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From : justme

Q: uhh...common sense here bud. any truck will spin the tires on a wet road. it doesnt take a dragster of a truck to do that! no shit you missed the point but thats okay. .

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From : tbone

driving down the highway today at about 70mph felt a bump and my tranny came out of od. now it appears i have no 1st gearand no od. ideas sounds like the transmission has gone into the limp mode. .

From : nosey

justme wrote cmon maxy.........lets play some more.........im just getting warmed up. hehehehe maybe ill track you down and run your ass over with my big bad dodge........if it can make that far. yeah.......thats right im gonna track you down you wuss. some people are just thick-headed. kinda like bowling balls. .

From : ignoramus7020

2002 1-ton dually usually after engine is warm engine will be running fine in fourth or fifth then just dieshifting up or down will usually restart immediately or turning key off then back on quickly will restart does it more frequently when pulling a load or climbing a hill any help will be greatly appreciated .

From : max dodge

the ecm programming most likely sweet. is this something i could get reprogrammed at a tranny shop or is this a dealer only issue -- nathan w. collier http//inlinediesel.com http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com .

From : mac davis

not all aftermarket parts are bad. find a body shop that will guarantee their work and use parts at or above factory specifications this way if the parts dont look right or hold up as expected you can make them redo the work. most good body shops have a reputation that they like to maintain and dont like redoing work so they use the best parts that they can within the insurance companies specifications. it is either that or buy a factory replacement part if still available and give it to the body shop to paint. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving arhhggg!!!! i scratched up the front bumber on my 03 ram 1500. truck has the sport appearance package with color matched bumber with driving lights. cannot repair the lower part of the bumber lower spoiler; due to its texture the body shop cannot match it. insurance company wants to replace with aftermarket bumper. asking for recommendations or advise as to the best aftermarket bumper. or should i get one of those bumber covers like the ones ive seen in the styling concepts catalog any suggestions and/or opinions will be appreciated. randy 03 dodge ram 1500 slt reg cab/short box hemi 20 wheels......... my sport truck .

From : denny

most likely its the cruise control line. try your cruise control. if it doesnt work thats why. writes i just replaced a pretty bad battery. it had been leaking a bit of acid. a small amount dripped onto a very small diameter vacuum line that runs under the battery and connects to a silver can. it is not the chacoal canister which is located elsewhere and its about 1/3 that size. the other end of the line runs up underneath the air cleaner somewhere. the battery acid ate a hole in the line. i do not notice any problems everything works engine runs fine and no engine light to indicate a code. guess i could splice it or run a new line but was curious what this line might be. .

From : roy

on wed 13 jul 2005 181956 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote cant wait for this one please explain in detail how and in what manner the weight will change and how this will not affect mass. because weight is measurement of a force acting on that mass gravity and is influenced by both the density of that mass and the mass of things around it. while you may not have affected the mass you did affect the density which will affect the weight. youve got x weight of co2 in the original container compressed in a cylinder high density more weight. you simply transfer it to a larger container which reduces the density and the weight. if this co2 were instead he it would still have a weight in compressed or liquid form but when allowed to expand back into a gas it would have no weight at all and actually carry your balloon away and yet still have the same mass it always did. you have seen a blimp right what a fuckin idiot! helium has no weight the only reason the helium filled balloon would rise is the fact an equal amount of helium is lighter than the surrounding atmosphere it is displacing. lol while true it still doesnt change the fact that helium has no weight. it does have mass and it also has an atomic weight but as far as actual weight goes it has n o n e. http//education.jlab.org/itselemental/ele002.html read the third paragraph where it says that helium is not gravitationally bound to the earth. why do you think that is does a hot air balloon weigh anything not while it is rising or did the term lighter than air get by you. does it have mass yep does it weigh anything nope at least not according to any earth bound scale. remember weight is a force and it is being canceled out by the denser air around it. the only reason a hot air balloon rises is the fact the air contained in the envelope is lighter less dense than the surrounding atmosphere it displaces. the air in the envelope loses density when it is heated. gee i wonder why they are called hot air balloons which is exactly what i said about weight vs mass and density. reduce the density and you reduce the weight. i believe that i also mentioned that the density was also in relation to the density of objects around it like maybe the air itself. funny how you deleted that away. i hold a commercial pilots license and have for well over 30 years with thousands of hours in aircraft ranging from hang gliders to light/medium weight twins including ultralights and sailplanes in between. please do school me on air density and how it affects aircraft you fuckin hick... now now just because you are wrong is no reason to get angry. with what you seem to know i really hope you only fly cargo and only over open areas. this has nothing to do with aircraft but everything to do with the weigh of gasses or lack of it relative to the weight of the same material in a compressed or liquid form. blimps and hot air balloons fall into the category of lighter than air aircraft. they do indeed have weight which is supported by the pressure of the air surrounding the gas filled envelope. which means that they have no weight in respect to the air around them. the gas in the envelope does indeed have weight and therefore mass it just happens to weigh less than the equal amount of the atmosphere it displaces the gas does have mass but unless it has enough density for gravity to pull it toward the earth it has no weight. helium does not have enough density or atomic weight for the force of gravity on this planet to hold it down so it has no weight here. take it and your co2 to the moon and neither will have any weight in gaseous form but they will both have the same mass there as they do here or anywhere else in the universe. just like a thousand ton ship will float in water. yes because weight is a force and it takes a force to displace water. once any object begins to float it has used up all of the force it has to displace the liquid so in effect it is weightless from that point. hell take your thousand ton ship to the moon and it will only weigh around 166 tons but still has the same mass which clearly demonstrates mass is not weight. --------------- if this co2 were instead he it would still have a weight in compressed or liquid form but when allowed to expand back into a gas it would have no weight at all and actually carry your balloon away and yet still have the same mass it always did. -------------- what a freakin gem of an idiotic statement. do yourself and the rest of us a huge favor call your local high school college or university ask for the physics department tell them what you just told us see if they agree with the above quoted statement. if they do i will personally travel to wherever you live and kiss your ass in public. the link that i supplied above shows that they would agree because weight is not mass b

From : max dodge

today me and a buddy started the truck after giving a little gas while cranking although it took 10 or more tries to do so. i drove it down the road a little ways and came back and turned the engine off and restarted the engine and it restarted again and then i turned off to see if it would restart and it went back to cranking up then 2 or 3 seconds and shuts offgauges on dash do not move. i believe it might have to do something with the antitheft/security system on the truck. anybody else have a problem with the antitheft/security system on their vehicle. any info will help. thanks for the replies back so far from everyone. .

From : storby

i replaced the sensor last night. i got it from a local auto parts store for $27. it was very easy to replace i was amazed. saved me some transmission work. truck is running great and shifting smoother now. thanks so much for your replies! http//durangoclub.com/forum was very useful as well. its free to sign up for their forums. tom lawrence wrote the sensor is very easy to replace... its on the drivers side of the transmission towards the back of the case. its got an electrical wire loom going to it with a two-pin connector at the end. once you unplug the connector the sensor unscrews then you screw the new one in. very easy. .

From : max dodge

sounds like the transmission has gone into the limp mode. limp mode on a 518 hahahaha 97 is an re. .

From : max dodge

sounds like the transmission has gone into the limp mode. limp mode on a 518 hahahaha .

From : the guy

are you looking for the wiring harness for your trailer if so they are tucked up in the frame rails near the back on the left side i do believe. according to the service manual the tow connector hooks to the splices. is this not true does the dodge add on tow connector hook in here bob az .

From : max dodge

sorry max but your argument is simply not holding any water. doesnt have to be fixed all at the same time because as you said it takes time for stuff to break. but your answer is completely wrong. prove it. you cant. i have a viable theory/possibility you dont. i have facts you have assumed bullshit that fits your perfect picture. why would he be complaining if dc was willing to fix is screwups and why would dc want to maintain an abusive customer that they will probably never make a dime on with his abuse of the vehicles he ownes i have no idea but he did complain and he did admit that dc fixed the problems. while that does back up my point of dealer 1 dc 0 do you really think that dc does not track warranty repairs per dealer. we have read stories in this group as well where some dealers were not allowed to make some repairs because dc thought that the rate of that type of repair was too high at that dealership. nothing is going to cause the loss of a good customer faster than a real hassle about getting a valid warranty issue taken care of and it simply isnt worth it to keep a bad one. individual situations vary and thats why your conclusions dont add up. different dealers operate different ways and you cant accept that. ive offered possibilities and backed those ideas with evidence that makes them viable. youin turn insist that the world operates your way and your way only yet you have no viable evidence that the world is perfect. i pointed out that such a situation had nothing to do with it. but provided nothing to back up your point. your reaction backed up my point most of them do in todays world but what does that have to do with your point how you totally missed beating the ball joint issue because the ball joint issue is not qc it was a bad design that failed. lol what design isnt part of quality ok...... thats it. im done here. you are full of shit up to your eyeballs no need for me to prod you into showing any further. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. . 222 303001 dwae.15556$f96.5931@trnddc08 no parts that would normally fail qc if it caught them are also considered either substandard or defective depending what is wrong with them. ok so now it depends on whats wrong with them. whatever. you are changing your position more and more each day. as to admission of fault wrong again. warranty is a part of the price you pay for a new vehicle. lol you are kidding right. while they may add to the cost of the vehicle every claim is a loss of profit for the company and in todays world... yes. so why put crap parts on so you can pay for it to be put on again under warranty agreed but if the problems are obvious customer caused abuse as you suggest they will not fix it for free. thats a general assumption that is not always true particularly if they desire to keep a customer satisfied. dc despite what many people think likes to have a satisfied customer. so if the dealer can put it through under warranty it goes. bullshit. attracting abusive customers like this does nothing for the bottom line. lol while true word of mouth can do more damage than shutting up the idiot by helping him out. but what you are saying makes no business sense at all. there is simply no point in attracting customers that will eliminate your profits in bogus warranty calims and they didnt stay in business by being idiots. sure there is. see above. yeah but warranty and quality of parts do not. recall that the subject was warranty and qc not sales. once the vehicle is sold it matters not what it looks like. but it has to be sold first and people look at both looks and quality and the better it looks the less concerned they seem to be about quality. until they break it then they bitch to people like you who defend idiocy. iow you know that im right and that the 5 star has become nothing more than a marketing gimmick. never said otherwise. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i continue to ask for proof of this. the proof is already in the pudding max. the parts failed and dc repaired them under warranty which indicates that they know the fault is theirs. now if these problems happened to every vehicle within the same time frame then you could say it is the nature of the beast but since it doesnt.. you have it backwards. if all parts failed that would be a substandard part. but they havent. no parts that would normally fail qc if it caught them are also considered either substandard or defective depending what is wrong with them. as to admission of fault wrong again. warranty is a part of the price you pay for a new vehicle. lol you are kidding right. while they may add to the

From : max dodge

lol yea like they have a choice. um well yeah they do. no they dont obviously you dont do much business with warranties and quality control. when they offer a warranty they do a cost/benefit study. which means nothing. they still have to honor the warranty. more proof you have never done business regarding warranties and quality control. in order to honor the warranty they spend money. if they can save money by using a better part they will. better quality parts mean lower warranty costs. and higher production costs and sometimes the increase in warranty costs is more than offset by lower production costs. more proof you have never done business regarding warranties and quality control. production costs have nothing to do with warranty or parts costs in this issue. further a poor quality piece from the line gets replaced by.... the same damn thing under warranty. as such the part will now cost them twice the labor and twice the parts cost. if its replaced once thus its cheaper to put a quality part on once that it is to put a pos on twice. so i have to ask....are you actually in business yes but it is obvious that you are not. warranty lenght increases are good for sales and are sometimes required if others are doing it. required lol but not at a cost that exceeeds benefit. reductions in qc can save big bucks and if done carefully may only increase claims by a few percent that is more than made up for by the savings in production costs. a good example is the 9 1/4 rear axle and the shit bearings they started using. if the cheap bearings save them say $10 an axle and they create 50000 axles they just made themselfs $500000. now if these lower cost bearings have a 1% failure rate within the warranty period at a cost to the factorty of $200 per axle per repair that will cost them $100000 which still nets a $400000 profit for minimal customer complaints. the down side is that they dont usually count the failure rate after the warranty which could be much higher and give the company a bad rep. thats terrific if your numbers are actual numbers. but you offer no proof of that so ill assume that you are hoping your example will fly without proof. it wont. there is an opposite result and if you are in business as you claim you know that as well. so quality takes a backseat to looks in many cases yes it does or jaguar would have gone out of business many years ago and i really dont see the ram as being any higher in quality or fit and finish than the ford superduty. lol on both issues. hahahaha. please buy the ford soon. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .

From : tbone

even when brand new the lever would not allow a shift into 1 unless my speed was below approx. 15 mph. when i would shift into 1 the shift would not occur until my speed was slowed. .

From : miles

no it wont shift into 1st at all. 2nd and 3rd seem to be fine. .

From : tbone

tom lawrence wrote you should go back and ask them to re-check because everything youve read indicates that code is an output speed sensor malfunction which has nothing to do with the torque converter or pump. i have a friend who rebuilds cars and has said that most of these sensors are easy to replace. the hardest part is knowing which one is bad and where it is. is this easy enough for me to replace is the dealer the only place to get this sensor since my 99 durango is getting older im sure ill have more questions like this. is there a site where you guys normally hang out or is this group the best place for these type of questions again thanks so much! .

From : tbone

according to the service manual the tow connector hooks to the splices. is this not true does the dodge add on tow connector hook in here bob az .

From : the guy

it doesnt there are perfect machines out there every stinking one has no defects find me one that proves this point you are desperate to make. make sure its fasirly complex like a motor vehicle weighs at least 2000lbs and goes at least 50mph or moves more than 10 tons. yawn yet more spin. i was referring to the frequency of the failures and you know that. yes i do thats why i asked you to come up with a perfect service record for any complex machine and all its models. lol there is a big difference between a perfect record and something that craps out every day. exactly thats why a warranty is offered. and excessive failures of this type is a clear indication of poor qc. ok so again prove that there are excessive failures in any of the items mr. f. twit mentioned. how about the number of failures alone. one or two failures is usually acceptable but this many and in these areas simply is not. proof the proof is in the pre-mature failure of the assembly when abuse is not evident. no proof would be an excessive number of failures of a specific part. you dont have that. no that would be a part that was pooly designed like the ball joints. a substandard part is also a part that is not up to the standards it was designed to meet and most of these get into the market due to failures in qc. while true it is also a matter of how many problems occur with a individual vehicle and over what period of time regardless of how they are addressed. exactly. so if the number of similar problems is not way out of whack its not a qc problem. pretty much what ive been saying all along. any problems that get out is a qc problem. yup and that number of problems is addressed in the lemon laws. wrong. the lemon law refers to the number of times the same problem returns not the total number of problems especially if it is constantly different things. bingo. read what ya said and remember that you claimed the ops truck was a lemon. lol like many thinhs in life max the legal and accepted definition are not always the same thing. or owner abuse. which you have yet to demonstrate especially with the parts in question. how hard is it for you to figure out you know everything but you cannot figure out that four of the problems occurred in one or two square feet on the bottom of the truck leaky trans seal broken shift linkage bad y pipe rusted out trans pan this screams out that someone center hung the truck. yea but where did he say that it all happened or was repaired at the same time and why would he be complaining if dc fixed his screwup for free sorry max but your argument is simply not holding any water. while my point is that the failure could have happened for reasons other than manufacturer defect. you keep making that point but have yet to prove it either. at least the dealer actions back up what im saying and you dont even have that. sorry you are wrong. ive given and repeated my answers to this. but your answer is completely wrong. why would he be complaining if dc was willing to fix is screwups and why would dc want to maintain an abusive customer that they will probably never make a dime on with his abuse of the vehicles he ownes yet while the manufacturer may not have been at fault they still came through on warranty items. lol yea right like that is ever gonna happen. in todays world with falling margins and fear of bankruptcy unless they like the idea of going under they are only going to repair what they have to and customer damage is not something that they have to repair. but you constantly argue that customer satisfaction is paramount which leads to one thing the dealer will cover anything he can to keep the customer happy. while that does back up my point of dealer 1 dc 0 do you really think that dc does not track warranty repairs per dealer. we have read stories in this group as well where some dealers were not allowed to make some repairs because dc thought that the rate of that type of repair was too high at that dealership. nothing is going to cause the loss of a good customer faster than a real hassle about getting a valid warranty issue taken care of and it simply isnt worth it to keep a bad one. well then according to your logic you are assuming the dealer has another brand for sale on the lot. most of them do in todays world but what does that have to do with your point exactly. you mentioned that dealers would be somehow suspect if they sold two brands not suspect just not a true representative of any particular manufacturer simply a retailer i pointed out that such a situation had nothing to do with it. but provided nothing to back up your point. what does 10 miles have to do with any of his problems i doubt that a trans pan a y pipe seat belts or even the shift linkage are going to show any problems in 10

From : tbone

on tue 12 jul 2005 053409 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote sorry tom but you are incorrect here and your vacuum description proves that. the volume of a cylinder is a dimensional measurement of space within the cylinder while the volume of a material whether liquid gas or solid is the amount of that material. within the space wrong. material is measured in weight or fluid increments. volume will always be the amount of space the material can fill not the amount of material. lol material is not always measured in weight and fluid increments are a volume measurment and you can get 100 oz of liquid in a 200 oz container and it is still sold or measured as 100 oz. the same goes for gas although gas is usually sold in a compressed or liquid form iow more cu in of gas than the cu in volume of the container. any volume measurement of a gas is meaningless if the density is not taking into consideration. take a co2 cartridge for example. at high pressure high density the gas is in a liquid form and occupies but a small amount of space volume which will equal the interior dimensions of the particular containment cylinder and will weigh x amount. poke a hole in that container the pressure inside far exceeds atmospheric pressure here on the surface of the earth therefore the co2 escapes until the pressure in the container equals ambient atmospheric pressure. if you capture this gas as it leaves the container say in a ballon and discounting any amount lost due to leakeage the weight of the gas in the ballon will equal the original weight of the gas in the cylinder but the volume will increase dramatically. if i were to put 1 molecule of oxygen into a 20 cu in container it most definitely would not have a volume of 20 cu in. it would take up the same molecular amount of space that a single oxygen molecule always takes up it would just be in a 20 cu in space. thats terrific but we arent talking about one molecule were talking about millions. as such we are also talking about density. why not talk about one molecule first to accomplish what boner suggests he must first evacuate *all* other matter from the 20 ci container. in other words create a total and complete vacuum good luck. then inject one molecule of oxygen. indeed you will end up with a 20 ci container full of oxygen at a very low density. put another molecule of o in there and youve doubled the density but you still have only 20 ci of oxygen add a million or a zillion same story only the density changes... it doesnt matter. if the rule works for millions it also has to work for just one or the rule is invalid. whether a gas is at 2psi or 20psi if its in a 20cu.in.container its volume is 20cu.in. corrrect if you are simply trying to measure how much room the gas occupies at the given pressure but to complete the measurement you must also specify what the pressure inside the container is. if what boner is saying is true the same amount of gas would have to be present at 2 psi as it would at 200 psi. hey boner you are about to go to a wrecking yard to dismantle an old truck with your o/a cutting torch. you have two 80 cf o2 containers. one is pretty light in weight the other relatively heavy. the job is expected to take several hours and is an hours drive from your home/work. you only have room for one of your o2 cyllinders. which one do you take and why they both contain 80 cf of o2 correct if that is true it shouldnt matter which cylinder you take choose the lighter one it will be easier to move around... according to boners theory why use a turbo charger or super charger if a engines cylinder will only hold x amount of air/fuel it would be futile to attempt to try to get more in there right oh crap we forgot about the density of the a/f mixture entering the cylinder didnt we in a 6.0 liter engine each cylinder is only capable of holding .75l of a/f mixture. hey .75l is .75l right it should produce the identical amount of hp whether it is at sea level or at 10000 right oh crap we forgot about the differences in ambient air pressure and density of the air between 10k and 0k altitude... snip i have. it is either measure as just cu ft where it usually has a large number or by the size of the container along with the pressure. if it is in a liquid form it is sold by weight but then again that would not be a compressed gas now would it... all gasses subject to atmospheric pressure are compressed dude its all relative its all about density and pressure not how much space a gas occupies. dj .

From : tbone

how about the constant velocity joint and the u-joints also you can narrow it down by removing drive shafts. also can you feel it under your feet also make sure all the u-joints are in line. another thing is are you sure you dont have a broken spring in the clutch or a bad throw out bearing i have had them bad right out of the box. it also could be the cincro out of a line just a bit in the tranny. just a hair out of sink can make a world of difference. .

From : the guy

nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. how exactly do you figure that vehicle is a pos by the number and frequency of required repairs.. the fact that dc keeps repairing it shows that they know it is not the customers fault. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

in driving. shop which gave the code said it could be 1 torque converter 2 front transmission oil pump 3 torque converter clutch solenoid or transmission assuming thats the correct code that they retrieved and gave you your shop is looking to gouge you for cash... p0720 is a speed sensor-related code... meaning probably a bad output speed sensor on the transmission something that costs under $50 and takes about 5 minutes to replace. time to find another shop .

From : the guy

um no. air is elestic. itll always be the same volume. different density but same volume. um no. the volume is based on the amount of air that manages to get into the cylinder in any given cycle and there is nothing all that consistant about that. if this were true there would be no need for a throttle body. youre confusing volume and mass or moles... the volume of air in the cylinder is always equal to the volume of that cylinder unless its a complete vacuum which doesnt happen. a gas will always expand to fill its container. whether a gas is at 2psi or 20psi if its in a 20cu.in. container its volume is 20cu.in. .

From : tbone

warranty work is a huge expense yet they honor it. lol yea like they have a choice. um well yeah they do. no they dont when they offer a warranty they do a cost/benefit study. which means nothing. they still have to honor the warranty. better quality parts mean lower warranty costs. and higher production costs and sometimes the increase in warranty costs is more than offset by lower production costs. since dc extended its warranty from the measly 3/36 i had to a 7/70 just a year later they must have felt safe in making the move since lower quality parts would have cost them more under warranty claims. so i have to ask....are you actually in business yes but it is obvious that you are not. warranty lenght increases are good for sales and are sometimes required if others are doing it. reductions in qc can save big bucks and if done carefully may only increase claims by a few percent that is more than made up for by the savings in production costs. a good example is the 9 1/4 rear axle and the shit bearings they started using. if the cheap bearings save them say $10 an axle and they create 50000 axles they just made themselfs $500000. now if these lower cost bearings have a 1% failure rate within the warranty period at a cost to the factorty of $200 per axle per repair that will cost them $100000 which still nets a $400000 profit for minimal customer complaints. the down side is that they dont usually count the failure rate after the warranty which could be much higher and give the company a bad rep. where did i say that dodge was crappy what i did say is that they are not the definition of perfection that many in hear seem to believe. i bought my dodge because i liked dodge prior to them selling out and liked the way the truck looked. i also knew the manager if the dealership dont think it was a bs 5 star and got an excellent deal. my next truck will probably be a f250 superduty because they are about a million times better looking than that disaster of a butt ugly body style personal opinion that dodge has now for the ram and my friend has one with no problems at all so far. so quality takes a backseat to looks in many cases yes it does or jaguar would have gone out of business many years ago and i really dont see the ram as being any higher in quality or fit and finish than the ford superduty. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

well in order for the volume to be the same on each cylinder that would mean that every cylinder connecting rod and piston is exactly the same size and we all know that is impossible. once again proving you are full of shit. you keep complaining about my mastery of the language but dont loke it when your childish actions are used on you. exact means exact and unless there is absolutly no difference in any measurments between cylinders they cannot be exactly the same. now besides that unless the pistons dont move in your maxworld engines the volume between all cylinders is never the same and the volume in any one cylinder is constantly changing ok lets go into idiocy with this. in tbone world the volume is never the same from cylinder to cylinder despite all cylinders rods and pistons having the same dimensions within .001. the fact that you have that variance says that they cannot be exactly the same and since all of the pistons are never in exactly the same position in their bores as the others the volume cannot be the same in all cylinders. regarding the constantly changing thats rubbish. there are two points where the piston will dwell at bdc and tdc at these points the piston is still. i believe i already said that. regarding changing the volume of each cylinder is referred to as the swept volume and is the same from cyinder to cylinder and is noted by the moniker most enhgines pick up eaither cid or litre both of which refer to a volume measurement and are never changed unless the engine is modified. lol while true it has nothing to do with the actual volume of each cylinder in a given point in time. the cid refers to the total volume of all cylinders at their maximum capacity and unless the engine is modified that as you say will never change. as for the actual volume of each individual cylinder that changes according to the position of the piston. with the exception of the small instant in time while the piston changes direction as the crankshaft turns. how do you think that an engine compresses the air fuel mixture with a piston. correct by reducing the volume of each cylinder or compressing the volume and the gas contained within it. the cylinder remains at the same volume. lol impossible. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : miles

thanks ill check....gauges do not move when cranking is performed also.....is that a computer problem..... no theres no power to the cluster during cranking just like theres no power to the radio blower motor etc. - the idea being give as much juice as possible/needed to the starter. lots of start/stall problems on these trucks stem from a weak/failed battery where the battery gets drawn down to around 10v during cranking - this causes various sensors to read incorrectly to the pcm and it gets confused. yes check the battry connections then have the battery load-tested most any place that sells batteries can do this. if it fails that test meaning it drops below about 12.3-12.5v during cranking its time for a new battery. .

From : max dodge

really do you have the dyno and airflow results to back this up i am not arguing with you i just want to know where you are getting this from. tom lawrence did some testing of tbs a while ago not sure what all it included but the results were minimal improvements at best. cool now i know not to waste my money on false claims. um no. the volume is based on the amount of air that manages to get into the cylinder in any given cycle and there is nothing all that consistant about that. if this were true there would be no need for a throttle body. lol nope. if you were correct compression ratio and cylinder pressure would mean nothing. lol do you even know what a compression ration is here is a hint it is the change in cylinder volume between bottom and top dead center and has nothing to do with the amount of air in the cylinder. adding a blower or turbo does not change the compression ratio of an engine but it does drastically increase the volume of air pushed into the cylinders hence the recommended drop in compression ratio to a reasonable level on engines where they are used. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. you nor i know what the cause of the problems are so to make that assumption is absurd. problems do occur with any make or model. what makes this different than many others is dc resolved them. .

From : max dodge

nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. how exactly do you figure that -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. tbone wrote i didnt say that but there has to be a limit on the number of failures over a given period of time and this seems to be a bit excessive. you base dc reliability on 1 vehicle too funny. nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

tbone wrote i didnt say that but there has to be a limit on the number of failures over a given period of time and this seems to be a bit excessive. you base dc reliability on 1 vehicle too funny. nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : denny

that sounds like bad shocks. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving the 2002 dakota has a hell of a bounce in the backend when going over potholes or bad roadways. almost lost control today on a highway doing 60 mph. i hit a bad stretch of road. is this normal i have an open bed no cap. is there something that can be done to lesson the bounce thanks .

From : miles

john smith jones wrote the 2002 dakota has a hell of a bounce in the backend when going over potholes or bad roadways. almost lost control today on a highway doing 60 mph. i hit a bad stretch of road. is this normal i have an open bed no cap. is there something that can be done to lesson the bounce thanks change the shocks. let some air out of the tires. put some weight in the back. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : mike simmons

the 2002 dakota has a hell of a bounce in the backend when going over potholes or bad roadways. almost lost control today on a highway doing 60 mph. i hit a bad stretch of road. is this normal i have an open bed no cap. is there something that can be done to lesson the bounce thanks .

From : mike simmons

thanks ill check....gauges do not move when cranking is performed also.....is that a computer problem.....will check battery connections though .

From : tbone

it doesnt there are perfect machines out there every stinking one has no defects find me one that proves this point you are desperate to make. make sure its fasirly complex like a motor vehicle weighs at least 2000lbs and goes at least 50mph or moves more than 10 tons. yawn yet more spin. i was referring to the frequency of the failures and you know that. yes i do thats why i asked you to come up with a perfect service record for any complex machine and all its models. exactly thats why a warranty is offered. and excessive failures of this type is a clear indication of poor qc. ok so again prove that there are excessive failures in any of the items mr. f. twit mentioned. proof the proof is in the pre-mature failure of the assembly when abuse is not evident. no proof would be an excessive number of failures of a specific part. you dont have that. while true it is also a matter of how many problems occur with a individual vehicle and over what period of time regardless of how they are addressed. exactly. so if the number of similar problems is not way out of whack its not a qc problem. pretty much what ive been saying all along. yup and that number of problems is addressed in the lemon laws. wrong. the lemon law refers to the number of times the same problem returns not the total number of problems especially if it is constantly different things. bingo. read what ya said and remember that you claimed the ops truck was a lemon. or owner abuse. which you have yet to demonstrate especially with the parts in question. how hard is it for you to figure out you know everything but you cannot figure out that four of the problems occurred in one or two square feet on the bottom of the truck leaky trans seal broken shift linkage bad y pipe rusted out trans pan this screams out that someone center hung the truck. while my point is that the failure could have happened for reasons other than manufacturer defect. you keep making that point but have yet to prove it either. at least the dealer actions back up what im saying and you dont even have that. sorry you are wrong. ive given and repeated my answers to this. yet while the manufacturer may not have been at fault they still came through on warranty items. lol yea right like that is ever gonna happen. in todays world with falling margins and fear of bankruptcy unless they like the idea of going under they are only going to repair what they have to and customer damage is not something that they have to repair. but you constantly argue that customer satisfaction is paramount which leads to one thing the dealer will cover anything he can to keep the customer happy. well then according to your logic you are assuming the dealer has another brand for sale on the lot. most of them do in todays world but what does that have to do with your point exactly. you mentioned that dealers would be somehow suspect if they sold two brands i pointed out that such a situation had nothing to do with it. above i show why it has nothing to do with it and you ask why it has anything to do with it. well i dont know you brough that point up. what does 10 miles have to do with any of his problems i doubt that a trans pan a y pipe seat belts or even the shift linkage are going to show any problems in 10 miles even if they are almost completely phucked. this would equate to the seatbelt being possibly used once the shift linkage used 3 times 15 minutes of exposure on the y pipe paint and trans pan. yea tuff test to pass. exactly thats why im saying that something extraordinary happened here not a massive qc problem not a dealer/dc fault. big deal so they test drove it. that doesnt mean that they found everything there either and come to think of it your truck did have a bad steering box along with the damaged paint and you got it anyway. so much for your prep process catching all things. thanks for proving my point once again. my point is the truck was good to go when it left with no qc problems. you claim things take a while to happen and thats true. but in that while things other than lack of quality can happen as well. so while you scream about qc problems you have no real proof not even a suggestion or an example of a qc problem. how you totally missed beating the ball joint issue to death is beyond me. that would have proven your point in spades but only on that item. meanwhile ive noted the location of all the damage and it certainly smacks of a truck that got stuck out on a trail. because any mechanical object takes time to work hte bugs out. its the truth even if its a poor pr move. but this is a full product release. it should not have any serious bugs by that point but thank you for once again proving mine. sometimes it takes time for defective parts to completely fail. that or about 15 seconds out in the woods on a g

From : tbone

by the time the air flow gets to the cylinder runners in the typical mopar manifold the tb is long past being the cause of turbulance. too much has happened to the air by that point to blame the tb for the turbulance. however inducing a laminar flow at that point can ease some of the rough trip ahead. you do know that this is not always true right its always true in the dodge manifold given its design. really do you have the dyno and airflow results to back this up i am not arguing with you i just want to know where you are getting this from. turbulence tends to be cumulative and amplified in its travels so the sooner you can reduce or eliminate it the better off you are. hence my suggestion at causing laminar air flow. now i am not saying that it will work for his manifold nor did i. but they do work well for some and that is the reason why their effectiveness is so arguable pretty much like the performance increase claims of a k&n filter. never said anything different. the volume of air in the cylinder will always be the same. no the volume of the cylinders will always be the same. the volume of air in those cylinders is always changing or there would be no need for the tb. um no. air is elestic. itll always be the same volume. different density but same volume. um no. the volume is based on the amount of air that manages to get into the cylinder in any given cycle and there is nothing all that consistant about that. if this were true there would be no need for a throttle body. changing the tb may have an effect but from what ive seen read heard etc most times a larger tb drops low end torque and boosts hp. which probably is not the best idea for a truck. hence the uproar when kibucki used to hawk his wares with no solid dyno proof. money is better spent on intake manifolds be it a better one or simply porting and port matching on the stock one. agreed but that wasnt his question. heance the reason why i didnt suggest it til after i answered his question. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : denny

i continue to ask for proof of this. the proof is already in the pudding max. the parts failed and dc repaired them under warranty which indicates that they know the fault is theirs. now if these problems happened to every vehicle within the same time frame then you could say it is the nature of the beast but since it doesnt.. you have it backwards. if all parts failed that would be a substandard part. but they havent. as to admission of fault wrong again. warranty is a part of the price you pay for a new vehicle. its dc admitting that mechanical things can go wrong and wanting to provide trouble free ownership just like anyone who offers a warranty. it is not an assumption it is a fact backed up by them making the repairs. you have this all backwards in typical fashion. now where is yours showing that these problems are due to the customer and if it is the customers fault why is dc repairing them dc despite what many people think likes to have a satisfied customer. so if the dealer can put it through under warranty it goes. now as to why i think its very possible its customer abuse i already detailed that. how can you fairly represent two or more competing companies at the same time they are nothing more than retailers and repair centers. id agree if they sold competing makes that the sales end was a bit suspect. but in this case its warranty work which means the dealer wants you to come back no matter what they bill to the manufacturer. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. i guess that you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be. sales come from both subjective desires and actual value. yeah but warranty and quality of parts do not. recall that the subject was warranty and qc not sales. once the vehicle is sold it matters not what it looks like. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. no just another example of your spin. this is not the only thing that i go by but even in this group alone there are many omplaints. um but it is see thats what you said really not by what im reading in this group alone. so if you say your facts come from this group alone thats what you mean. if its not what you mean then you are lying or spinning. again you have an issue with saying what you mean or a lack of a grasp of the language. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. now where is your proof that nobody gave these dealers a bad rating or that dc even really looks at them. hell how many dealerships have had their five star rating stripped from them. i would say pretty damn close to none but feel free to post a list or a link to a list to prove me wrong. dont know dont care. i just pointed out where you finally made sense. its not the subject at hand so back to the qc and owner abuse that is the topic. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .

From : max dodge

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 i continue to ask for proof of this. you have made a general assumption that you have declined to provide proof to back it. thus logic dictates that you are not making a valid point since you have based your theory on unproven assumptions. so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. the csi and ffv scores do come off the customer rating card but there is more to the 5 star rating than just that. training for all departments processes put in place to handle everything from customer complaints to who to call if the shitter plugs up. building cleanliness signage in the parking lots periodic employee information meetings special tools are but a few of the things that get checked off the list before a store is given 5 star. i heard once when i was still privvy to such things that if a service manager could bs good enough dc would send him a heated leather office chair. ohhhhhhh.... now i see..... bad mouthin my chair now huh ;^ mike not at all my friend. i just want to hear some stories on how your secretary likes it.. vbg denny .

From : miles

lol yea you keep telling yourself that. compared to what you deserve to hear its true. have a nice day! see more courtesy!! -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. lol yea you keep telling yourself that. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving maybe not in writing... no maybe about it jr. ive been very courteous in my words to you. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. maybe not in writing... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. never called you that. a least not in writing on here. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

you have had bad luck sack up quit whining cut your losses sell your pos dodge and buy a ford. be happy! so call your truck a lemon call it a pos piss and moan. sell your pos dodge cut your losses. life is too short to stay all worked up over your past dodge problems. try something else howeveri suspect that your troubles will follow you no matter what you drive. so try the the others then you may be wishing for your dodge back. jrc that sums up my feeling as well. roy amen! mike .

From : roy

i have a 2001 ram pickup1500. according to the service manual there are a number of splices in the left side frame rail in the rear. but all i find is a large wire bundle that is taped around. somewhat square in shape and about 10 long. is this the location of the splices for those that have a service manual the page is 8w-95-10 figure 11. splices s315 thru s321. thanks bob az yes the splices are in the harness. what are you trying to do... there may be an easier way! mike .

From : tbone

that sums up my feeling as well. roy same here -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. you have had bad luck sack up quit whining cut your losses sell your pos dodge and buy a ford. be happy! so call your truck a lemon call it a pos piss and moan. sell your pos dodge cut your losses. life is too short to stay all worked up over your past dodge problems. try something else howeveri suspect that your troubles will follow you no matter what you drive. so try the the others then you may be wishing for your dodge back. jrc that sums up my feeling as well. roy .

From : coasty

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 i continue to ask for proof of this. you have made a general assumption that you have declined to provide proof to back it. thus logic dictates that you are not making a valid point since you have based your theory on unproven assumptions. so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. the csi and ffv scores do come off the customer rating card but there is more to the 5 star rating than just that. training for all departments processes put in place to handle everything from customer complaints to who to call if the shitter plugs up. building cleanliness signage in the parking lots periodic employee information meetings special tools are but a few of the things that get checked off the list before a store is given 5 star. i heard once when i was still privvy to such things that if a service manager could bs good enough dc would send him a heated leather office chair. they must have sent you a entire living room set.vbg now carlos that i have your attention how did it go sunday roy denny .

From : denny

on fri 08 jul 2005 011251 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote nathan w. collier wrote im getting ready to fit my 05 dually with a service body and im wondering what the fair market value is on the original truck bed. the bed is in brand new condition only a couple hundred miles on the truck!. with a service bed on the dually i have no use for the truck bed. thanks whatever someone will pay. not trying to be a smart assbut thats the plain fact. put it on ebay for 99.00 no reserve and it will sell for what its worth in my opinion. clay now that would be dumb unless it is only worth $99 to him. figure out what you would really want for it and i would say considerably more than $99 and set that as the reserve. remember iirc if you say no reserve you have to sell it for whatever the highest bid is even if it was $99.00 you can always set the reserve extremely high just to see what the highest bid comes out to be and if someone still exceeds that reserve you still win. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you havent sold much on ebay have you i would guess that a reserve knocks out at least half the bidders. bidders are like feeding sharks you have to get them into a bidding frenzy. a reserve takes the flavor out of the bait. beekeeep at times i email the person and ask his reserve even though it may be against the rules. if he decides not to divulge it i move on especially with a common item. ill be damned if i chase an item and not meet a reserve price only to have another item slip by in the mean time. hey if the reserve is too high i move on. if his reserve is within my range i bid it outright. .

From : max dodge

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 i continue to ask for proof of this. you have made a general assumption that you have declined to provide proof to back it. thus logic dictates that you are not making a valid point since you have based your theory on unproven assumptions. so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. the csi and ffv scores do come off the customer rating card but there is more to the 5 star rating than just that. training for all departments processes put in place to handle everything from customer complaints to who to call if the shitter plugs up. building cleanliness signage in the parking lots periodic employee information meetings special tools are but a few of the things that get checked off the list before a store is given 5 star. i heard once when i was still privvy to such things that if a service manager could bs good enough dc would send him a heated leather office chair. denny .

From : max dodge

hello all i have a question . is there an air conditioner filter for the outside air and if so how do you get it out there is no chiltons publications yet for an 2002 ram quad with the 4.7 thanks in advance ....theski its located inside the muffler. remove the easy access panel thats located on top of the muffler then stick your hand down in there and pull it out. replace it with a new mopar one. -- moparman---remove clothes to reply! --scud coordinates 32.61204 north 96.92993 west-- .

From : roy

maybe not in writing... no maybe about it jr. ive been very courteous in my words to you. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. maybe not in writing... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. never called you that. a least not in writing on here. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

by the time the air flow gets to the cylinder runners in the typical mopar manifold the tb is long past being the cause of turbulance. too much has happened to the air by that point to blame the tb for the turbulance. however inducing a laminar flow at that point can ease some of the rough trip ahead. you do know that this is not always true right its always true in the dodge manifold given its design. turbulence tends to be cumulative and amplified in its travels so the sooner you can reduce or eliminate it the better off you are. hence my suggestion at causing laminar air flow. now i am not saying that it will work for his manifold nor did i. but they do work well for some and that is the reason why their effectiveness is so arguable pretty much like the performance increase claims of a k&n filter. never said anything different. the volume of air in the cylinder will always be the same. no the volume of the cylinders will always be the same. the volume of air in those cylinders is always changing or there would be no need for the tb. um no. air is elestic. itll always be the same volume. different density but same volume. changing the tb may have an effect but from what ive seen read heard etc most times a larger tb drops low end torque and boosts hp. which probably is not the best idea for a truck. hence the uproar when kibucki used to hawk his wares with no solid dyno proof. money is better spent on intake manifolds be it a better one or simply porting and port matching on the stock one. agreed but that wasnt his question. heance the reason why i didnt suggest it til after i answered his question. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .

From : tbone

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 i continue to ask for proof of this. you have made a general assumption that you have declined to provide proof to back it. thus logic dictates that you are not making a valid point since you have based your theory on unproven assumptions. so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .

From : the guy

you have had bad luck sack up quit whining cut your losses sell your pos dodge and buy a ford. be happy! so call your truck a lemon call it a pos piss and moan. sell your pos dodge cut your losses. life is too short to stay all worked up over your past dodge problems. try something else howeveri suspect that your troubles will follow you no matter what you drive. so try the the others then you may be wishing for your dodge back. jrc that sums up my feeling as well. roy .

From : jrc

on mon 11 jul 2005 180934 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote no it is not. i dont care how many times they are willing to fix it if it shouldnt have happened in the first place. so it is expected that there be perfection in all things i didnt say that but there has to be a limit on the number of failures over a given period of time and this seems to be a bit excessive. just because they are willing to correct it doesnt make the number of failures over a short period of time acceptable. if your ram had problems every few months that required it to be back at the dealer for repairs that could take days to complete i believe that you would have a very different attitude. whats your excuse then i dont have one and never claimed to be perfect what about you -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

no double standard about it. mechanical things have problems whether it be in a timely manner or not. the issue is whether or not the manufacturer deals with those problems in a timely and correct manner. according to the op the dealer did address his issues while the truck was under warranty. this would only be completely valid if it happened to all vehicles and it simply doesnt. it doesnt there are perfect machines out there every stinking one has no defects find me one that proves this point you are desperate to make. make sure its fasirly complex like a motor vehicle weighs at least 2000lbs and goes at least 50mph or moves more than 10 tons. proven mechanical things have problems when things are not assembled properly exactly thats why a warranty is offered. substandard parts are use in their assembly proof and / or when they simply wear out and this last reason is directly affected by the first two. no wear is directly affected by amount of use. it is indirectly affected by the other two. correct but the issue is still the service rendered not the problem. no it is not. i dont care how many times they are willing to fix it if it shouldnt have happened in the first place. i suggest then that you not buy anything with paint on it lest you get the one that didnt work out perfectly. when you build a million of something there will be problems of some sort within that million. thus its not about whether or not there is a problem but how that problem is addressed. while true it is also a matter of how many problems occur with a individual vehicle and over what period of time regardless of how they are addressed. yup and that number of problems is addressed in the lemon laws. many of the problems that he experienced simply should not have happened at all within the time frame he gave such as the pealing paint failed trans linkage and y pipe failure which indicate a problem with qc and the parts being used. or owner abuse. so far youve yet to prove your point qc while my point is that the failure could have happened for reasons other than manufacturer defect. yet while the manufacturer may not have been at fault they still came through on warranty items. yea but dc also scored a negative for it happening in the first place so their combined score is still zero. well then according to your logic you are assuming the dealer has another brand for sale on the lot. sorry it does mean they actually looked at it because part of prepping a new vehicle is looking at the underside for damage caused in transit including linkage. once again you are talking out of your ass. not at all. i worked for a small chrysler dealer in the mid 80s . i prepped all of the lebaron coupes they had at the time and i was required to put 10 miles on each one. further if you look at fritzs site i think he has the dealer prep process listed there including the 10 mile req. also my truck had exactly 10 miles on it when delivered to me. when i got my truck it had a large patch of paint worn thru on the roof where a chain from the car carrier got it and they didnt catch it. which proves nothing except that the dealer didnt follow proceedure on your truck. it has nothing to do with a test drive and is merely your attempt to use an irrelevant item to prove a point you cannot make. my truck also had scratches in the roof paint but they did test drive it per the required prep process. did they not wash your truck if they did then they were probably standing in the bed to wash the roof and could easily see it if they bothered to look.. what makes you think that they pay any more attention to the underside which is even more difficult to look at because two different people do the prep work. i assume then that the dealer had a crystal ball and looked up this trucks vin to find that out how could a dealer know that it would have multiple problems particularly when the problems are all unrelated except for owner handling why would the dealer say what he did because any mechanical object takes time to work hte bugs out. its the truth even if its a poor pr move. it would be better to instill confidence in the buyer not give warnings. i would suspect that this dealer was getting many of this particular vehicles in for excessive warranty work and figured that this would just be another one and he appeared to be right. well when ya sell a lot of one thing and cover the warranty its likely youll get a lot of them on warranty work. thats just he way it is nothing terrible about it. yeah everything that goes wrong on a vehicle is a substandard part as far as you are concerned. lol not really. but when a particular part is difficult if not impossible to abuse such as a y pipe what other cause of pre-mature failure could there be um owner abuse i mentioned that didnt i lol that is wher

From : miles

if you have an anti-theft system this may be caused by the computer not reading the key properly or not disabling the anti-theft system after the key is inserted. i had this problem runs only 2 seconds on two separate occasions with my 04 durango. i used the second key to start it. after that it ran fine with either key. the dealer could not duplicate the problem and there were no codes stored in the computer. frank ignoramus15786 ignoramus15786@nospam.15786.invalid wrote in message my truck did sometimes stall right after starting. the engine would start and then stop in 2-3 seconds. it would crank further but would not fire. i had to reboot the truck by going to the battery disconnecting a disconnect that i installed a long time ago and then reconnecting the battery. it would then start after some cranking. after a while of doing such i found out that another battery post not the one with disconnect had a poor connection first the battery terminal connection was loose and second due to an extra cable for an emergency inverter the cable connection woould get extremely hot after cranking. after correcting this the engine does not seem to stall anymore although it has been only 3 days. my question is could the above symptoms have been caused by a weak electrical connection of one terminal. or am i fooling myself and only seeing a random luck. the stalling occurred at random moments. i -- .

From : max dodge

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. lol back to full speed spin i see or are you really this dumb i agree on this point but he is only looking at half of the story. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 and look at that the other half. i continue to ask for proof of this. the proof is already in the pudding max. the parts failed and dc repaired them under warranty which indicates that they know the fault is theirs. now if these problems happened to every vehicle within the same time frame then you could say it is the nature of the beast but since it doesnt.. you have made a general assumption it is not an assumption it is a fact backed up by them making the repairs. now where is yours showing that these problems are due to the customer and if it is the customers fault why is dc repairing them so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... how can you fairly represent two or more competing companies at the same time they are nothing more than retailers and repair centers. fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. i guess that you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be. sales comefrom both subjective desires and actual value. when something has cutting edge and desirable looks subjective then people tend to look more at the style over mechanical dependability. when the looks are no longer at the i gotta have that car level people look much more closely at reliability and dependability. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. no just another example of your spin. this is not the only thing that i go by but even in this group alone there are many omplaints. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. now where is your proof that nobody gave these dealers a bad rating or that dc even really looks at them. hell how many dealerships have had their five star rating stripped from them. i would say pretty damn close to none but feel free to post a list or a link to a list to prove me wrong. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on mon 11 jul 2005 180934 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote actually maxi it is you that chooses not to address the issue. many of the problems should not have happened at all or at least not in the fairly short time frame that they did. it seems that you blame everything on the owner and you dont know the whole story either. back to that double standard once again i see. no double standard about it. mechanical things have problems whether it be in a timely manner or not. the issue is whether or not the manufacturer deals with those problems in a timely and correct manner. according to the op the dealer did address his issues while the truck was under warranty. this would only be completely valid if it happened to all vehicles and it simply doesnt. proven mechanical things have problems when things are not assembled properly substandard parts are use in their assembly and / or when they simply wear out and this last reason is directly affected by the first two. the issue is dcs customer service not how the paint peeled. wrong. it should not have peeled this early in the trucks life. correct but the issue is still the service rendered not the problem. no it is not. i dont care how many times they are willing to fix it if it shouldnt have happened in the first place. so it is expected that there be perfection in all things whats your excuse then when you build a million of something there will be problems of some sort within that million. thus its not about whether or not there is a problem but how that problem is addressed. while true it is also a matter of how many problems occur with a individual vehicle and over what period of time regardless of how they are addressed. many of the problems that he experienced simply should not have happened at all within the time frame he gave such as the pealing paint failed trans linkage and y pipe failure which indicate a problem with qc and the parts being used. hard to find fault with anyone if the facts arent presented. but one fact was presented dc fixed the problem. dc 1 justme 0 no the dealer fixed it dc screwed it up. dc 0 dealer 1 the dealer is dcs warranty representative. if the dealer scored on a warranty problem so did dc. yea but dc also scored a negative for it happening in the first place so their combined score is still zero. random failures are usually caused by reduced quality controls that were corrected by the dealer. dc 0 dealer 2 dealer acts as representitive of dc dc retains lead. and still gets a negative for the failure combined score for dc is still zero. sorry it does mean they actually looked at it because part of prepping a new vehicle is looking at the underside for damage caused in transit including linkage. once again you are talking out of your ass. when i got my truck it had a large patch of paint worn thru on the roof where a chain from the car carrier got it and they didnt catch it. so did mine. but unless i miss my guess the roof is on top of the truck and not on the underside. did they not wash your truck if they did then they were probably standing in the bed to wash the roof and could easily see it if they bothered to look.. what makes you think that they pay any more attention to the underside which is even more difficult to look at regardless both trucks should have had the roof looked at for paint problems as it is part of the dealer prep process. and that is my point. they should have but didnt even though the problem was obvious. if they didnt bother to see the obvious what makes you think that they will notice anything else crawling under the truck is no easier than looking at the top of it and i would say that a defective part on the shift linkage is not all that obvious to begin with after all the linkage had to work to get the truck off of the carrier to begin with. as such it was broken after being sold. so the owner broke it and dc replaced it. dc 3 justme 0 back to spin once again. while it did break after being sold that is not the same thing as the owner breaking it. btw you still didnt expalin how the owner could have done it other than just trying to make it perform its function iow it was defective. dc 0 dealer 3 dealer acts as dc representitive dc retains score. dc also cause of failure with defective parts score canceled. lol feel free to hide behind the legal definition of a lemon. lets just say that the dealer probably knew that this particular vehicle was going to have a lot of problems. i assume then that the dealer had a crystal ball and looked up this trucks vin to find that out how could a dealer know that it would have multiple problems particularly when the problems are all unrelated except for owner handling why would the dealer say what he did it would be better to instill confidence in the buyer not

From : high sierra

i have a 2001 ram pickup1500. according to the service manual there are a number of splices in the left side frame rail in the rear. but all i find is a large wire bundle that is taped around. somewhat square in shape and about 10 long. is this the location of the splices for those that have a service manual the page is 8w-95-10 figure 11. splices s315 thru s321. thanks bob az .

From : miles

ps hope she likes heated leather seats! real women dont need heated leather seats....... bg denny what about us with heated cloth seats and vibrating..... oh never mind. -- ken .

From : tbone

actually maxi it is you that chooses not to address the issue. many of the problems should not have happened at all or at least not in the fairly short time frame that they did. it seems that you blame everything on the owner and you dont know the whole story either. back to that double standard once again i see. no double standard about it. mechanical things have problems whether it be in a timely manner or not. the issue is whether or not the manufacturer deals with those problems in a timely and correct manner. according to the op the dealer did address his issues while the truck was under warranty. this would only be completely valid if it happened to all vehicles and it simply doesnt. proven mechanical things have problems when things are not assembled properly substandard parts are use in their assembly and / or when they simply wear out and this last reason is directly affected by the first two. the issue is dcs customer service not how the paint peeled. wrong. it should not have peeled this early in the trucks life. correct but the issue is still the service rendered not the problem. no it is not. i dont care how many times they are willing to fix it if it shouldnt have happened in the first place. when you build a million of something there will be problems of some sort within that million. thus its not about whether or not there is a problem but how that problem is addressed. while true it is also a matter of how many problems occur with a individual vehicle and over what period of time regardless of how they are addressed. many of the problems that he experienced simply should not have happened at all within the time frame he gave such as the pealing paint failed trans linkage and y pipe failure which indicate a problem with qc and the parts being used. hard to find fault with anyone if the facts arent presented. but one fact was presented dc fixed the problem. dc 1 justme 0 no the dealer fixed it dc screwed it up. dc 0 dealer 1 the dealer is dcs warranty representative. if the dealer scored on a warranty problem so did dc. yea but dc also scored a negative for it happening in the first place so their combined score is still zero. random failures are usually caused by reduced quality controls that were corrected by the dealer. dc 0 dealer 2 dealer acts as representitive of dc dc retains lead. and still gets a negative for the failure combined score for dc is still zero. sorry it does mean they actually looked at it because part of prepping a new vehicle is looking at the underside for damage caused in transit including linkage. once again you are talking out of your ass. when i got my truck it had a large patch of paint worn thru on the roof where a chain from the car carrier got it and they didnt catch it. so did mine. but unless i miss my guess the roof is on top of the truck and not on the underside. did they not wash your truck if they did then they were probably standing in the bed to wash the roof and could easily see it if they bothered to look.. what makes you think that they pay any more attention to the underside which is even more difficult to look at regardless both trucks should have had the roof looked at for paint problems as it is part of the dealer prep process. and that is my point. they should have but didnt even though the problem was obvious. if they didnt bother to see the obvious what makes you think that they will notice anything else crawling under the truck is no easier than looking at the top of it and i would say that a defective part on the shift linkage is not all that obvious to begin with after all the linkage had to work to get the truck off of the carrier to begin with. as such it was broken after being sold. so the owner broke it and dc replaced it. dc 3 justme 0 back to spin once again. while it did break after being sold that is not the same thing as the owner breaking it. btw you still didnt expalin how the owner could have done it other than just trying to make it perform its function iow it was defective. dc 0 dealer 3 dealer acts as dc representitive dc retains score. dc also cause of failure with defective parts score canceled. lol feel free to hide behind the legal definition of a lemon. lets just say that the dealer probably knew that this particular vehicle was going to have a lot of problems. i assume then that the dealer had a crystal ball and looked up this trucks vin to find that out how could a dealer know that it would have multiple problems particularly when the problems are all unrelated except for owner handling why would the dealer say what he did it would be better to instill confidence in the buyer not give warnings. i would suspect that this dealer was getting many of this particular vehicles in for excessive warranty work and figured that this would just

From : tbone

help is the only way to put it i have a 1990 d 150 the windowwiper rod that attaches to the motor boke off what i need help on is how do u get the wipers off thanks alot for the help have to go to work to day and its raining because if that dennis lol .

From : tbone

maybe not in writing... -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. never called you that. a least not in writing on here. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. lol you call me that all of the time. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : bob m

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

on sat 09 jul 2005 194616 gmt greg surratt glsurratt@verizon.net wrote i bought my 99 ram new. after warranty expired 1. rwal sensor went bad would a bad rwal sensor cause the following symptoms 1 brake indicator lit on the dash. yes 2 abs indicator lit on the dash. yes 3 cruise control cuts out occasionally twice in about 100 miles this morning did not happen to me 4 speedometer operates normally. mine was erratic only operating at high speeds. 5 brakes appear to be operating normally - i havent had the opportunity to try any panic stops. yes i checked the abs fuse visual and it doesnt appear to be blown. i dont want to go buy a meter if i dont have to. i do not see a lot of alternatives to buying a code reader... other that stopping by places like autozone that offer you free code reading hoping to sell you parts. i .

From : max dodge

http//www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/results.cfm .

From : denny

denny wrote im just curious are there any other waste of time energy and money maintenance items that you dont believe in doing you do not take apart and or clean a carb or tbi unit because someone tells you it is dirty when the vehical runs fine. btw 99% of the time they might get dirty on outside but it has no effect of operation cleaning a tbi unit is not a normal maintance item that must be done like oil changes and such. i have seen a lot of people get screwed by mechs that tell that something is wrong that cost $$$$ to fix and puts money in mechs pocket too. i have seen this scam before you chastise me because i want him to save his money and his time and spend it on more worthwhile endevors. how about if you or someone else in this thread pay to get it done for him if you guys think he needs it so bad not chastising you at all just asking a question. i understand that outside dirt on the t/b will not cause a problem but i have seem numerous times where a throttle plate will stick due to a crud build up in the throat of the t/b. dirt build up will also cause a hesitation on accel or a stalling problem. classic case is the tb on the 2.9 ferds as seen in rangers b-iis and exploders when you drop the rear of the engine to get the upper bh bolts out all the crap inside the long inlet hose breaks loose and ends up in the ias control passages .

From : nosey

welcome to the funny farm gary. there are a couple of other garys here that post under different user-names. some of us will slip up and refer to them by name from time to time. if you see a post mentioning your name it may not be intended for you. this is a great source of information and it can also be entertaining. sometimes the discussions can get ugly so be prepared. -- ken .

From : max dodge

not only does dodge sell junk........they are killing people here we go more hogwash..... prove they sell junk. and i assume from your words that youve seen the hit squads leaving headquarters latest gen3 unlatching claims two lives daimlerchrysler denies safety problems daimlerchrysler has started a vigorous public relations campaign to deny safety problems with the gen3 seat belt buckle. furthermore they have begun issuing a statement to the media that the gen3 passes all federal safety standards. but federal regulations require that seat belt buckles be designed to minimize the possibility of accidental release and the gen-3 buckle does not minimize the possibility of accidental release prove it. where are you getting this crap two women were killed and a child seriously injured in a roll-over accident dec. 28 2002 near beeville texas. this brings the total number of deaths to 17 and serious injuries to 27 in accidents in which gen3 buckles are believed to have unlatched. a roll over accident and its not possible the driver did anything wrong http//www.unsafebelts.com/ i think we have an answer as to why this website thinks seatbelts are defective from the bottom of the linked page this website is sponsored by billy edwards and the edwards law firm l.l.p. p. o. box 480 corpus christi texas 78403-0480 results of cases vary for many reasons including the specific factual and legal circumstances. funny how the truth comes out. a lawyer will lie his ass off if it means money. looks like anyone gullible to just believe this site is a fucking twit. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. not only does dodge sell junk........they are killing people latest gen3 unlatching claims two lives daimlerchrysler denies safety problems daimlerchrysler has started a vigorous public relations campaign to deny safety problems with the gen3 seat belt buckle. furthermore they have begun issuing a statement to the media that the gen3 passes all federal safety standards. but federal regulations require that seat belt buckles be designed to minimize the possibility of accidental release and the gen-3 buckle does not minimize the possibility of accidental release two women were killed and a child seriously injured in a roll-over accident dec. 28 2002 near beeville texas. this brings the total number of deaths to 17 and serious injuries to 27 in accidents in which gen3 buckles are believed to have unlatched. http//www.unsafebelts.com/ .

From : justme

where would the electrical tap for the gauge be found well if youre going with a mechanical gauge then you just need the lighting which you can get right from the headlamp switch. find the dimmer line with a meter/test light turn parking lights on set dash dimmer to 1/2-way and look for 6v or a dim light on the test light. .

From : the guy

on sun 10 jul 2005 095221 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote hemidude03 @webtv.net says... agreed. worrying about mileage when you are driveing a truck i have never been able to follow. normally i would agree. before my my ram my 2000- dak suddenly dropped from 18 to 12 highway. when i inquired about it here i got falmmed because its a damn truck! what did you expect! i expect that something was wrong which there was. my ram is doing the same thing now 19 to 13 on the highway. i know less bout diesels this being my first one. im learning tho. i trimmed it so people wouldnt bitch you can get slammed any time for anything here. what was the solution to the daks problem regards the ram is that mt/towing what year what trans rears. roy .

From : tbone

on sun 10 jul 2005 042550 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. yep. i have had three. the first was a 1500 gasser. it pinged like hell but ran super. no other warranty problems. next was an 01 2500 diesel. never had a warranty issue with that one. now i have an 03 3500 diesel. best of the bunch. had the tach stop working it was a bad sending unit. big deal. no other warranty problems. all have been automatics. i have towed with all of them. no warranty problems so far with the trannys. of course i keep up on the maintenance. keep the oil and filter changed every 3 to 5000 miles 3 on the old ones have gone as far as 5 on the new one but its heavy duty oil change cycle is listed at 7500 miles fuel filters every 7500 miles and have kept the tranny serviced. pretty cheap insurance. i also keep a decent coat of wax on the paint. a lot of the problems that i see and read about come on from poor upkeep or bombing. outside of that the didge have a tremendous repair record. .

From : tbone

and motor week has rated all jeep wrangler liberty and grand cherokee the top suvs out of all the auto makers. -- coasty sempar paratus always ready remove the spooge to reply justme wrote http//www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/ not you again! looking at jdpowers or edmunds the 2004 dodge ram 3/4 ton outscores both ford and chevy in almost all catagories for reliability. im sure if you look youll find similar websites for any auto manufacture. .

From : mike simmons

i supposed you figure the fucking twit service manager should have had his secretary blow you while you waited for the truck i kinda like this idea. takes customer service to a whole new level. hell it may even get more work in the shop. im with the rabbit on this. wtf is this dealer located roy denny .

From : mike simmons

i supposed you figure the fucking twit service manager should have had his secretary blow you while you waited for the truck i kinda like this idea. takes customer service to a whole new level. hell it may even get more work in the shop. denny .

From : max dodge

pretty much what i thought. what would it take to make an 04.5 perform like the 05 a controller swap a flash a bfh and a blowtorch what do those typically sell for around a grand... .

From : tbone

brake and hazard warning lights do not work have turn signals. this is a 2001 1500 van. .

From : coasty

hemidude03 @webtv.net says... well it looks like geekboy doesnt now what he is taking about and doesnt know much about trucks in general. he uses big words that he must have read in a dodge owners magazine and now all of the sudden he thinks hes a mechanical genious. i have owned trucks from the big 3 dodge ford and chevy.... my opinion the chevy trucks are the best all around yes i admit that the styling is getting a littledated but i still think they have the other two beat. ford i have nothing aginst but my opinion if you are gonna buy a big truck look a like just buy the f-250 and have it over with i like the new ford body style better than the last feminine looking 1997 to 2004 trucks. but thats not saying much. but as far as fuel economy goes the bulky ford is nick n tuck with the dodge. chevy= better performance fuel economy and bang for your buck in my opinion. i have a hemi and its claim of 345 hp....is a joke.....i bet if you put it on a dyno it wouldnt hit 150 hp. poor fuel economy with sucky performance.. i think the dodge designers need to go back to school. html body bgcolor=blacktext=white p align=center embed img src=http//www.angelfire.com/rock/cooper/skyline.gif /body /html well my supposedly weak hemi stomps all over my last truck a 295 hp sierra z71 ext cab with 3.73 gears. the ram weighs about 400 pounds more and beats it by at least .25 seconds in a drag race. launching it is very difficult as the rear bounces around or it smokes the hell out of the tires. the gm trucks have the trans and computer set up so that wheelspin is pretty difficult. just punch it and go.. its much stronger than the gm 5.3 and they arent bad. i would take a 5.3 over the 5.9 dodge any day and i owned three vehicles with them. you must not have driven an f150 yet now thats on the weak side. wait a second. i had a f-150 and it was damn quick. it did say lightning on the front fenders though.g well now thats a little different. a neighbor bought a new 04 f150 almost the day they came out and its slow. the 5.4 is not all that great. we traded trucks one morning and he really liked mine. i liked his too it was just..slow. they are a little anemic. but they seem to last. unless they blow a spark plug out of the head. i dont really understand whats going on to make it do that. that was a problem that was corrected in the 03-04 truck. as i understand it the added more threads to the head .. most hemis dyno at about 260-275 at the rear wheels and that means 345 hp is about right. if the hemi had the nissan titans trans set up you would be amazed.. so the hemi has 20 more hp that the 05 cummins 610 hp yeah but a lot less torque and torque is what makes the wheels go round... i had a 79 trans am with the olds 403 in it. stock it was weak but after a cam kit headers intake heads ported 455 ones and a recurved distributor it was a torque junkies dream car. it had throttle response unlike anything i have ever had before or since. another insane thing was the gears it had stock it had a 2.41 posi! after the engine work i could smoke the tires as long as i wanted to and after i found a disc braked rear from another car with 3.23 it was amazing as long as you were very light footed or the tires spun. mileage wasnt bad 14 around town and almost 20 on the highway. it was a very scary car to drive when it was raining i got it out of shape a couple of times just by getting on the gas a touch too much. some of it was the 70 sized tires but the speed it ran on the top end of the drag strip showed it was doing fine in the power department. but that throttle hit...my mother drove it once and it scared the crap out of her! that was the point i was trying to make further down in this thread. that the torque prduced by my 05 610 with 410s requires a light touch of go pedal on dry roads and in the wet a very very light touch. i havent driven one since 00 or maybe 99 and there was enough turbo lag that spinning them accidentally wasnt much of a risk. i stupidly sold it and still miss it. it was totally reliable except for a mysterious case of vapor lock hot weather surging and popping that turned out to be a corked up fuel line. when they started putting injector cleaner in the gas it solved it after a year + of trying to cure it and a lot of $$$$. i know the feeling the cars we never should have sold. i guess for me it would be a toss up. many many years ago a 69 camaro with a 427 in it. had 433s in it the torque was about unmanageble. made for a hell of a street racer though. recently a vette z06. i guess the z06 was more practical in that you could do more with it but for pure rush id have to go with the camaro. the first car i ever drove at 14 around the block was a 69 or 70 hurst olds. my moms car was being worked on and they gave it to us as a loner for a week. my dad told me

From : tbone

thanks for the information it looks like the fuel line from the lift pump to the filter could be tapped with a barbed t fitting and line run into the cab. i dont have any problems with a diesel line into the cab a gasoline line would be another story. i imagine the gauge could be mounted nest to the brake controler. where would the electrical tap for the gauge be found de on sun 10 jul 2005 021114 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote get a shop manual any suggestions. any maintance tips/suggestions appreciated. hows the dual battery setup work your biggest problem will be the potential for injector pump failure because of lift pump failure. the lift pumps on these engines are notorious for failing starving the injection pump of fuel which it uses for lubrication and causing a rather expensive repair. get a fuel pressure gauge genos garage http//www.genosgarage.com has the necessary gauge connecting hose etc. so you can monitor your fuel pressure. id recommend an electric gauge westach makes one as does autometer which is what i have as it makes the installation easier the sending unit stays in the engine compartment so you dont have to mess with fuel into the cab or an isolator unit. other than that - keep the fluids fresh use only good-quality oil and filters fleetguard stratapores also available from genos above and above all... wave to the ford and chevy drivers as you pass them on the hills ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : roy

welcome to the funny farm gary. there are a couple of other garys here that post under different user-names. some of us will slip up and refer to them by name from time to time. if you see a post mentioning your name it may not be intended for you. this is a great source of information and it can also be entertaining. sometimes the discussions can get ugly so be prepared. ugly thats putting it mildly roy ken .

From : denny

max dodge wrote congrats on the truck. those cummins engines are great! i recommend you frequent the http//www.dieseltruckresource.com/ site and http//www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/ and i recommend ya take any and all info on those sites with a grain of salt before carefully confirming its legitimacy. did you get bad information there max dont you think you should have mentioned this group as well clay .

From : max dodge

congrats on the truck. those cummins engines are great! i recommend you frequent the http//www.dieseltruckresource.com/ site and http//www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/ and i recommend ya take any and all info on those sites with a grain of salt before carefully confirming its legitimacy. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. de wrote been reading here for a while and posted a while back regarding buying a ctd for heavy towing. i found a truck in the paper a 01 ho 6speed loaded like new with 30k on the odometer. paid 21k. after being high pressured at every dealers lot i walked on i hate that and driving a *lot* of different trucks this one seemed like a find. obviously pampered and well maintained tight. had a gooseneck hitch installed and hooked/loaded up the 4horse and took it out ----what a torqe monster damn thing will pull any hill in any gear i want in the mountains mind you. puts the ol 454 to shame and it is a runner. put a solid ton in the box and hardly knew it was there on the highway at any speed. not real fun for errands in town will keep the chevy for that. so how did i do no remorse here ive read the owners manual and would like to get a shop manual any suggestions. any maintance tips/suggestions appreciated. hows the dual battery setup work regards de ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- congrats on the truck. those cummins engines are great! i recommend you frequent the http//www.dieseltruckresource.com/ site and http//www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/ clay .

From : max dodge

i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. jeez i guess you think hes stretching the truth a bit too watch it youll be a fucking twit along with me. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i doubt that you are trying to post lies but some of that crap is really a stretch to think that it happens all that often. with what you described as your problems i can see why you would be bitter about both the vehicle and the make and buy into the worst possible descriptions but my last two dc vehicles were and are just fine. not problem free but no worse than any other make. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yeah...........i have nothing better to do than post lies to groups...........fucking twit. .

From : justme

de wrote been reading here for a while and posted a while back regarding buying a ctd for heavy towing. i found a truck in the paper a 01 ho 6speed loaded like new with 30k on the odometer. paid 21k. after being high pressured at every dealers lot i walked on i hate that and driving a *lot* of different trucks this one seemed like a find. obviously pampered and well maintained tight. had a gooseneck hitch installed and hooked/loaded up the 4horse and took it out ----what a torqe monster damn thing will pull any hill in any gear i want in the mountains mind you. puts the ol 454 to shame and it is a runner. put a solid ton in the box and hardly knew it was there on the highway at any speed. not real fun for errands in town will keep the chevy for that. so how did i do no remorse here ive read the owners manual and would like to get a shop manual any suggestions. any maintance tips/suggestions appreciated. hows the dual battery setup work regards de ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- congrats on the truck. those cummins engines are great! i recommend you frequent the http//www.dieseltruckresource.com/ site and http//www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/ clay .

From : tbone

yeah...........i have nothing better to do than post lies to groups...........fucking twit. .

From : greg surratt

well this past week i have been smelling the odor of gas especially after fill up. i could not see anything checked all the obvious stuff. today i was crawling under the ram and found some staining near the top of the tank. i got a mirror and much to my surprise there was gas sitting on the top of the fuel pump. it appeared to be coming out from under the pressure regulator. well dropped the tank and yep the gasket was bad. now one would think you would be able to buy just the parts you need to rebuild it that is a big nope. went down to the parts place and ordered one $230.00 all said and done. they did not have one but it will be hear tomorrow at 11am. i stop by the dealer and they have one on the shelf for $490.00 i can wait a day. just for giggles i asked how much if they did the job they told me $850.00 i said thank you and went on my merry way. -- coasty sempar paratus always ready remove the spooge to reply .

From : max dodge

what could the dent in the tailgate have to do with all that a dented tailgate nothing. however you might have also hit something with the rear axle and damaged the wiring to the speed sensor. check out the wiring and connector that goes to the sensor on the top of the rear differential. i agree could be the speed sensor. watch out when trying to remove it breaks easily and pain in the arse to remove if you break it. .

From : greg surratt

thanks max. i guess ill have to stare at the lights until i get back home in a couple of weeks and hope nothing else goes wrong with it. im out of town and dont have time to work on it right now. greg could do any one of those -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i bought my 99 ram new. after warranty expired 1. rwal sensor went bad would a bad rwal sensor cause the following symptoms 1 brake indicator lit on the dash. 2 abs indicator lit on the dash. 3 cruise control cuts out occasionally twice in about 100 miles this morning 4 speedometer operates normally. 5 brakes appear to be operating normally - i havent had the opportunity to try any panic stops. i checked the abs fuse visual and it doesnt appear to be blown. i dont want to go buy a meter if i dont have to. thanks greg .

From : bob

embed img src=http//www.angelfire.com/rock/cooper/skyline.gif /body /html well my supposedly weak hemi stomps all over my last truck a 295 hp sierra z71 ext cab with 3.73 gears. the ram weighs about 400 pounds more and beats it by at least .25 seconds in a drag race. launching it is very difficult as the rear bounces around or it smokes the hell out of the tires. the gm trucks have the trans and computer set up so that wheelspin is pretty difficult. just punch it and go.. its much stronger than the gm 5.3 and they arent bad. i would take a 5.3 over the 5.9 dodge any day and i owned three vehicles with them. you must not have driven an f150 yet now thats on the weak side. wait a second. i had a f-150 and it was damn quick. it did say lightning on the front fenders though.g most hemis dyno at about 260-275 at the rear wheels and that means 345 hp is about right. if the hemi had the nissan titans trans set up you would be amazed.. so the hemi has 20 more hp that the 05 cummins 610 the only real thing i liked more on the sierra was the gas mileage and thats still not a big deal.. what rear gears are in the hemi roy bdk .

From : max dodge

snoman wrote wrote had my 2001 ram 5.9l in for some work and the dealer gave the usual list of things i need to pay them for! they said the throttle body needs to be cleaned. their charge is $200. they said its that high because they remove it for cleaning. truck has 66k on it and runs fine. is this something that needs to be done routinely and does it really take that much labor if it aint broke do not fix it. with todays better quality gasses cleaning it rarely a issue. dirt of the outside means little if anything to the inside of a tbi unit. i have one with 173k on it that is 16 years old and it has never been cleaned and it still does not need it either. i clean mine every so often. if you look down the bores you can see where the dirt collects. it disrupts the air flow at lowq rpms and idle and probably has no effect at speed. when you take it apart youll find dirt baked in to a lot of small passages. that cant be good. it doesnt take long about an hour if you dont really know what youre doing. the quality of todays fuels have nothing to do with as theres no fuel anywhere near it. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : bdk

lemoncoke wrote i have a 2001 durango and am pulling a trailer and the truck is running really hot. the electric fan turns on as soon as you start it could this be the problem or is it something else i noticed it runs hotter when i drive at 65 or 70 than it does when i go 55 or 60 any suggestions please help. the durango is a 5.9 l the first time it did it it lost some coolant but i refilled it. when not pulling trailer it runs normal the fan seem to be a problem but dont know the electric fan comes on when one of two things happen. when the temp is too high. or when the ac compressor is running. with the engine cold turn off the ac and make sure its not set to defrost. turn the engine on. if the fan comes on then the computer probably thinks the engine is hot. probably a bad sensor. get another temp gauge and install it temporarily. you want to make sure your factory gauge is reading correctly. have the coolant checked for products of combustion. its the only reliable way to test for a blown head gasket or cracked head. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : ignoramus3635

justme wrote this is the first time ive posted here.........so i dont know where the not you again is coming from. heres my experience with a dodge dakota i bought new in 99. before the warranty 60000km expired 1. paint peeled off front bumper. 2. seals in a/c were replaced. 3. transmission shift linkage replaced. 4. front upper ball joints replaced. dealer told me it would take awhile to get all the bugs out. after the warranty had expired 1. battery replaced 4 years old 2. waterpump 3. both wheel bearings. 4. y pipe on exhaust. 5. cruise control stopped working 6. front rear seal on transmission 7.flimsy dodge box liner warps when sun shines on it. 8. transmission pan rusted out. 9. transfer case leaking fluid. 10. seat belts wont retract. ive done the recommended maintenace on this lemon since day one. i use this truck to travel to work and have never had it off road. the few times ive used it to go on a trip never over 1000km something major has gone wrong. not sure i believe this web site. i could write the same thing about toyota or ford. it may be true but im not yet convinced. i purchased a 95 ram new in 94. warrenty repairs 0 out of warrenty repairs 0 rountine maint only i traded it in at 85k miles for a new 01 dakota qc on 00 warrenty repairs 0 out of warrenty repairs 0 routine maint only. now at 70k miles and going strong. thats been my personal experiance with dodge. would i buy another new new dakots no but only because i dont like the new styling or engine choices. i like my 5.9 magnum so ill keep it until it dies and then rebuild it. if my truck were to be destroyed in an accident or stolen id be at the dodge dealer the next day looking for another one. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project . 222 302761 i2tze.789$ao6.390@trnddc05 before the warranty 60000km expired 1. paint peeled off front bumper. im calling bs here. paint and body are covered for 12k only. if you got it fixed under warranty thats a good thing and commendable action on dcs part. 2. seals in a/c were replaced. so 3. transmission shift linkage replaced. more bs. exactly how did it get broken this is a dealer prep check item if it broke you broke it. 4. front upper ball joints replaced. finally an issue that is real. and they replaced them under warranty. sounds like everything went right on this issue. dealer told me it would take awhile to get all the bugs out. and thats possible as it is with all mechanical devices. after the warranty had expired 1. battery replaced 4 years old normal wear item at 4 years so friggin what 2. waterpump so its not unheard of at 60k plus. 3. both wheel bearings. both which ones were they maintained properly 4. y pipe on exhaust. i smell abuse of vehicle..... 5. cruise control stopped working electronics fail anytime they want. 6. front rear seal on transmission what you called it does not exist. normal seepage is not a leak. how bad was it 7.flimsy dodge box liner warps when sun shines on it. so get a real one. dodge didnt design nor manufacture the box liner. its not a dc issue. 8. transmission pan rusted out. bullshit. 9. transfer case leaking fluid. normal seepage or draining on the ground 10. seat belts wont retract. and theres no user problems there ive done the recommended maintenace on this lemon since day one. i use this truck to travel to work and have never had it off road. the few times ive used it to go on a trip never over 1000km something major has gone wrong. i think you are full of shit. your list screams of someone being too picky while abusing the vehicle. at least one problem couldnt happen. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. this is the first time ive posted here.........so i dont know where the not you again is coming from. heres my experience with a dodge dakota i bought new in 99. before the warranty 60000km expired 1. paint peeled off front bumper. 2. seals in a/c were replaced. 3. transmission shift linkage replaced. 4. front upper ball joints replaced. dealer told me it would take awhile to get all the bugs out. after the warranty had expired 1. battery replaced 4 years old 2. waterpump 3. both wheel bearings. 4. y pipe on exhaust. 5. cruise control stopped working 6. front rear seal on transmission 7.flimsy dodge box liner warps when sun shines on it. 8. transmission pan rusted out. 9. transfer case leaking fluid. 10. seat belts wont retract. ive done the recommended maintenace on this lemon since day one. i use this truck to travel to work and have never had it off road. the few times ive used it to go on a trip never over 1000km something major has gone wrong

From : geekboy

on sat 9 jul 2005 085821 -0500 sillysam sillysam@hotmail.com wrote i backed into my tractor with my 2000 dodge ram 1500. put a dent in the tailgate but it works ok. later i noticed that the abs light was on and the brake light was on. i drove about 10 miles and the speedometer quit working. what could the dent in the tailgate have to do with all that i took the battery loose for a bit and put it back on and the lights still stay on. any suggsetion or solutions i had similar symptoms quite recently. abs and brake light on and speedometer working only at high speeds. you can check your engine code with a code reader for more definitive diagnosis. in my instance it was a bad rwal rear wheel antilock speed sensor. replacing it took care of the problem. i bought my replacement online. i .

From : justme

this is the first time ive posted here.........so i dont know where the not you again is coming from. heres my experience with a dodge dakota i bought new in 99. before the warranty 60000km expired 1. paint peeled off front bumper. 2. seals in a/c were replaced. 3. transmission shift linkage replaced. 4. front upper ball joints replaced. dealer told me it would take awhile to get all the bugs out. i bought a 99 ram new. here are my problems before warranty expired 1. nothing after warranty 1. flat tire after the warranty had expired 1. battery replaced 4 years old 2. waterpump 3. both wheel bearings. 4. y pipe on exhaust. 5. cruise control stopped working 6. front rear seal on transmission 7.flimsy dodge box liner warps when sun shines on it. 8. transmission pan rusted out. 9. transfer case leaking fluid. 10. seat belts wont retract. ive done the recommended maintenace on this lemon since day one. i use this truck to travel to work and have never had it off road. the few times ive used it to go on a trip never over 1000km something major has gone wrong. .

From : miles

on sat 09 jul 2005 064352 -0700 miles nospam@noemail.com wrote hemi dude wrote well it looks like geekboy doesnt now what he is taking about and doesnt know much about trucks in general. he uses big words that he must have read in a dodge owners magazine and now all of the sudden he thinks hes a mechanical genious. i have owned trucks from the big 3 dodge ford and chevy.... my opinion the chevy trucks are the best all around yes i admit that the styling is getting a littledated but i still think they have the other two beat. ford i have nothing aginst but my opinion if you are gonna buy a big truck look a like just buy the f-250 and have it over with i like the new ford body style better than the last feminine looking 1997 to 2004 trucks. but thats not saying much. but as far as fuel economy goes the bulky ford is nick n tuck with the dodge. chevy= better performance fuel economy and bang for your buck in my opinion. i have a hemi and its claim of 345 hp....is a joke.....i bet if you put it on a dyno it wouldnt hit 150 hp. poor fuel economy with sucky performance.. i think the dodge designers need to go back to school. i have a 2001 ram 5.9l and a 2004 durango hemi 5.7l. the durango will run circles around my ram. when i pull my 5000lb trailer again the difference is night and day. the hemi is far stronger than the 5.9l. it depends on what people compare it to. its not a ctd. and its also not the hemi of the muscle car days just has the name.. if folks are expecting this engine to perform like the real hemi did theyre going to be real disappointed.. ymmv mac please remove splinters before emailing .