Brakes again!!!
From : patrick prafke
Q: ok i was fishing for anything bad about ceramic brakes on an earlier post. so i might as well ask the group about all brakes then. what are the ups and downs about all the kinds of brakes that are made what should i get. yes i have front anti-lock and real drum. i wish i could get drums on front but thats another story. i do quite a bit of off road and trailer hauling. so all info would be wonderfull. ive used napas best with no problems. roy .
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From : Annonymous
heres a link to a tsb regarding atf 4 use in older dodges; http//dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm jph john smith wrote thanks to those who replied to my posting about removing the transmission line. new problem. fortunately this occured before i dropped the pan. i went to dodge and picked up my atf. i told them i own a 2000 dakota r/t with a 46re transmission. they said that i needed atf+4 so $60 later i leave with 3 gallons of atf+4. i pull the dipstick i know i know i should have done it first and it says fill with atf+ 7176. which is atf+3... i check my dodge service manual and it does indeed say atf+3.... i know that atf+4 is better than atf+3 but i also heard that atf+4 is no longer recommended for atf+3 transmissions. with me price isnt the issue reliability is. so do i..... return the atf+4 and fill with atf+3 or fill with atf+4 i saw the guy punch up the codes into the computer so i know that unless the change was recent and my local dodge dealer didnt update their computer ma mopar wants me to use atf+4. what is the verdict please tell me it is atf+4 so i dont have to use synthetic from some other company. thanks in advance .
From : patrick prafke
anybody have any literature on where the gps antenna is mounted. i can route it onto the roof obviously. but wandered if anyone knows where it goes exactly. tom wise guys need not reply .
From : steve w
on sun 6 feb 2005 134325 -0700 drgn1400@webtv.net brent d wrote there is plenty of training available to the independent shops that is equal to or better than the stuff provided by the oems. the sublet -might- increase the bill but it still wouldnt necessarily be higher than what the bill might have been had the customer gone to the dealership service department instead of the independent. are you claiming that you dont flag any extra time for re-flashing a tcm or pcm if the job does come into -your- dealership then there would be more good independents also no ----------------------------------------------------- how do you judge that your training is better this would be a hard claim to substantiate. remember that aftermarket training on a vehicle is released long after the dealership technicians have fought long and hard to discover manufacturing flaws that are simply given to the independants. people assume that dealer techs have the advantage of tsbs to repair vehicles how false. remember the information provided in the tsbs that you use were discovered primarily by technicians who discovered the issues and provided information to chrysler. this is a claim an independant can not make. this simply means a dealer tech works his ass off for a loss in pay so and independant can receive his information for next to nothing in the form of a tsb. you should be thanking the dealers. as for telling an independant no thank you; i wont do that. they are still a fellow technician and i never turn my back on them. i just hope they remember that a dealer helped them and asked for nothing in return. yes i charge customers for reprograms. it is considered into the module replacement. at the dealer it may only cost an extra .2 hours while you will pay the dealer to have it done at the minimum shop rate of .5 or 1.0. this will make your bill higher. brent ase and gold certified chrysler technician brent just curious. are you related to tbone lol you of all people... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
john smith wrote thanks to those who replied to my posting about removing the transmission line. new problem. fortunately this occured before i dropped the pan. i went to dodge and picked up my atf. i told them i own a 2000 dakota r/t with a 46re transmission. they said that i needed atf+4 so $60 later i leave with 3 gallons of atf+4. i pull the dipstick i know i know i should have done it first and it says fill with atf+ 7176. which is atf+3... i check my dodge service manual and it does indeed say atf+3.... i know that atf+4 is better than atf+3 but i also heard that atf+4 is no longer recommended for atf+3 transmissions. with me price isnt the issue reliability is. so do i..... return the atf+4 and fill with atf+3 or fill with atf+4 i saw the guy punch up the codes into the computer so i know that unless the change was recent and my local dodge dealer didnt update their computer ma mopar wants me to use atf+4. what is the verdict please tell me it is atf+4 so i dont have to use synthetic from some other company. seems i recall there was a tsb out by dc recommending the service departments change all vehicles to atf+4 as they came into the shops. i assume this was if the customer agreed to the change as it wasnt necessary if the customer didnt want it. last time i had my truck serviced 99 cummins auto i asked the service manager about this and he said he would change over if i wish but he recommended i stick with the atf+3 because of price. in addition you can buy atf+3 from several different companies. he also told me once you switch to atf+4 you cannot switch back to atf+3. mike simmons should have the info on this so maybe he can chime in. jerry .
From : patrick prafke
ok not to continue a flame war that has gone on here and wow its going. as far as malpractice and repeat testing at the doctors office. not many people pay attention to the fact that both of those are why the insurance is so high. even with deductables. i dont have incurance on my 4 year old because it is so high. but thats my problem i guess. as for the technisions part of this. i expect more from the doctors as far as tests also why i cant buy a new me if it gets to screwed up. and the only thing humons have done in the last 100000+ years is get taller smarter and older. - well as far as evalution has done. i hope i didnt affend anybody just thaught my half cent would be fun to post. partick -- if your going to do somthing stupid might as well be smart about it!!! you apparently dont know me. i have bitched to doctors lawyers and indian chiefs. i feel one of the nations biggest problems is the fact people are too easy. they know little so they dont bitch enough and would rather accept what is told to them rather than research it and find out they have been duped. the majority of people would rather pay the bill than have a confrontation. on the flip side i praise the people that treat me fairly and honestly. i spread the word on their performance trying to get them more business and such. i have wrote letters to their bosses commending them as well as complaint letters if they screw up. if people would complain/praise more this would be a better world. i call them as i see them. hank masterbitcher - ------------------------------------------------------ i respect that line of thought. its good to see that there are still those out that that repect a job well done yet stand firm when done wrong. this line of thought only works when a person applies it in all aspects of their life as you have not just their vehicle. brent master ase and gold certified chrysler technician .
From : steve w
pats by 14 roy .
From : roy
brent d wrote my post was simply to ask why people are willing to pay twice for repeated care in the doctors office but raise hell like wild cats when a part fails twice on their truck. i think everyone pretty much understands what your post was really about. jerry ------------------------------------------------------ then why didnt you paste the paragraph regarding ruthless service customers that accept being ripped off by other professions without question because my comment pertained to only the section quoted for christs sakes. in case it flew over your head which apparently it did youre a cry baby little troll and have no one fooled. most likely most of the bitching the service manager hears at your place of work is you. jerry .