ATF question..it's just programing...nothing new

From : pop bunkle

Q: re atf question i called the place where i normally get my oil/lube job done and asked them about doing the transmission service for my 2000 ram van 3500/maxi. when i asked about the atf they used he said that they added a friction modifier to their standard atf. that made me a little leery so i wound up taking it to the dodge dealer. has anyone had this stuff used in their a/t is it ok bill ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// from gunbunny31@msn.com gunbunny31 dont do it! go to the dodge dealer and buy atf+4 snipped ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// most....dealer techs.... only know what they are told about or read about when it comes to transmissions. theyre programed. and the sad thing is........... they are a sub-program designed for programing. you know what they say about programing.... shit in.......shit out. pop bunkle suggests a tranny shop for your best info.... he wouldnt want to see you programed by a program like the program that programed the gunbunny pop bunkle wonders if that 31 on gunbunnies nic stands fer kills or vehicals worked on...or both this poster will self destruct...... after a 5th of crown royal....... oo l o .

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From : mike simmons

re atf question i called the place where i normally get my oil/lube job done and asked them about doing the transmission service for my 2000 ram van 3500/maxi. when i asked about the atf they used he said that they added a friction modifier to their standard atf. that made me a little leery so i wound up taking it to the dodge dealer. has anyone had this stuff used in their a/t is it ok bill ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// from gunbunny31@msn.com gunbunny31 dont do it! go to the dodge dealer and buy atf+4 snipped ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// most....dealer techs.... only know what they are told about or read about when it comes to transmissions. theyre programed. and the sad thing is........... they are a sub-program designed for programing. you know what they say about programing.... shit in.......shit out. pop bunkle suggests a tranny shop for your best info.... he wouldnt want to see you programed by a program like the program that programed the gunbunny pop bunkle wonders if that 31 on gunbunnies nic stands fer kills or vehicals worked on...or both pop at least gunbunny gave the gentleman the correct info unlike the advice you offer. gunbunny is absolutely correct in that chryco does not recommend use of any other fluid other than atf-4. there are several companies who make atf-4 and it is available aftermarket so the customer is not limited to only the dealer. regarding programming the engineers who designed the transmission have specified atf-4. are you presuming to have superior programming than them hmmmmm chryco service manager member sae this poster will self destruct...... after a 5th of crown royal....... oo l o .

From : scrib abell

.. .. .. .. .. from gunbunny31@msn.com gunbunny31 dont do it! go to the dodge dealer and buy atf+4 snipped ////////////////////////////////////////////// most....dealer techs.... =a0only know what they are told about or read about when it comes to transmissions. theyre programed. and the sad thing is........... they are a sub-program designed for programing. you know what they say about programing.... shit in.......shit out. pop bunkle suggests a tranny shop for your best info.... he wouldnt want to see you programed by a program like the program that programed the gunbunny pop bunkle wonders if that 31 on gunbunnies nic stands fer kills or vehicals worked on...or both mikesim@fidnet.com mike=a0simmons wrote....... pop at least gunbunny gave the gentleman the correct info unlike the advice you offer. gunbunny is absolutely correct in that chryco does not recommend use of any other fluid other than atf-4 there are several companies who make atf-4 and it is available aftermarket so the customer is not limited to only the dealer. regarding programming the engineers who designed the transmission have specified atf-4. are you presuming to have superior programming than them hmmmmm chryco service manager member sae scrib abell writes..... mike what was incorrect about telling him to go to a tranny shop you stated ....that the gunslinger was correct in telling him that chryco does not recomend any other fluid. then you stated.... that there are several aftermarket varieties available. now....... with all that wisdom of yers.......tell me why he would have to go to the dealer if.........there were aftermarket solutions..... as you stated........you being the one with the title chryco service manager. im kinda wondering myself...... why not go to a tranny shop if you are stating that the fluid is available aftermarket.....again....you being a chryco service manager. jest curious... to me it sounds like........ you just endorsed pop bunkles advice. you got me all screwed up..... scrib abell takes a sip of shroom juice to clear his thoughts .. this post will self destruct...... after a 5th of crown royal....... oo l o .

From : mike simmons

.. .. .. .. .. from gunbunny31@msn.com gunbunny31 dont do it! go to the dodge dealer and buy atf+4 snipped ////////////////////////////////////////////// most....dealer techs.... only know what they are told about or read about when it comes to transmissions. theyre programed. and the sad thing is........... they are a sub-program designed for programing. you know what they say about programing.... shit in.......shit out. pop bunkle suggests a tranny shop for your best info.... he wouldnt want to see you programed by a program like the program that programed the gunbunny pop bunkle wonders if that 31 on gunbunnies nic stands fer kills or vehicals worked on...or both mikesim@fidnet.com mike simmons wrote....... pop at least gunbunny gave the gentleman the correct info unlike the advice you offer. gunbunny is absolutely correct in that chryco does not recommend use of any other fluid other than atf-4 there are several companies who make atf-4 and it is available aftermarket so the customer is not limited to only the dealer. regarding programming the engineers who designed the transmission have specified atf-4. are you presuming to have superior programming than them hmmmmm chryco service manager member sae scrib abell writes..... mike what was incorrect about telling him to go to a tranny shop you stated ....that the gunslinger was correct in telling him that chryco does not recomend any other fluid. then you stated.... that there are several aftermarket varieties available. now....... with all that wisdom of yers.......tell me why he would have to go to the dealer if.........there were aftermarket solutions..... as you stated........you being the one with the title chryco service manager. im kinda wondering myself...... why not go to a tranny shop if you are stating that the fluid is available aftermarket.....again....you being a chryco service manager. jest curious... to me it sounds like........ you just endorsed pop bunkles advice. you got me all screwed up..... scrib abell takes a sip of shroom juice to clear his thoughts scrib i was objecting to the tone of pops post. gunbunny was offering the poster correct info and pops post indicated that he is programmed to know only chysler fluid. there are varying degrees of expertise/knowledge at independent transmission shops as many in this ng will attest. i was merely pointing out to pop that the gentleman with the query about atf can use gunbunnys advice since he cant go wrong with the fluid the factory recommends. pop implied by his post that an independent trans shop would be more knowledgable than the dealer and that aint necessarily so. pardon me for attempting to inject some civility into the discussion i shall now bow out and let you and the shroom juice dictate the content..... mike .. this post will self destruct...... after a 5th of crown royal....... oo l o .

From : wmhjroy

i missed the first part of this post. where can i get one of the scan tools you are talking about i see how you got to the ignition coil as the culprit from that article. my mind blanked out that paragraph when i read the final cause of the authors problem. so your right the scan tool would have picked up the problem right at first. i like this model because it comes in two version one for the palm pilot and one for the pc. palms are getting so cheap you could leave it in the glove box as did the writer of that article. thanks ray ray im still gonna get one of those scan tools it would have told me it was the coil not the injector. and its cool too...hehe on tue 14 oct 2003 054230 gmt nirodac nirodac@hotmail.com wrote glad to hear you fixed your problem so much for the after market scan tools. ray well turns out it was a bad coil pack and plugs they wanted 178.00 to install...lol. no thanks just give me the parts.on sun 12 oct 2003 141949 gmt toddd darinzo@optonline.net.invalid wrote now if i could just detrmine why the misfireing on the # 3 cylinder. ciolpackinjecteror bad plug intake manifold leak can definitely cause misfires .

From : roy

. . . i was objecting to the tone of pops post. gunbunny was offering the poster correct info and pops post indicated that he is programmed to know only chysler fluid. there are varying degrees of expertise/knowledge at independent transmission shops as many in this ng will attest. i was merely pointing out to pop that the gentleman with the query about atf can use gunbunnys advice since he cant go wrong with the fluid the factory recommends. pop implied by his post that an independent trans shop would be more knowledgable than the dealer and that aint necessarily so. pardon me for attempting to inject some civility into the discussion i shall now bow out and let you and the shroom juice dictate the content..... mike mike it would seem that a village lost a couple. do you recall nubbs whatever and some other name back a few months ago imo they resemble dd of about 8 months ago. style and prose are real close actually in places identical. roy .

From : gunbunny31

re atf question i called the place where i normally get my oil/lube job done and asked them about doing the transmission service for my 2000 ram van 3500/maxi. when i asked about the atf they used he said that they added a friction modifier to their standard atf. that made me a little leery so i wound up taking it to the dodge dealer. has anyone had this stuff used in their a/t is it ok bill ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// from gunbunny31@msn.com gunbunny31 dont do it! go to the dodge dealer and buy atf+4 snipped ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// most....dealer techs.... only know what they are told about or read about when it comes to transmissions. theyre programed. and the sad thing is........... they are a sub-program designed for programing. you know what they say about programing.... shit in.......shit out. pop bunkle suggests a tranny shop for your best info.... he wouldnt want to see you programed by a program like the program that programed the gunbunny pop bunkle wonders if that 31 on gunbunnies nic stands fer kills or vehicals worked on...or both sounds a little like some progaming going on here to. 1 i am not a dealer tech.... never have been. 2 never been to the dealer schools......so i havent heard any of the programing 3 i have seen a lot of fried transmissions i know enough to replace the atf+4 with the same or the job gets done again in a month or two. 4 i said before that chrysler isnt in bussiness to produce transmission fluid they build cars and parts. trany shops dont build tranys but chrysler does. if thier enginer says atf+4 then atf+4 it is. if i use the logic that a trany shop is right all the time then should i piss in it if that is what i am told to do. 5 the first 3 words in the trany mans bible is get the money. i know i read it all the time. thats where the programing is at. now having said all of that lets remember that i dont own the transmission. do what you want with it. i am just giving advice that i would follow. but be warned..... there are friction modifiers out there that just were not intended for a transmission. good luck finding the parts guy who knows the difference. they are out there they just know better than to work at autozone also keep in mind the old saying pay me a little now or lot later gunbunny .