ADVANTAGES OF WATER FUEL
From : virig
Q: apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices .
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From : miles
geekboy wrote water injection water injection is not whats being discussed here. hho is. hho is not water injection. its hydrogen injection. the only relation between the two is the use of water. .
From : geekboy
from what i have heard it does work. somehow the hho makes the gas burn better. the amish are converting their engines and say they are seeing savings in fuel. auto manufacturers trip over themselves to squeeze out a 1% fuel economy increase over their competition. if these things can improve that by 15-30% why arent they being offered on every vehicle sold out there 10 years ago everyone was all up in arms over the fuel savings of those stupid magnetic things on the fuel lines.... it aligns the molocules they said resulting in more efficient combustion and up to a 10% savings in fuel. yeah they didnt work either. water injection also known as anti-detonant injection is a method for cooling the combustion chambers of engines by adding water to the incoming fuel-air mixture allowing for greater compression ratios and largely eliminating the problem of engine knocking detonation. this effectively increases the octane rating of the fuel meaning that performance gains can be obtained when used in conjunction with a supercharger or turbocharger altered spark ignition timing and other modifications. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/waterinjectionengines .
From : nosey
i use caustic soda and caustic potash for making biodiesel. how is it used in the hho process -- ken i believe that it is added to the water to increase its conductivity. thats interesting. i hope they arent using any aluminum or glass components. i have a large aluminum drip pan under my processor stand. it catches all the veg oil drips and spills. when it gets nasty i use a solution of caustic soda and water to clean it up. the caustic saponifies the oil and etches the aluminum surface. the drip pan comes out looking like brand new but if its left on for too long it can eat through the aluminum. my glass containers slowly get frosted up from the caustic also. its not a big deal for short periods but continuous use might not be a good idea. -- ken .
From : beekeep
on tue 2 sep 2008 224830 -0400 nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote beekeep wrote on mon 01 sep 2008 140606 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. there is a company near my business that has been doing this for a few years. they have several converted trucks. they run on gas just as normal but supplement it with hydrogen derived from the water. supposedly increases mpg. ive seen their trucks drive by almost daily but have no idea if their claims are worth a crap. http//www.azfuelfromh2o.com/ i understand what tom wrote and by my own intuition i have my doubts since there has to be losses when making a fuel from another fuel and then burning the made fuel but knowing how friggin tight the amish are and they are using it there has to be something there. otoh having an explosive mixture of h an o in my truck doesnt seem to be the safest situation. judging by the number of amish that i have met with missing fingers etc. safety is seldom considered. they are using cautic soda in the hho generators and there is an amish store that bought a 55 gal drum and sells it unlabeled in quart jars! i use caustic soda and caustic potash for making biodiesel. how is it used in the hho process -- ken i believe that it is added to the water to increase its conductivity. beekeep .
From : nosey
beekeep wrote on mon 01 sep 2008 140606 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. there is a company near my business that has been doing this for a few years. they have several converted trucks. they run on gas just as normal but supplement it with hydrogen derived from the water. supposedly increases mpg. ive seen their trucks drive by almost daily but have no idea if their claims are worth a crap. http//www.azfuelfromh2o.com/ i understand what tom wrote and by my own intuition i have my doubts since there has to be losses when making a fuel from another fuel and then burning the made fuel but knowing how friggin tight the amish are and they are using it there has to be something there. otoh having an explosive mixture of h an o in my truck doesnt seem to be the safest situation. judging by the number of amish that i have met with missing fingers etc. safety is seldom considered. they are using cautic soda in the hho generators and there is an amish store that bought a 55 gal drum and sells it unlabeled in quart jars! i use caustic soda and caustic potash for making biodiesel. how is it used in the hho process -- ken .
From : beekeep
on mon 01 sep 2008 140606 -0700 miles nope@nopers.com wrote virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. there is a company near my business that has been doing this for a few years. they have several converted trucks. they run on gas just as normal but supplement it with hydrogen derived from the water. supposedly increases mpg. ive seen their trucks drive by almost daily but have no idea if their claims are worth a crap. http//www.azfuelfromh2o.com/ i understand what tom wrote and by my own intuition i have my doubts since there has to be losses when making a fuel from another fuel and then burning the made fuel but knowing how friggin tight the amish are and they are using it there has to be something there. otoh having an explosive mixture of h an o in my truck doesnt seem to be the safest situation. judging by the number of amish that i have met with missing fingers etc. safety is seldom considered. they are using cautic soda in the hho generators and there is an amish store that bought a 55 gal drum and sells it unlabeled in quart jars! beekeep .
From : miles
tom lawrence wrote auto manufacturers trip over themselves to squeeze out a 1% fuel economy increase over their competition. if these things can improve that by 15-30% why arent they being offered on every vehicle sold out there they cost $500-$1000 plus installation. they also require use of an additive that probably offsets the savings and requires owners attention frequently. not an easy sell even if it does work. .
From : miles
virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. there is a company near my business that has been doing this for a few years. they have several converted trucks. they run on gas just as normal but supplement it with hydrogen derived from the water. supposedly increases mpg. ive seen their trucks drive by almost daily but have no idea if their claims are worth a crap. http//www.azfuelfromh2o.com/ .
From : bryan
tom lawrence wrote 10 years ago everyone was all up in arms over the fuel savings of those stupid magnetic things on the fuel lines.... it aligns the molocules they said resulting in more efficient combustion and up to a 10% savings in fuel. the key wording is up to meaning zero to that amount. my favorite expression from madison avenue is up to or more than meaning zero to infinity! bryan .
From : tom lawrence
from what i have heard it does work. somehow the hho makes the gas burn better. the amish are converting their engines and say they are seeing savings in fuel. auto manufacturers trip over themselves to squeeze out a 1% fuel economy increase over their competition. if these things can improve that by 15-30% why arent they being offered on every vehicle sold out there 10 years ago everyone was all up in arms over the fuel savings of those stupid magnetic things on the fuel lines.... it aligns the molocules they said resulting in more efficient combustion and up to a 10% savings in fuel. yeah they didnt work either. .
From : beekeep
on fri 29 aug 2008 124310 +0000 christopher d. thompson nospam@nospam.nospam wrote on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! -- chris from what i have heard it does work. somehow the hho makes the gas burn better. the amish are converting their engines and say they are seeing savings in fuel. beekeep .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning denny exclaimed 8/29/2008 525 pm suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back jmc jodi you have some awesome pics!!! thanks for sharing!! i had to nose around your site a little bit looking at the castles and stuff. the places you have been are fantastic. no wonder you dont have time to bake cookies... bg denny hey! i didnt say you could look at the *rest* of the site!!! just kidding. glad you like it. in truth its horribly outdated - i think the most recent pics are from back in september or so. jmc .
From : denny
suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back jmc jodi you have some awesome pics!!! thanks for sharing!! i had to nose around your site a little bit looking at the castles. ya white castles.vbg roy always a smartass in the crowd... vbg so what do you have planned for the weekend....other than playing in your bath-tub... i think im going to put the hay equip back away. thought we might get a second cutting but its forgotten to rain since the first of july. then we got a night shoot saturday night might go to the kenton coondog trials on sunday goof off on monday. denny .
From : mac davis
on fri 29 aug 2008 124310 +0000 christopher d. thompson nospam@nospam.nospam wrote yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! sure they do if its frozen.. but the traction sucks.. mac please remove splinters before emailing .
From : roy
on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! well maybe it would work boats run on water. g roy chris .
From : christopher d thompson
on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! -- chris .
From : notme
| apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using | water as fuel. | http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices the most abundant elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. for once we have both in one post. .
From : roy
suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back jmc jodi you have some awesome pics!!! thanks for sharing!! i had to nose around your site a little bit looking at the castles. ya white castles.vbg roy and stuff. the places you have been are fantastic. no wonder you dont have time to bake cookies... bg denny .
From : denny
suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back jmc jodi you have some awesome pics!!! thanks for sharing!! i had to nose around your site a little bit looking at the castles and stuff. the places you have been are fantastic. no wonder you dont have time to bake cookies... bg denny .
From : roy
suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back hey jodi! thanks for posting the pics. pretty cool. roy jmc .
From : jmc
suddenly without warning christopher d. thompson exclaimed 8/29/2008 843 am on fri 29 aug 2008 010345 -0700 virig wrote apart from fuel savings there are many other advantages of using water as fuel. http//carwithwater.googlepages.com/waterfuelsolutionfuelprices yea you save tons of fuel because cars dont run on water! you aint kidding http//www.jodi.ws/australia/032401kingscanyon/kingscanyon.html an adventure we had some years back jmc .