'98 Dakota 4x4 Transmission Problem
From : michael brown
Q: i have a 98 dodge dakota 4x4 5.2l v8 automatic 55000 miles. as of late when the truck is cold its having some problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th during which time the engine revs. the dealer is telling me the transmission needs to be internally resealed. he said the seals are hardening making them stiffer when cold which results in letting the fluid get by keeping it from shifting. once the truck has warmed up all works fine. this should cost me about $1200 to $1500 at the dealer. i havent shopped around yet. but im wondering if this sounds like a reasonable explination common or frequent happening on this truck what causes this chrysler defect bad tranny fluid or bad seal material thanks mike .
Replies:
From : robbo
look up transmission problem in the dictionary and the definition simply says dodge period! my buddys dakota has nearly 200000 miles on it and about half that many trannys in it...of course he snowplows with it too. my tranny shifts erratic and had been doing so since 30k it now has 45k on it but still moves so hell with it some days when i hit the kickdown the truck just revs up and goes nowhere...fast. the damn 4x4 light blinks profusely too as mentioned before. i know when certain people here read my reply theyll bring on their brain-farts just as profusely as that blinking light annoys me. oh well have at it. i have a 98 dodge dakota 4x4 5.2l v8 automatic 55000 miles. as of late when the truck is cold its having some problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th during which time the engine revs. the dealer is telling me the transmission needs to be internally resealed. he said the seals are hardening making them stiffer when cold which results in letting the fluid get by keeping it from shifting. once the truck has warmed up all works fine. this should cost me about $1200 to $1500 at the dealer. i havent shopped around yet. but im wondering if this sounds like a reasonable explination common or frequent happening on this truck what causes this chrysler defect bad tranny fluid or bad seal material thanks mike .
From : pop bunkle
.. .. .. rob...... bo people like you....keep tranny techs in bonus money.... pop bunkle passes gas /////////////////////////////////////////////////////// re 98 dakota 4x4 transmission problem from robbo71@dreamscape.com robbo look up transmission problem in the dictionary and the definition simply says dodge period! my buddys dakota has nearly 200000 miles on it and about half that many trannys in it...of course he snowplows with it too. my tranny shifts erratic and had been doing so since 30k it now has 45k on it but still moves so hell with it some days when i hit the kickdown the truck just revs up and goes nowhere...fast. the damn 4x4 light blinks profusely too as mentioned before. i know when certain people here read my reply theyll bring on their brain-farts just as profusely as that blinking light annoys me. oh well have at it. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// i have a 98 dodge dakota 4x4 5.2l v8 automatic 55000 miles. as of late when the truck is cold its having some problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th during which time the engine revs. the dealer is telling me the transmission needs to be internally resealed. he said the seals are hardening making them stiffer when cold which results in letting the fluid get by keeping it from shifting. once the truck has warmed up all works fine. this should cost me about $1200 to $1500 at the dealer. i havent shopped around yet. but im wondering if this sounds like a reasonable explination common or frequent happening on this truck what causes this chrysler defect bad tranny fluid or bad seal material thanks mike /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// mike has the tranny been serviced regularly i have yet to see a dealer do one of those trannies for $1200 - $1500. more apt to be $2200 any whooo......... try letting the thing idle for about 10 minutes one morning before you take off in it..... see what happens. let us know pop bunkle .
From : redneck tookover hell
snowplowing with a dakota tells you about all you need to know about the poster and his buddy a hundred thousand transmissions i think youre exaggerating a little. -- budd cochran a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : budd cochran
yep. but its just not quite as dumb as plowing snow with a 91 s-10. -- budd cochran snowplowing with a dakota tells you about all you need to know about the poster and his buddy a hundred thousand transmissions i think youre exaggerating a little. -- budd cochran a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : twix
mike before you spend that kind of dough replace the throttle position sensor. its a $14 part attached tothe throttle body. i had the same problems. i have a different engine and tranny but it sounds like the problem i had. this is one of those problems with a simple fix that dc detroit is keeping quiet. i had my problem from 25k till dc detroit finnaly released this secret at 95k and about $2000 of troubleshooting costs to me. just something to check out... on thu 16 oct 2003 103641 -0500 michael brown mtb@sgi.com wrote i have a 98 dodge dakota 4x4 5.2l v8 automatic 55000 miles. as of late when the truck is cold its having some problems shifting from 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th during which time the engine revs. the dealer is telling me the transmission needs to be internally resealed. he said the seals are hardening making them stiffer when cold which results in letting the fluid get by keeping it from shifting. once the truck has warmed up all works fine. this should cost me about $1200 to $1500 at the dealer. i havent shopped around yet. but im wondering if this sounds like a reasonable explination common or frequent happening on this truck what causes this chrysler defect bad tranny fluid or bad seal material thanks mike .
From : robbo
snowplowing with a dakota tells you about all you need to know about the poster and his buddy a hundred thousand transmissions i think youre exaggerating a little. -- budd cochran actually it doesnt tell all you may need to know my buddys dakota is equipped with the 318 engine so its not lacking for power at all in fact the thing is pretty fast even with all the miles on it. as far as trannies go it had more like four put in and if anyone took 100000 seriously then that says a lot about that poster too imho. .
From : redneck tookover hell
must be a full moon last tps i replaced was $150 my cost on a cummins a secret lol yeah sure whatever replace the throttle position sensor. its a $14 part attached tothe throttle body. i had the same problems. this is one of those problems with a simple fix that dc detroit is keeping quiet. i had my problem from 25k till dc detroit finnaly released this secret at 95k and about $2000 of troubleshooting costs to me. just something to check out... a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : redneck tookover hell
your 2nd post is even more telling about you and your buddy actually it doesnt tell all you may need to know my buddys dakota is equipped with the 318 engine so its not lacking for power at all in fact the thing is pretty fast even with all the miles on it. as far as trannies go it had more like four put in and if anyone took 100000 seriously then that says a lot about that poster too imho. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : michael brown
thanks for the on topic reply twix. i was also seeing a 200 rpm jump every now and then when crusing down the highway so with that information the dealer did replaced the throttle position sensor $66 part + $60 labor. also had the transmission serviced first time serviced - yes i know that was overdue. this morning when i left for work i didnt get the shift delay or engine rev and driving home from the dealer last night no 200 rpm jump on the highway. ill give it a week and see what it does. mike .
From : budd cochran
they all think theyre the first one to abuse a transmission and no one is smart enough to see through it all. -- budd cochran i think budds post sums up you/your buddys problems pretty well so tell me about me id like to know! whats the matter liberace got your tongue a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : robbo
so tell me about me id like to know! whats the matter liberace got your tongue your 2nd post is even more telling about you and your buddy actually it doesnt tell all you may need to know my buddys dakota is equipped with the 318 engine so its not lacking for power at all in fact the thing is pretty fast even with all the miles on it. as far as trannies go it had more like four put in and if anyone took 100000 seriously then that says a lot about that poster too imho. a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : redneck tookover hell
i think budds post sums up you/your buddys problems pretty well so tell me about me id like to know! whats the matter liberace got your tongue a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : twix
maybe the part was a bit more than $14. didnt break my bank. i pulled out the receipt and i paid 22.50 for the tps. dealer told me that there was never a tsb or recall on the issue but after calling dc detroit for the 5th time they finally found the right part to replace. they had me reflash the tranny controller then the pcm. then we replaced the tranny controller then the pcm. i kept the old parts and sold the new ones back to the dealer for a restocking fee after i replaced the tps. dealer also told me that apparently dc detroit has been getting quite a few calls regarding this problem. i had the ruck into a dealer in va beach 2 in seattle 3 in denver and now 2 here in the amarillo area. my truck had a pretty constant engine surge every 9 seconds and idle speed was about 1500 rpm. truck didnt start kicking back codes untill about 85k. the codes indicated i was losing 7 of my fuel injectors and 5 of my sparkplugs.they did faulty ground troubleshooting for 3 hours and couldnt find anything there. because of the engine surges double shifting and high idle rpm i thrashed my rear diff u-joint. i havent had a return of the problem yet. make of that what you will redneck. and by the way... i am lysdexic! on 17 oct 2003 074328 gmt mopar440@aol.comedy.biz redneck tookover hell wrote must be a full moon last tps i replaced was $150 my cost on a cummins a secret lol yeah sure whatever replace the throttle position sensor. its a $14 part attached tothe throttle body. i had the same problems. this is one of those problems with a simple fix that dc detroit is keeping quiet. i had my problem from 25k till dc detroit finnaly released this secret at 95k and about $2000 of troubleshooting costs to me. just something to check out... a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : twix
there is no service bulletin for this. it strictly a call dc in detroit. it took 5 calls to them before i ended up with this solution. i had this problem for 60k miles before it started throwing out codes and then those codes indicated a fuel injector problem. i would be extremely careful not to buy new injecotrs when offered when you get multiple injecor faults. if it is the same problem it will continue to get worse untill the pcm will eventually shut the engine down while your driving. first the tps will begin sticking and you will only notice this on cold starts. then the tps will begin floating while idlling and finally at throttle. the pcm tries to compensate buy injecting either too much fuel or cutting back because the engine wont stay on its programmed power curve. one way to find out... i live in a small town now and this works here but some of the bigger dealer in denver where im from will to this to the dealer here is willing to put on a new part for a trial. if it works good. if not the dealer will buy it back minus a small restocking fee 20%. its actually the highest restocking fee ive ever paid but theyre willing to work with me at least. i would just explain to the service manager/writer whats going on and what you want to do. if the technicians cant figure it out i offer the buy the part see if it works and sell it back if it doest solution the service manager. especially if theyve had you truck for this problem before. the last two times i had the shop hours dropped off the bill. give it a try. let me know how it goes. i imagine your cost for a tps would be reletively small.. wrote twix i have the same high rev when cold problem as mike i have a 2000 dakota auto with 3.9 l engine i just bought and am trying to figure this out.. do you know if chrysler has a servicebulletin out on this so i can have the dealer read it they tell me it all checks out ok thanks don w .
From : dd wheaton
there is no service bulletin for this. it strictly a call dc in detroit. it took 5 calls to them before i ended up with this solution. i had this problem for 60k miles before it started throwing out codes and then those codes indicated a fuel injector problem. i would be extremely careful not to buy new injecotrs when offered when you get multiple injecor faults. if it is the same problem it will continue to get worse untill the pcm will eventually shut the engine down while your driving. first the tps will begin sticking and you will only notice this on cold starts. then the tps will begin floating while idlling and finally at throttle. the pcm tries to compensate buy injecting either too much fuel or cutting back because the engine wont stay on its programmed power curve. one way to find out... i live in a small town now and this works here but some of the bigger dealer in denver where im from will to this to the dealer here is willing to put on a new part for a trial. if it works good. if not the dealer will buy it back minus a small restocking fee 20%. its actually the highest restocking fee ive ever paid but theyre willing to work with me at least. i would just explain to the service manager/writer whats going on and what you want to do. if the technicians cant figure it out i offer the buy the part see if it works and sell it back if it doest solution the service manager. especially if theyve had you truck for this problem before. the last two times i had the shop hours dropped off the bill. give it a try. let me know how it goes. i imagine your cost for a tps would be reletively small.. wrote twix i have the same high rev when cold problem as mike i have a 2000 dakota auto with 3.9 l engine i just bought and am trying to figure this out.. do you know if chrysler has a service bulletin out on this so i can have the dealer read it they tell me it all checks out ok thanks don w ok thanks twix kinda funny though i had the truck in the other day told them what it was doing and i thought it was the tps and they said they couldnt find a problem but it hasnt done it since it came home before it always did it cold . whats upwith that.. nefer no with those service dept eh. .
From : dominyon
thats funny dominyon yep. but its just not quite as dumb as plowing snow with a 91 s-10. -- budd cochran snowplowing with a dakota tells you about all you need to know about the poster and his buddy a hundred thousand transmissions i think youre exaggerating a little. -- budd cochran a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : budd cochran
the owner of the gm dealership i worked at thought it was great idea . . ..until the auto went out at less than 15000 miles. he had the shop boss put in another one and kept on plowing the next winter then they put in a another trans with a new engine and sold it as a low mileage used truck. -- budd cochran thats funny dominyon yep. but its just not quite as dumb as plowing snow with a 91 s-10. -- budd cochran snowplowing with a dakota tells you about all you need to know about the poster and his buddy a hundred thousand transmissions i think youre exaggerating a little. -- budd cochran a dyslexic man walks into a bra. .
From : don
twix i have the same high rev when cold problem as mike i have a 2000 dakota auto with 3.9 l engine i just bought and am trying to figure this out.. do you know if chrysler has a service bulletin out on this so i can have the dealer read it they tell me it all checks out ok thanks don w .