A Christmas Story

From : stormin mormon

Q: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= mi5 bugging and counter-surveillance -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- po did you ever look for the bugs in your house if not why not i mean if po i thought that was happening to me id search the place from top to bottom po i mean i live there i would know if anything was out of place. if i was po really suspicious i would call in one of those bug detection teams which po have those machines that pick up the transmitted radio waves. this po reminds me of bugs that new programme on bbc1 on thats exactly what we did. we went to a competent professional detective agency in london paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. they used scanner devices which go to over 1 ghz and would pick up any nearby transmitter in that range they also checked the phones and found nothing... but if the tap was at the exchange then they wouldnt find anything would they cs doesnt this suggest to you that there are in fact no bugs to be found you can assume that theyve done this sort of thing to other people in more serious cases where they would know the targets would suspect the presence of electronic surveillance. so they will have developed techniques and devices which are not readily detectable either by visual inspection or by electronic means. what those techniques might be i couldnt guess. in this case the existence of bugging devices was clear from the beginning and they rubbed it in with what was said by the boy on the coach. it was almost as if they wanted counter-surveillance people to be called in who they knew would fail to detect the bugging devices causing loss of credibility to the other things i would have to say relating to the harassment. i did all the things someone in my situation would do to try to find the bugs. in addition to calling in professional help using electronic counter-surveillance i made a close visual inspection of electrical equipment plus any points where audio or video surveillance devices might have been concealed. of course i found nothing. normal surveillance mini-cameras are quite noticeable and require visible supporting circuitry. it seems to me the best place to put a small video surveillance device would be additional to a piece of electronic equipment such as a tv or video. it would be necessary to physically break in to a property to fit such a device. 218 -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

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From : dale yonz

heres another holiday joke heard it on howard stern three guys die just before christmas. they get to the gates of heaven and talk to st. peter. st. peter saids i will let you in heaven if you got anything on you that has something to do with christmas the first guy takes out his bic lighter flics it and says thats a christmas candle great st.peter says welcome to heaven the next guy comes up and st peter wants to know what he has. the poor guy thinks for awhile and reaches in his pocket pulls out his car keys jingles them and says those are sleigh bells great st peter says welcome to heaven. the third guy comes up to st. peter and reaches inside his jacket pulls out dirty stained ladies panties and holds them up in front of st. peters face. what the heck have those filthy underware got to do with christmas saint peter says. the guy smuckly replies they are carrolls stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote once upon a time very long ago santa was having a very bad christmas. the reindeers had gotten into the eggnog and got themselves quite drunk. rudolphs nose was bright red and the reindeer were tangled in their traces. then as santa was loading presents on to the sleigh the runner broke off one side and dumped all the presents into the snow. so santa called for the sleigh jack and jacked it up. nailed the runner back on. about that time the other runner fell off and dumped the presents into the snow on the other side. about this time the christmas angel came up to santa and reminded him that there was no christmas tree at the north pole for mrs. claus. santa had all he could handle so he told the christmas angel to just go out and find a good tree and everything would be ok. there sat poor santa with his head in his hands. no christmas tree... not enough gifts for boys and girls... the reindeer in no condition to pull the sleigh... and no sleigh to pull. everything had gone very wrong. suddenly the christmas angel returned dragging behind him a huge christmas tree.hey santa! i have your christmas tree. where do you want me to stick it ...and so began the tradition of the angel atop the christmas tree. .

From : dale yonz

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -= purpose in publicizing it; censorship in uk.* groups -= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= the postings to uk.misc group generated a very defensive reaction from usenet readers in the uk. so much so that they tried strenuously to suppress what was being said both by breaking the rules of netiquette in their responses on the forum and directly by action to revoke the account from which the postings were issued. yet the postings were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for uk.misc and other less partisan spectators did not see justice in the censorship which was effected as the following excerpt shows; karen lofstrom lofstrom@lava.net wrote it does seem that the frequency and the size of his posts are approaching net abuse. however imho they arent quite there yet. if his postmaster were to act in this instance it would raise troubling censorship issues. the inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected on the uk.* groups is that the british are intent on their wrongdoing remaining concealed and therefore seek to subvert and suppress freedom of speech not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias and bile against all perceived enemies within and without but also in other countries which have their own statutes to guarantee the basic human right of free speech. it is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the open where it can be placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen for what they are. that is the only way of making it impossible for the security services to carry it out. there is a wider dimension though. xenophobia as demonstrated by british people and institutions over the last few years belongs to the same stable as racial hatred. in one case two youths on a tube train made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a soft toy not up to british standards. doubtless others victimize partly on the basis of race isnt it odd that they chose to torment someone who is not ethnically english while expressing their abuse in terms of another genetic attribute namely mental illness. all xenophobia on a genetic basis is wrong but while racial insults are illegal abusing the mentally ill is neither against the law nor subject to similar condemnation when it is exposed. 218 -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .