An Election Message that we can all probably agree on
From : tbone
Q: this is a multi-part message in mime format. ------=nextpart000002801c48c3e.5272e920 content-type text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat!=20 =20 keep it going!!!!=20 =20 =20 2004 election issue!!=20 =20 =20 get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec.=20 =20 this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going.=20 =20 ----------------------------------=20 =20 social security=20 =20 this is worth reading. it is short and to the point.=20 =20 perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. !=20 =20 our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of = course they do not collect from it.=20 =20 you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of = their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special = plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own=20 benefit plan.=20 =20 in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change = it. after all it is a great plan.=20 =20 for all practical purposes their plan works like this=20 =20 when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die.=20 =20 except it may increase from time to time for cost of living = adjustments..=20 =20 for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives = may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred = thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last = years of their lives.=20 =20 this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two = dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will = receive much more during the rest of their lives.=20 =20 their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch....=20 =20 this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and = i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement = plan come directly from the general funds;=20 =20 our tax dollars at work!=20 =20 from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid = into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our = employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after = retirement.=20 =20 or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 = monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill = bradleys benefits!=20 =20 social security could be very good if only one small change were = made.=20 =20 that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan = from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social = security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch = how fast they would fix it.=20 =20if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be = planted and maybe good changes will evolve.=20 =20 =20 how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many = people will you send this to=20 --=20 if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000002801c48c3e.5272e920 content-type text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=3dcontent-type content=3dtext/html; = charset=3diso-8859-1 meta content=3dmshtml 6.00.2800.1400 name=3dgenerator style/style /head body bgcolor=3d#ffffff div didnt write this but it is a good point. divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2 /div div>it doesnt matter if you are republican=20 or democrat! /div div/div div> /div div/div div>keep it going!!!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>2004 election issue!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>get a bill started to place=20 all politicians on soc. sec. /div div/div div> /div div/div div> this must be an issue in 2004. = please! keep=20 it going. /div div/div div> /div div/div div>---------------------------------- /div div/div div> /div div/div div>social security /div div/div div> /div div/div div>this is worth reading. it is short and to=20 the point. /div div/div div> /div div/div div>perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during = election=20 years. ! /div div/div div> /div div/div div>our senators and congresswomen do not pay into = social=20 security and of course they do not collect from it. /div div/div div> /div div/div div>you see social security benefits were not suitable = for=20 persons&nb
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From : budd cochran
ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta content=mshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=generator style/style /head body bgcolor=#ffffff divfont face=arial size=2dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping/font/div divfont face=arial size=2a dependency constituency./font/div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div div /div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div blockquote dir=ltr style=padding-right 0px; padding-left 5px; margin-left 5px; border-left #000000 2px solid; margin-right 0px divtbone <a href=mailtot-bonenospam@nc.rr.comt-bonenospam@nc.rr.com/a > xc.3112$uq1.314620@twister.southeast.rr.com/a.../div div didnt write this but it is a good point. divfont face=arial size=2/font /div divfont face=arial size=2 /div div>it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! /div div/div div> /div div/div div>keep it going!!!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>2004 election issue!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. /div div/
From : joe
damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta content=mshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=generator style/style /head body bgcolor=#ffffff divfont face=arial size=2dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping/font/div divfont face=arial size=2a dependency constituency./font/div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div div /div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div blockquote dir=ltr style=padding-right 0px; padding-left 5px; margin-left 5px; border-left #000000 2px solid; margin-right 0px divtbone <a href=mailtot-bonenospam@nc.rr.comt-bonenospam@nc.rr.com/a > xc
From : mac davis
on 28 aug 2004 140134 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote i think part of the problem since those days is the nature of the officials joe.. in those days if your neighbors talked you into running for office and you won you served a term or 2 and went back to running your plantation or business or whatever you did for a living.. somewhere since then weve developed a new occupation called politician which automatically removes most candidates from experiencing what the rest of us call real life.. damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta content=mshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=generator style/style
From : joe
youre right on the money mac. things are way out of control now. i wonder when the general public will get fed up enough to actually do something about this. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote in on 28 aug 2004 140134 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote i think part of the problem since those days is the nature of the officials joe.. in those days if your neighbors talked you into running for office and you won you served a term or 2 and went back to running your plantation or business or whatever you did for a living.. somewhere since then weve developed a new occupation called politician which automatically removes most candidates from experiencing what the rest of us call real life.. damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to
From : moe
bam wrote 1998 dodge ram 1500 5.9l 94000 miles lately about twice a week when i start off in the morning my truck runs rough it hesitates surges pops through the carb. no power. shutting off the engine and restarting clears the problem. ive bought it in to my mechanic twice and he indicates that no codes were recorded. any ideas im sorry but i dont have a fix. i had an 87 ford ranger that did the same thing. 16 times into the dealer and ford never could figure it out. i havent bought a ford since. good luck and please post the fix if it does get fixed. bob -- takeoff is an option. landing is a must! and in the end on wheels we will depend. . 222 288400 cgo313$vvh$0@pita.alt.net this is a multi-part message in mime format. ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 content-type text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point.=20 it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat!=20 =20 keep it going!!!!=20 =20 =20 2004 election issue!!=20 =20 =20 get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec.=20 =20 this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going.=20 =20 ----------------------------------=20 =20 social security=20 =20 this is worth reading. it is short and to the point.=20 =20 perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. !=20 =20 our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and = of course they do not collect from it.=20 =20 you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of = their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special = plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own=20 benefit plan.=20 =20 in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change = it. after all it is a great plan.=20 =20 for all practical purposes their plan works like this=20 =20 when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they = die.=20 =20 except it may increase from time to time for cost of living = adjustments..=20 =20 for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their = wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million = eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 = during the last years of their lives.=20 =20 this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two = dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will = receive much more during the rest of their lives.=20 =20 their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch....=20 =20 this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you = and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement = plan come directly from the general funds;=20 =20 our tax dollars at work!=20 =20 from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have = paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by = our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month = after retirement.=20 =20 or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 = monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill = bradleys benefits!=20 =20 social security could be very good if only one small change were = made.=20 =20 that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan = from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social = security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch = how fast they would fix it.=20 =20 if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be = planted and maybe good changes will evolve.=20 =20 =20 how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many = people will you send this to=20 --=20 if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 content-type text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 content-transfer-encoding quoted-printable !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=3dcontent-type content=3dtext/html; = charset=3diso-8859-1 meta content=3dmshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=3dgenerator style/style /head body bgcolor=3d#ffffff divfont face=3darial size=3d2dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for = decades. they prefer keeping/font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2a dependency constituency./font/div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div div /div divfont face=3darial size=3d2/font /div blockquote dir=3dltr=20 style=3dpadding-right 0px; padding-left 5px; margin-left 5px; = border-left #000000 2px solid; margin-right 0px divtbone <a=20 href=3dmailtot-bonenospam@nc.rr.comt-bonenospam@nc.rr.com/a> = wrote in=20 message a=20 = 112$uq1.314620@twister.southeast.r
From : dddd
its too late for any change. money rules - and money rules the elections. every politician has been bought by special interests and there is so much money involved that there is no possibility of a majority of honest individuals being elected. i have given up hope and will not vote in this novembers election. a moron is running against an idiot. you can place either name on either candidate. i see no real difference between them as far as the good of the country is concerned. both will continue to ruin it - just in different ways. dddd youre right on the money mac. things are way out of control now. i wonder when the general public will get fed up enough to actually do something about this. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote in on 28 aug 2004 140134 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote i think part of the problem since those days is the nature of the officials joe.. in those days if your neighbors talked you into running for office and you won you served a term or 2 and went back to running your plantation or business or whatever you did for a living.. somewhere since then weve developed a new occupation called politician which automatically removes most candidates from experiencing what the rest of us call real life.. damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill
From : grumman581
joe wrote ... youre right on the money mac. things are way out of control now. i wonder when the general public will get fed up enough to actually do something about this. well apparently the democrats are aware that we are nearly fed up enough to do something about it... otherwise why would they keep trying to take away our 2nd amendment rights .
From : tbone
fair enough but then dont bitch about it afterwards. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving its too late for any change. money rules - and money rules the elections. every politician has been bought by special interests and there is so much money involved that there is no possibility of a majority of honest individuals being elected. i have given up hope and will not vote in this novembers election. a moron is running against an idiot. you can place either name on either candidate. i see no real difference between them as far as the good of the country is concerned. both will continue to ruin it - just in different ways. dddd youre right on the money mac. things are way out of control now. i wonder when the general public will get fed up enough to actually do something about this. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies mac davis mac.davis@comcast.net wrote in on 28 aug 2004 140134 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote i think part of the problem since those days is the nature of the officials joe.. in those days if your neighbors talked you into running for office and you won you served a term or 2 and went back to running your plantation or business or whatever you did for a living.. somewhere since then weve developed a new occupation called politician which automatically removes most candidates from experiencing what the rest of us call real life.. damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in othe
From : budd cochran
one big difference between then and now is back then the elected officials had to support themselves . . .there were few taxes at first. then mac hit it on the head as well. the positively worst thing to happen to the american form of government was the politician. budd damn straight. i think the status quo is from back in the days when this country was founded. our forefathers always held that they were basically above the rest of the common people so they entitled themselves to all kinds of wonderful perks. dont get me wrong i appreciate everything that is america. but they had absolutely no idea what that concept would turn into. at this point theyre pretty much all a bunch of pompous assholes imo. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies budd cochran mr-d150@citlinkspam.net wrote in ive said for over 30 years that we needed to have our elected officials working at minimum wages and 40 hours a week and to heck with this voting yourself a raise stuff. budd while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta content=mshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=generator style/style /head body bgcolor=#ffffff divfont face=arial size=2dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping/font/div divfont face=arial size=2a dependency constituency./font/div divfont face=arial size=2/fo
From : joe
while were talking about the gods up on capitol hill you can bet your ass that health care will continue to be an abomination in this country until these primadonnas go on the same plan as us plebians. since none of them deal with the day-to-day health care horror stories premiums and bureacuracy that we common folk do you know that neither party will do shit to solve our problems. joe black 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc calypso green 93 mustang 5.0 lx hatch with a few goodies moe dummocrats@leftiefruits.org wrote in dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping a dependency constituency. didnt write this but it is a good point. it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! keep it going!!!! 2004 election issue!! get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. ---------------------------------- social security this is worth reading. it is short and to the point. perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. ! our senators and congresswomen do not pay into social security and of course they do not collect from it. you see social security benefits were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society. they felt they should have a special plan for themselves. so many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. in more recent years no congressperson has felt the need to change it. after all it is a great plan. for all practical purposes their plan works like this when they retire they continue to draw the same pay until they die. except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.. for example former senator byrd and congressman white and their wives may expect to draw $7800000.00 thats seven million eight-hundred thousand dollars with their wives drawing $275000.00 during the last years of their lives. this is calculated on an average life span for each of those two dignitaries. younger dignitaries who retire at an early age will receive much more during the rest of their lives. their cost for this excellent plan is $0.00. nada....zilch.... this little perk they voted for themselves is free to them. you and i pick up the tab for this plan. the funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the general funds; our tax dollars at work! from our own social security plan which you and i pay or have paid into-every payday until we retire which amount is matched by our employer-we can expect to get an average of $1000 per month after retirement. or in other words we would have to collect our average of $1000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one 1 month to equal senator! bill bradleys benefits! social security could be very good if only one small change were made. that change would be to jerk the golden fleece retirement plan from under the senators and congressmen. put them into the social security plan with the rest of us ..... then sit back..... and watch how fast they would fix it. if enough people receive this maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. how many people can you send this to better yet..... how many people will you send this to -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ------=nextpart000001f01c48c4c.eb5f21e0 !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en htmlhead meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta content=mshtml 6.00.2900.2180 name=generator style/style /head body bgcolor=#ffffff divfont face=arial size=2dumocrats have obstructed ss reform for decades. they prefer keeping/font/div divfont face=arial size=2a dependency constituency./font/div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div div /div divfont face=arial size=2/font /div blockquote dir=ltr style=padding-right 0px; padding-left 5px; margin-left 5px; border-left #000000 2px solid; margin-right 0px divtbone <a href=mailtot-bonenospam@nc.rr.comt-bonenospam@nc.rr.com/a > xc.3112$uq1.314620@twister.southeast.rr.com/a.../div div didnt write this but it is a good point. divfont face=arial size=2/font /div divfont face=arial size=2 /div div>it doesnt matter if you are republican or democrat! /div div/div div> /div div/div div>keep it going!!!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>2004 election issue!! /div div/div div> /div div/div div> /div div/div div>get a bill started to place all politicians on soc. sec. /div div/div div> /div div/div div> this must be an issue in 2004. please! keep it going. /div div/div div> /div div/div div>-------------