. can they read the error codes beyond the federally mandated first 1000 codes in other words the codes specific to a given manufacturer. the first 1000 codes are common across all manufacturers and will usually be all you will need they cover all the way up to 12 cylinder engines. the next thing you need to look at is the interface module. gm and ford have their own proprietary signal coming from the ecu. chrysler and everyone else uses the same one iso. usually for about $50.00 dollars more you can get all three. you cannot plug your computer into the ecu directly. the product at this site covers the extended error codes for ford gm and chrysler but not foreign named vehicles and some big two imported vehicles. please note that i have no connection to this site nor have i every bought anything from them i am interested in their product as i am with scan tools from other vendors. and by the way this site provides a free letter sales tool which just happened to have a description of the other posters engine problem. id like to see some dialog in this ng from other people that have purchased a scan tool and see what they think. i definitely will be getting one i just have decided which one. i still have three years left on my three year auto warranty so im not in a hurry. and the web site is; http//www.autotap.com/ ray i missed the first part of this post. where can i get one of the scan tools you are talking about i see how you got to the ignition coil as the culprit from that article. my mind blanked out that paragraph when i read the final cause of the authors problem. so your right the scan tool would have picked up the problem right at first. i like this model because it comes in two version one for the palm pilot and one for the pc. palms are getting so cheap you could leave it in the glove box as did the writer of that article. thanks ray ray im still gonna get one of those scan tools it would have told me it was the coil not the injector. and its cool too...hehe on tue 14 oct 2003 054230 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote glad to hear you fixed your problem so much for the after market scan tools. ray well turns out it was a bad coil pack and plugs they wanted 178.00 to install...lol. no thanks just give me the parts.on sun 12 oct 2003 141949 gmt toddd darinzo@optonline.net.invalid wrote now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .