BioDiesel a fraud?
From : nerdrevenge
Q: the vehicle also passed california emission tests i saw on science channel last week were 2 just out of high school kids converted an old volkswagen diesel van to burn straight used cooking oil after they were told in their auto mechanic class it could not be done. they drove cross country stopping at fast food places to fill up. they only drawback was they has to run regular diesel till the engine warmed up then switched over to cooking oil. they said they got better performance with the cooking oil. -- that intellectual torpor maybe sufficient to earn a job at some disaster prone part of the world like chernobyl or nasa but it wont cut the mustard with me. - professor maximillian arturo .
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From : tbone
on wed 22 jun 2005 005429 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on tue 21 jun 2005 134202 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote are you sure that the sending unit is not sold separately even if they did you would be better off changing the fuel pump while you have it all apart. they dont last forever. while very true it should depend on how many miles and how old the vehicle is. my 89 nissan is still running on its original pump and so is my 97 ram. -- the nissan is a pump only replacement. did the wifes mini van not because it failed but because it was making a buzzing sound. my dodge van has had one replacement. i had an old chrysler k car that the fuel pump failed in as well. the after market pumps seem to last forever. beekeep the nissans pump is easy to get too you dont even have to jack up the car. the dodge is a bit more of a pita. what i should get is a fuel pressure gauge kit since now all of my cars have fi and check them out every now and then. while there is still the chance of a burn out getting me stuck i should be able to detect a failing pump and replace it before it gives up completely. these damn pumps are just too expensive to replace as a general maintenance item. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : badger
how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - okay... i think this hole is deep enough.... tom - whats .03 divided by .02 hint it aint .015. no shit tom like i said a million times its 1.5. i understand what he is saying and was trying to prove a point one that i believe i clearly did. when he thinks he is right regardless of what i say he fights on and here he is doing exactly that. as harry potter would say mischief managed. but just a few posts ago see below you wrote the following how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% which is wrong .
From : trey
sorry trans....but if you go down to staples...im sure theyd be more than happy to sell you a calculator. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% yep 100% correct. - nope if you ask real nice ill give you a hint to where you wnt wrong fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy math any way you try and spin it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
newrvguy wrote 11.8 mpg that sounds correct. hemi is a gas guzzling performance engine i knew a guy that bouhght one then a few days later took it back in exhange for a diesel i thought of doing that but i always thought that once you bought a new truck it was yours. with it being driven off the lot and registered with my plate on it wouldnt it have to be sold back to them for like a 00 loss /font if it did not have enough miles on it and you fussed about it they might. tell them they misrepresented the mpg to you. a friend recently bought a dmax crew cab truck and was looking at dodge cummins trucks but the price chevy was 2 grand cheaper from rebates and the lack of disengaging front axle moved him to a chevy. also the reason i brought it up he was having some issues with getting few dealer installed option installed on it and he finailly got it worked out okay for all parties involved but just before they did the dealer offered to give him his money back on truck even though it had 2000 miles on it because they wanted him happy and it was a reputable dealer. you could try talking to them and see what they say but you will never be happy with that hemi towing a big trailer power of mpg and i would be ready for 8 to 9 mpg towing a big trailer at best. also for what it is worth my
From : trey
how about 3% / 2% = 1.5% just like 3 / 2 = 1.5 not 150. you are truly math impaired sorry gary that would be you. since when does 0.03 / 0.02 = 0.015 it wouldnt but what does this have to do with anything. these two numbers will always = 1.5 when divided this way regardless or the units or the size provided that they are the same iow .0000003 / .0000002 = 1.5 just like 3000000 / 2000000 = 1.5. the reason that it is fuzzy math is because you are playing with the units to make the equation say what you want it too rather than the actual value of 1.5 iow fuzzy math. do the math boy and stop making an ass of yourself i did and the answer is always 1.5 and btw thanks for proving my point on two levels. 1. you dont stop posting when you think that you are right 2. this really is nothing but fuzzy math. care to try again i dont have to try again you just made my point far my forcefully than i ever could have ! thanks for playing chump ! back to name calling i see. how did max put it oh yea the first sign of a losing argument. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
sorry gary but i never said that it could. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving and you have no understanding that a torque converter cannot create torque iow you have no valid reply. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving not done responding just post something with substance and ill shoot it down again gary is full of shit here and so are you or are you just bored either way he stopped responding which is what he usually does when he realizes he is wrong so this thread should be just about done. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wow musta got out the book. if thats the case keep reading and youll see where gary is correct in what hes been telling you. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the impeller is connected to the engine actually part of the tc housing while the turbine and stator are each on their own shafts and go to the transmission. the stator shaft is held in a fixed position while the turbine shaft drives the trans. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you know the difference great then tell us which one is attached to what shaft. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i know the difference but said the wrong name get over it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message no you need one in both sentence structure and transmission theory it seems. this from the same guy who didnt know the difference between an impeller and a stator .
From : tbone
only in your tiny immature mind. now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the tc is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. now i dont want to hear how it is done differently just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change. red herring alert !!!!! whoopwhoopwhoop !!!!!!!!! where exactly did i say it was different if you do not think that it is different then why did you bring up the torque converter at all sounds like backspin to me. for that matter where was the gear reduction ever mentioned except by you the whole point of this argument has to do with gear reduction gary please follow along. no my original had to do with the transmission producing torque please go back and re-read my first response my entire reply was based on the erroneous statement specifically the last 11 words of the following from snoman we are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason why much earlier in the thread i stated to regear the truck because though the towed mileage may be short to ramp the stress of the ramp can be high and a tranny can realy heat up fast in a heavy stall and deeper gears do two things the tranny has to product less torque to move the load he said that the tranny produces torque actually he said products but well let that pass since ive already told him he needs to be precise in his wording i said no the transmission does not produce torque but the converter changes high-rpm/low torque output of the engine to lower-rpm/higher-torque output wtf does this even mean gary. like i said multiple times the transmission does this as well in its lower gears so what exactly is your point here that a transmission or torque converter cannot on its own produce torque power torque at a given spped is produced in the engine the converter changes the speed/torque ratio the converter cannot produce torque only change the relationship between input speed/torque and output speed/torque no free lunch in other words nowhere did he or i mention gear ratio he said once more since you have problems comprehending things that the tranny has to produce less torque sorry gary but you really are not very good at spin. dont try to change the subject to some garbage about gear ratios. you did say that the tc converts from a high rpm to a lower rpm and increases torque. a transmission does the same thing just by a different method. maybe he meant to say has to provide less torque which is correct. what part of gear ratio in relation to first second third and fourth gear plus reverse is so hard for you to understand the tranny god will you folks grow up and call it a transmission fer chrissakes ! cannot produce torque.......it can convert it in the converter or it can change ratios between input and output shafts and thus convert hi-r/lo-t input to low-r/hi-t output but it cannot produce torque only a power source such as the engine can do that where exactly are you trying to spin this you keep talking about the tc but who cares what exactly does the tc have to do with the topic at hand do you actually know where the tc gets its name from perhaps you should go and look it up. perhaps you should look up produce as in create or generate or maybe youll hand me more ammo stick the gun on your foot and invite me to pull the trigger for you .
From : trey
no!!!!! - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the only ammo you are getting is being generated in your own mind. first you say that a transmission cannot produce torque and then proceed to prove that it can lol. hey i love a good fight as much as the next guy but please for the sake of all us spectators even those of us that occasionally throw an empty beer into the ring can you guys please start trimming your posts do you know how annoying it is to scroll down through quote after quote after quote just to get to the i know you are but what am i meat of the post cmon... think about the fans a little bit will ya can we kill the top poasters furst -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .
From : jem
the engine stalls sometimes & shuts off ive checked for trash & i use premium fuel .
From : tbone
nope are you enjoying this as much as i am does tbone ever shut up and just let things go when he is wrong stay tuned.... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. only in your tiny immature mind. now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the tc is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. now i dont want to hear how it is done differently just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change. red herring alert !!!!! whoopwhoopwhoop !!!!!!!!! whe
From : badger
tbone wrote from what i have heard not all recyclers pay for the waste oil many actually charge to take it and the restaurants really have no choice but to pay since you cant just throw it in the trash. if they have a way to get rid of it for free why not. perhaps you could make a deal with them to pick it up on call or more often than there current recycler so that they dont have to store it. that alone would be worth something to many restaurants. i would suggest that before anyone wastes money on one of these kits that they do some research and find a fairly reliable source of waste oil first. a very close family member is part owner of three local burger kings here in ventura. yes they do get paid for the waste oil but its really not that much. with the positive press youd get for helping with the environment and helping keep us slightly less dependent on foreign oil i would think they would jump at the chance. ill see. ;- i would suspect that with the high volume of oil that a bk uses it would be worth it for them to pick it up in those cases. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : jeff mayner
spence via carkb.com wrote snoman i agree with what you said about the front hubs! would the 4 wheel stay engaged even though the bearings were dried out i have done some research on this vehicle and sounds like some type of vacuum system engages the 4 wheel drive. there is not manual hubs on the outside as with the other older 4 wheel drives i have had or worked on in the past. there is 187000 miles on the motor which is a 318 and it runs really well without a miss at idle or acceleration. i brought it home yesterday and found some type of drive gear about the size of an outer bearing in the floorboard rapped in a towel. he told me on the phone he had other parts to give me that i have not yet gotten. thanks for your response spencer m. -- message posted via carkb.com http//www.carkb.com/uwe/forums.aspx/dodge-truck/200506/1 chysler used a vacum operated disconnect on front axle that you need to check its operation. the front axle ujoints will aways turn but the differentail will disconnect when it 2wd. if disconnected you will be able to spin front drive shaft by hand when truck is in 2wd -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-1985-ramcharger-4x4-debate-ftopict125093.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=609950 .
From : donstaples
bite me - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i know the difference but said the wrong name prove it .
From : stephen harding
does tbone ever shut up and just let things go when he is wrong stay tuned.... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. only in your tiny immature mind. now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the tc is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. now i dont want to hear how it is done differently just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change. red herring alert !!!!! whoopwhoopwhoop !!!!!!!!! where exactly did i say it was different if you do not think that it is different then why did you bring up the torque converter at all sounds like backspin to me. for that matter where was the gear reduction ever mentioned except by you the whole point of this argument has to do with gear reduction gary please follow along. no my original had to do with the transmission producing torque please go back and re-read my first response i know what your original response was and that is why i called you an ass since you are arguing nothing more than semantics and is now becomming circular as well my entire reply was based on the erroneous statement specifically the last 11 words of the following from snoman we are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason why much earlier in the thread i stated to regear the truck because though the towed mileage may be short to ramp the stress of the ramp can be high and a tranny can realy heat up fast in a heavy stall and deeper gears do two things the tranny has to product less torque to move the load he said that the tranny produces torque actually he said products but well let that pass since ive already told him he needs to be precise in his wording i said no the transmission does not produce torque but the converter changes high-rpm/low torque output of the engine to lower-rpm/higher-torque output wtf does this even mean gary. like i said multiple times the transmission does this as well in its lower gears so what exactly is your point here that a transmission or torque converter cannot on its own produce torque ok here is a quick question for you. if more torque is comming out of a unit than is going in is it not producing torque and if not what exactly is it doing now before you try to use the term converting remember that an engine does nothing more than convert liquid fuel into heat and mechanical energy so that argument will not hold up. power torque at a given spped is produced in the engine true. the converter changes the speed/torque ratio yes it does just like the transmission but what does this have to do with anything the converter cannot produce torque only change the relationship between input speed/torque and output speed/torque but by doing that you are producing more torque at the cost of rpm so by your own definition a trasnsmission can produce torque or at least produce more torque. remember gary produce and create are two different words. no free lunch in other words there is never a free lunch. at least on this we can agree. nowhere did he or i mention gear ratio he said once more since you have problems comprehending things that the tranny has to produce less torque sorry gary but you really are not very good at spin. dont try to change the subject to some garbage about gear ratios. you did say that the tc converts from a high rpm to a lower rpm and increases torque. a transmission does the same thing just by a different method. maybe he meant to say has to provide less torque which is correct. what part of gear ratio in relation to first second third and fourth gear plus reverse is so hard for you to understand now you have spun so fast that you have lost me. what exactly are you asking me the tranny god will you folks grow up and call it a transmission fer chrissakes ! cannot produce torque.......it can convert it in the converter or it can change ratios between input and output shafts and thus convert hi-r/lo-t input to low-r/hi-t output but it cannot produce torque only a power source such as the engine can do that where exactly are you trying to spin this you keep talking about the tc but who cares what exactly does the tc have to do with the topic at hand do you actually know where the tc gets its name from perhaps you should go and look it up. perhaps you should look up produce as in create or generate create is only one definition of produce. another definition happens to be to bring forth http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/produce which is exactly what the tc and transmission do as far as torque goes. or maybe youll hand me more ammo stick the gun on your foot and invite me to pull the trigger
From : jeff mayner
the pointer and magnetic base trick worked perfectly. i took measurements removed the wheel installed the pointer and then made the necessary relative adjustments. the van drives perfectly no pulling no wander etc. im not even going to take it to a shop for any fine-tuning as theres no way they could improve on the driveability and the current settings should minimize tire wear. id recommend this method to anyone who wants to try a do-it-yourself alignment. best regards martin martin wrote ok i did the homebrew alignment last night after also replacing two idler arms and putting the best two tires on front. btw thank-you dan saitz for emailing to me the alignment specs for my van! first i used my 4 box-beam level to locate a level parking lot. had to go to a church about a block from the house. on the way home i took the van up to about 50 mph on several smooth roads. it pulled very strongly to the left and i thought i could hear some scrubbing from the tires. on the driveway at home i removed the right front wheel and loosened the two mounting bolts on the upper a-frame. these bolts ride in slotted holes in the vehicle frame so that the front and rear mounting points can be separately adjusted by pulling/pushing toward or away from the vehicle centerline. so you adjust caster and camber simultaneously. i pulled the upper a-frame all the way to the outside stops. this would result in maximum positive camber top of tire leaning outward and an unknown but hopefully small amount of caster. then i slightly snugged the front a-frame bolt to hold it in place and pushed the rear mount toward the vehicle centerline by a calibrated eyeball amount to increase the caster. then i slightly snugged the rear bolt loosened the front bolt and pushed the front mount of the a-frame toward the centerline by half of the calibrated eyeball amount. my idea here was to achieve a net reduction from max camber while preserving half of the added caster. i then repeated the procedure on the left side re-installed the wheels grabbed a flashlight and headed to my level parking lot for some measurements. i noticed an immediate improvement in handling. the pulling seemed to be gone though it was hard to tell at 30 mph on bad roads. there did seem to be a lot of wandering though. with the help of my girlfriend i made camber measurements straight forward and turning to the stops maybe around 45 degrees on both sides. by having her steady the vertical 4 level against the fender while i used the flashlight to watch the bubble and scoot the other end around on the ground we were able to come up with a reference that was plumb at least in the plane perpendicular to the vehicle and within about two inches of the wheel. i made distance measurements from the vertical to the rim at top and bottom to calculate actual camber. i calculated camber of +1.6 degrees on the right and +1.2 degrees on the left. the tops of my tires were still leaning slightly out. the caster calculations were more problematic because of measurement uncertainty. when the wheel was turned this resulted in fender obscuration of the point where i wanted to set the level. so this measurement distance was several inches further away probably adding error. i was however consistent in seeing a decrease in positive camber top of wheel tilting relatively inward of both wheels when they were on the outside of a turn. this decrease was maybe 0.6 degree on one side and 1.0 degree on the other side. so i felt i at least had achieved positive caster. everyone says that caster is a handling factor but not a wear factor so i figured id fine-tune this by road testing. next we took several toe-in measurements and found the wheels to be toed out by about 1/4. i drove back home tools and jack were still on the driveway. i adjusted the toe to zero by shortening the tie rod on the left side remembering the earlier drastic left pull i was thinking about centering the steering wheel. time for a road test - and the van drove like a dream. no pull all the way to 65 mph and the wandering probably due to the toe-out was also gone. you could take your hands off the wheel and it went perfectly straight. and the wheel was centered. then i made a mistake. thinking about the tire wear due to the excess positive camber particularly on the right i decided to make a small change and take another measurement. since decreasing right camber would supposedly make the vehicle pull a little to the left i thought id simultaneously decrease the caster on that same wheel several references indicate that a vehicle pulls to the side with increased camber or decreased caster to compensate. well that was just too many variables to deal with when its after midnight and the upper a-frame is free to move in two dimensions at once. my next road test had the vehicle drifting noticeably to th
From : nerdrevenge
only in your tiny immature mind. now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the tc is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. now i dont want to hear how it is done differently just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change. red herring alert !!!!! whoopwhoopwhoop !!!!!!!!! where exactly did i say it was different if you do not think that it is different then why did you bring up the torque converter at all sounds like backspin to me. for that matter where was the gear reduction ever mentioned except by you the whole point of this argument has to do with gear reduction gary please follow along. no my original had to do with the transmission producing torque please go back and re-read my first response i know what your original response was and that is why i called you an ass since you are arguing nothing more than semantics and is now becomming circular as well my entire reply was based on the erroneous statement specifically the last 11 words of the following from snoman we are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason why much earlier in the thread i stated to regear the truck because though the towed mileage may be short to ramp the stress of the ramp can be high and a tranny can realy heat up fast in a heavy stall and deeper gears do two things the tranny has to product less torque to move the load he said that the tranny produces torque actually he said products but well let that pass since ive already told him he needs to be precise in his wording i said no the transmission does not produce torque but the converter changes high-rpm/low torque output of the engine to lower-rpm/higher-torque output wtf does this even mean gary. like i said multiple times the transmission does this as well in its lower gears so what exactly is your point here that a transmission or torque converter cannot on its own produce torque ok here is a quick question for you. if more torque is comming out of a unit than is going in is it not producing torque and if not what exactly is it doing now before you try to use the term converting remember that an engine does nothing more than convert liquid fuel into heat and mechanical energy so that argument will not hold up. power torque at a given spped is produced in the engine true. the converter changes the speed/torque ratio yes it does just like the transmission but what does this have to do with anything the converter cannot produce torque only change the relationship between input speed/torque and output speed/torque but by doing that you are producing more torque at the cost of rpm so by your own definition a trasnsmission can produce torque or at least produce more torque. remember gary produce and create are two different words. no free lunch in other words there is never a free lunch. at least on this we can agree. nowhere did he or i mention gear ratio he said once more since you have problems comprehending things that the tranny has to produce less torque sorry gary but you really are not very good at spin. dont try to change the subject to some garbage about gear ratios. you did say that the tc converts from a high rpm to a lower rpm and increases torque. a transmission does the same thing just by a different method. maybe he meant to say has to provide less torque which is correct. what part of gear ratio in relation to first second third and fourth gear plus reverse is so hard for you to understand now you have spun so fast that you have lost me. what exactly are you asking me the tranny god will you folks grow up and call it a transmission fer chrissakes ! cannot produce torque.......it can convert it in the converter or it can change ratios between input and output shafts and thus convert hi-r/lo-t input to low-r/hi-t output but it cannot produce torque only a power source such as the engine can do that where exactly are you trying to spin this you keep talking about the tc but who cares what exactly does the tc have to do with the topic at hand do you actually know where the tc gets its name from perhaps you should go and look it up. perhaps you should look up produce as in create or generate create is only one definition of produce. another definition happens to be to bring forth http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/produce which is exactly what the tc and transmission do as far as torque goes. or maybe youll hand me more ammo stick the gun on your foot and invite me to pull the trigger for you the only ammo you are getting is being generated in your own mind. first you say that a transmission cannot produce torque and then proceed to prove that it can lol. -- if at first you dont succeed youre
From : stephen harding
transurgeon wrote the transmission cannot and does not produce torque please try to be precise in your explanations actuallt they do they produce more torque at a reduced rpm by mulitplication through gear and stall ratio so it is producing a high torque output at a lower rpm than is possoible without. actually they do not must you always be an asshole while it does not produce torque it does deliver it to the rest of the drive train. changing the gear ratio like he said will reduce the amount of torque the transmission will have to deliver so what he said is still valid. what is not valid is the ridicules gearing he recommends for what amounts to not that much work and the way it will kill the trucks mileage for little benefit. the converter think about the name takes higher rpm lower torque input and converts it to lower rpm higher torque output which is e x a c t l y what the transmission does just by a different method. btw i hope that you do realize that as the turbine reaches the stator speed the torque multiplication is gone sort of like the final gear ration of 1 to 1 in non-overdrive transmissions. both the torque converter and transmission are nothing more than torque transmission and modification devices. jesus mary joseph all 12 apostles and pontius f*cking pilate you are a dense asshole nice language little angry biy. first off the realtionship your are referring to is berween turbine and impeller not stator my mistake wrong name but the relationship still holds. and by the way braniac the turbine can only reach about 94% of impeller speed and even there any torque multiplication is gone and since just about all factory torque converters are locking now your 94% number is no longer true. the transmisison cannot produce any torque but the torque converter does make the above conversion; hence the name torque converter lol what an idiot. please explain exactly how the tc makes torque. the fact is gary that the only thing that makes torque is the engine so now you are as wrong as you claim snoman to be lol! you need a lesson in reading comprehension bonehead no you need one in both sentence structure and transmission theory it seems. the torque converter makes the above conversion refres to the statement in the preceeding paragraph namely the converter think about the name takes higher rpm lower torque input and converts it to lower rpm higher torque output which is e x a c t l y what the transmission does in first and second gear asshole which makes you contrast between the transmission and the tc as far as torque completely meaningless and as usual incorrect. hell even in reverse the transmission reduces rmp and increases torque while reversing the direction. you may know how to rebuild a transmission but you seem to be intent on proving just how little you really know about them. god damn it you are one stupid fuck do you realize how easy it is to disembowel your ass over and over again only in your tiny immature mind. now please explain exactly how the torque increase from the tc is any different than the torque increase from the transmission in its lower gears. now i dont want to hear how it is done differently just how the result is in any way different and try to keep the language on an adult level for a change. red herring alert !!!!! whoopwhoopwhoop !!!!!!!!! where exactly did i say it was different for that matter where was the gear reduction ever mentioned except by you my entire reply was based on the erroneous statement specifically the last 11 words of the following from snoman we are actually in partial agreement here but this is also the reason why much earlier in the thread i stated to regear the truck because though the towed mileage may be short to ramp the stress of the ramp can be high and a tranny can realy heat up fast in a heavy stall and deeper gears do two things the tranny has to product less torque to move the load he said that the tranny produces torque actually he said products but well let that pass since ive already told him he needs to be precise in his wording i said no the transmission does not produce torque but the converter changes high-rpm/low torque output of the engine to lower-rpm/higher-torque output nowhere did he or i mention gear ratio he said once more since you have problems comprehending things that the tranny has to produce less torque the tranny god will you folks grow up and call it a transmission fer chrissakes ! cannot produce torque.......it can convert it in the converter or it can change ratios between input and output shafts and thus convert hi-r/lo-t input to low-r/hi-t output but it cannot produce torque only a power source such as the engine can do that now study up there will be a test in the morning which will count a