97 2500 4.10 auto transmission
From : Annonymous
Q: so why didnt these guys know the same information that ive gotten here should i just go back with the information you guys have given and say that i believe its the output speed sensor you should go back and ask them to re-check because everything youve read indicates that code is an output speed sensor malfunction which has nothing to do with the torque converter or pump. again ... thanks for the response. i was thinking i was going to have to spend big money on my durango. nope - this ones most likely an easy fix. .
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From : john kunkel
does anyone know if there is such a warning if not anybody got any idea what it was all about yep - if your signal is on for more than x seconds i think its 60 but it may be less the chime will go off. perfectly normal .
From : max dodge
try this site. go to tech menu common problemssteering. http//dodgeram.org/ram.html heres another good site for repairs on dodges. http//www.pavementsucks.com/ on mon 18 jul 2005 203237 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote id bet on it being one of two things neither of which you mention. steering box and intermediate shaft. the steering box will make all sorts of thumping up through the column especially when coming o a stop and pulling away from a dead stop. it will also make this sort of feeling as you turn. itll get worse and turn into a banging as you turn a corner. the intermediate shaft has aluminum ends and they can either wear or be junk to begin with. mine on a 2500 was replaced under warranty with one that was actually worse than the original. i checked the column end of it and found it to be loose fitting on the bottom end of the column. on the box end it had half the spline it should have. i immediately spent the money on a borgeson unit. it has steel couplings more spline needle bearing universals and is generally a better quality unit than youll find on any factory pickup truck. .
From : john kunkel
could really be the intermediate shaft. i have the same isue with my 2000. do not purchase an oem intermediate shaft. get a borgeson. i have not replaced mine yet but i would bet that is your problem. i have done alot of research and although it is tricky to troubleshoot since it is not an official problem with the truck i believe that is what it is. and you could replace it yourself. http//www.dodgeram.org/tech/troubleshoot/steering.htm http//dodgeram.info/tech/mods/borgeson/index.html http//dodgetruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/topic.tenid=55126l i have a dodge ram 1500 4x4 1999. i recently took it to the shop because while driving i can feel through the steering wheel all sorts of thuds and thumps that feels like its coming from near the end of the steering column. going around long corners i can really feel it. itll thump on and off throughout the whole corner. sometimes ill feel it just driving straight. its not a vibration or shimmy. one way i can try to explain it is it feels like someone is lightly tapping the steering column with a rubber hammer. its sporadic and holds no type of rhythm. so the guy in the shop says well your upper and lower ball joints have some play in it your tie-rod end has some play in it your wheel bearings have some play in it your track bar has some play in it. so i assumed he knew what he was taking about.... so after finding out that my guardian insurance plan paid for almost $600 of these repairs i had him do it all. the problem is still there. i couldnt believe it. i almost have a brand new front end basically. but yet the thumping knocking general unsafe feeling is still there. i just put new rotors calipers and pads on the front both sides. so its not a break vibration. i dont know much about this part of the truck so do you guys have any suggestions on where this could be coming from thanks steve .
From : john kunkel
yada yada yada. the computer doesnt control the tires nor take action if one goes flat. your analogies are lame. as are your explanations as to why my analogies dont fit. oh wait you didnt bother to explain guess that explains that eh pardon me if i dont put much stock in your interpretation of the fsm the same interpretations that led to your reset theory in which the transmission pressure drops to zero at each shift and the transmission drops out of gear to ease the strain on the gears. well you may not like it but dropping the trans into two gear ratios at once is a bad thing at least so they tell me not that ive ever seen any evidence of that getting the sarcasm yet. so im betting there was some though given to my theory when the trans was designed. have a nice day john been good to hear from you. same old same old it appears. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. again if it was not part of the design its a failure not a mode of operation. is a flat tire a mode of operation yada yada yada. the computer doesnt control the tires nor take action if one goes flat. your analogies are lame. pardon me if i dont put much stock in your interpretation of the fsm the same interpretations that led to your reset theory in which the transmission pressure drops to zero at each shift and the transmission drops out of gear to ease the strain on the gears. .
From : max dodge
again if it was not part of the design its a failure not a mode of operation. is a flat tire a mode of operation yada yada yada. the computer doesnt control the tires nor take action if one goes flat. your analogies are lame. pardon me if i dont put much stock in your interpretation of the fsm the same interpretations that led to your reset theory in which the transmission pressure drops to zero at each shift and the transmission drops out of gear to ease the strain on the gears. .
From : max dodge
can some of these symptoms be the result of a bad starter no to the last three and probably not to the first. if the engine spins over your starter isnt your problem. when trying to re-start push the accelerator pedal down a bit maybe 1/16 or so - barely press on it and see if it starts easier. by doing this youre cracking the throttle plates open a bit giving the engine more air what the iac should be doing automatically. if that makes the starts easier youve pretty well narrowed your problem down... .
From : john kunkel
the difference between mode and mode of operation is verbal masturbation typical max if the transmission is in a certain configuration it is in a mode. the fact that the mode is abnormal is the reason for the original post. but the transmisison is not in a configuration for which it was programmed thus it is not an operating mode. however it has failed in that it cannot read the governor pressure. indeed in the very same tsb you cite it mentions that the failure may disappear by cycling the key. with regard to your verbal masturbation perhaps you feel that a failure of the front band is a lack of second gear mode or perhaps failure of the rear clutch is a back this mother up all the way home mode ill leave your choice of words verbal masturbation to you asking only this rhetorical question are you really that flexible the point is the condition can exist with or without all of the pseudo-technical jargon and a condition in which a transmission reverts to single gear operation is throughout the industry commonly called the limp mode or the limp-in mode for the purist. really then a failure of hard parts for say 2nd and 3rd gears would be a damn its gonna be a long drive home mode rather than a front servo failure i guess it was inevitable that we have transmission pc speak. the tsb is evidence that the mode is recognized and has been named the fact that there is no mention of it in the fsm is irrelevant. i suppose its irrelevant that the tsb mentions how the failure can be fixed rather simply -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. if the condition is not expected then it is not a mode of operation but an unexpected condition. generally technicians call unexpected conditions what they are failures. in the specific case mentioned the failure of the govenor pressure sensor limp home is a nifty name for the computer is confused and does not know what the governor pressure is. this is not a mode operation but a lack of information. the difference between mode and mode of operation is verbal masturbation typical max if the transmission is in a certain configuration it is in a mode. the fact that the mode is abnormal is the reason for the original post. the point is the condition can exist with or without all of the pseudo-technical jargon and a condition in which a transmission reverts to single gear operation is throughout the industry commonly called the limp mode or the limp-in mode for the purist. the tsb is evidence that the mode is recognized and has been named the fact that there is no mention of it in the fsm is irrelevant. .
From : tbone
i have a 2003 dodge durango..was wondering if its ok to leave od on all the time or not. .
From : max dodge
hello the wife 2002 dodge durango 52k miles was complaining the the ac wasnt very cold when she first got in the car. when get got going it would be fine.. i checked the refrigerant level and it would fine. she would also complain that the mechanical fan cluch would engage more often creating a whirling noise and sluggish response. she never complained much about this this before. so looking at the truck today it appears that the electric fan has given up the ghost. checked the relay shorted the two relay contacts and the fan wouldnt turn on. with the ac on the relay would click but no movement inthe fan. i got power at the fan connector but the fan wouldnt turn. i took the fan out of the car and hooked it up to a bench power supply and nothing. so am i missing something in my diagnosis or is it simply just a bad fan i called some local autoparts places which are opened on a sunday and all said this is a dealer item.. thanks if you applied power directly to the fan motor and it didnt spin then it is bad. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
the ice cube is weightless in the water as it is floating . the glass of water will weigh more because you have increased the mass contained within the glass. there is no magic here. you really need to think outside of the box every now and then. outside the box is one thing outside the laws of physics is quite another. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. that could give you the weight to calculate the mass while the plane is in level flight because while in level flight the plane has no weight. go back to the ice cube in the glass of water... exact same principle. tell me how the ice cube is weightless. the ice cube is weightless in the water as it is floating . the glass of water will weigh more because you have increased the mass contained within the glass. there is no magic here. you really need to think outside of the box every now and then. oh... but thats different....... no it isnt. i never said that it was or wasnt different. you really need to stop arguing with yourself. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : max dodge
hello the wife 2002 dodge durango 52k miles was complaining the the ac wasnt very cold when she first got in the car. when get got going it would be fine.. i checked the refrigerant level and it would fine. she would also complain that the mechanical fan cluch would engage more often creating a whirling noise and sluggish response. she never complained much about this this before. so looking at the truck today it appears that the electric fan has given up the ghost. checked the relay shorted the two relay contacts and the fan wouldnt turn on. with the ac on the relay would click but no movement inthe fan. i got power at the fan connector but the fan wouldnt turn. i took the fan out of the car and hooked it up to a bench power supply and nothing. so am i missing something in my diagnosis or is it simply just a bad fan i called some local autoparts places which are opened on a sunday and all said this is a dealer item.. thanks -james .
From : john kunkel
the fsm is specific as to the operation of the trans and its solenoids. no limp home mode is described. exactly how many tsbs concerning the automatic transmission have been predicted in the fsm and given names if the material was covered in the fsm there would be no need for a tsb to rehash it. i doubt if youll find the term broken camshaft anywhere in a fsm and nowhere will there be described a mode of operation that predictably leads to broken camshafts but if there were a rash of such failures there would most likely be a tsb addressing it and the commonly used term broken camshaft would be used to describe the failure. .. .
From : transurgeon
ohh.. one other thing. i wonder if the fan is considered part of drive train and would be covered under the 7yr/70k mile warranty that dodge offers. i guess id have to put the inop fan back in and drive it to the dealer if it is.. -jr the fan is not covered under the 7/70 powertrain warranty. sorry... mike .
From : max dodge
isnt that the point of a tsb max to talk about explain and define an unexpected condition perhaps this feature or behavior was not intended during the design of the system but that doesnt mean that it will not or cannot happen or that it will not later get a name if this unintended behavior is then shown to be consistent for a given set of conditions. if the condition is not expected then it is not a mode of operation but an unexpected condition. generally technicians call unexpected conditions what they are failures. in the specific case mentioned the failure of the govenor pressure sensor limp home is a nifty name for the computer is confused and does not know what the governor pressure is. this is not a mode operation but a lack of information. plus the op stated that it would not go into 1 even if the manual lever was put in 1 this is one of those weird failure modes because the ml should over-ride gov pressure unless the vss was also giving a squirrely reading like telling the ecm that the vehicle was above 45 or so at which point the gs would be wide-open and preventing the 1-2 shift valve from returning to the at-rest position .
From : max dodge
i am trying to decide which truck to go with and was hopeing i could get some advice from the group. are there any advantages or disadvantages to any of the diesel engines offered by the different mnufacturers .
From : john kunkel
fwiw the tsb only deals with transmissions built prior to december 18 1998 which falls within the range of the original posters unit. so you are saying in effect that they did away with limp home mode -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .
From : john kunkel
i had the dealer do the throttle body and injectors cleaned because of a rough idle. how long should it be before i feel a difference right away. other common possible causes include vacuum leak iac motor and ignition problems. from what i hear most dodges will benefit from hi-perfomance coil... i put accel coil in my 99 durango and it solved my rough idle when cold... peter .
From : john kunkel
if you think about it for a minute youll realize that the whole idea behind tsbs is to disseminate info not contained in the service manual. if the limp mode/limp-in mode were addressed in the fsm there would be no need to rehash it in a tsb. if you think for a moment after reading the fsm and the complete description of operation you might also come to the conclusion that there is no limp home mode. this is because it specifically details what the pcm is capable of doing. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. fwiw the tsb only deals with transmissions built prior to december 18 1998 which falls within the range of the original posters unit. so you are saying in effect that they did away with limp home mode i dunno i can only quote the tsb. if you think about it for a minute youll realize that the whole idea behind tsbs is to disseminate info not contained in the service manual. if the limp mode/limp-in mode were addressed in the fsm there would be no need to rehash it in a tsb. .
From : transurgeon
on tue 12 jul 2005 053409 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote sorry tom but you are incorrect here and your vacuum description proves that. the volume of a cylinder is a dimensional measurement of space within the cylinder while the volume of a material whether liquid gas or solid is the amount of that material. within the space wrong. material is measured in weight or fluid increments. volume will always be the amount of space the material can fill not the amount of material. lol material is not always measured in weight and fluid increments are a volume measurment and you can get 100 oz of liquid in a 200 oz container and it is still sold or measured as 100 oz. the same goes for gas although gas is usually sold in a compressed or liquid form iow more cu in of gas than the cu in volume of the container. any volume measurement of a gas is meaningless if the density is not taking into consideration. and that is my point pinhead. because the density can change the volume of gas within the cylinder can change as well even if the volume of the cylinder is fixed. poke a hole in that container the pressure inside far exceeds atmospheric pressure here on the surface of the earth therefore the co2 escapes until the pressure in the container equals ambient atmospheric pressure. if you capture this gas as it leaves the container say in a ballon and discounting any amount lost due to leakeage the weight of the gas in the ballon will equal the original weight of the gas in the cylinder but the volume will increase dramatically. lol wrong. it will have the same mass but a very different weight. you do know the difference between the two dont you. if i were to put 1 molecule of oxygen into a 20 cu in container it most definitely would not have a volume of 20 cu in. it would take up the same molecular amount of space that a single oxygen molecule always takes up it would just be in a 20 cu in space. thats terrific but we arent talking about one molecule were talking about millions. as such we are also talking about density. why not talk about one molecule first to accomplish what boner suggests he must first evacuate *all* other matter from the 20 ci container. in other words create a total and complete vacuum good luck. regardless of the difficulty the theory holds just the same. then inject one molecule of oxygen. indeed you will end up with a 20 ci container full of oxygen at a very low density. no perhaps you need to look up the definition of full. while the container may have nothing but oxygen it it it will not be full. byw why do you keep calling me boner are you trying to tell me something homo. put another molecule of o in there and youve doubled the density but you still have only 20 ci of oxygen add a million or a zillion same story only the density changes... wrong a ci of oxygen is a volumetric measurment based on pressure and temperature specification . perhaps you should do a little research before making a complete idiot of yourself. it doesnt matter. if the rule works for millions it also has to work for just one or the rule is invalid. whether a gas is at 2psi or 20psi if its in a 20cu.in.container its volume is 20cu.in. corrrect if you are simply trying to measure how much room the gas occupies at the given pressure but to complete the measurement you must also specify what the pressure inside the container is. if what boner is saying is true the same amount of gas would have to be present at 2 psi as it would at 200 psi. where did you come up with this idiotic statement or do you just not know how to follow a thread. i said that the volume of gas within a container is not dependent on the size of the container mainly due to the compressable nature of a gas. that was max with his 2psi 20psi being the same amount bs. hey boner you are about to go to a wrecking yard to dismantle an old truck with your o/a cutting torch. you have two 80 cf o2 containers. one is pretty light in weight the other relatively heavy. the job is expected to take several hours and is an hours drive from your home/work. you only have room for one of your o2 cyllinders. which one do you take and why they both contain 80 cf of o2 correct if that is true it shouldnt matter which cylinder you take choose the lighter one it will be easier to move around... that is not true and i never said that shit for brains. i in fact said quite the opposit. while the container may have an internal volume of 80 cf which is quite large moron there could and better be considerably more o2 than that remember that it is compressed and the heavier one would have a greater volume of gas and hey look the same size container. according to boners theory why use a turbo charger or super charger because a supercharger and a turbocharger are capable of squeezing a much larger volume of air in
From : transurgeon
on tue 12 jul 2005 082855 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 10 jul 2005 134338 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote on sun 10 jul 2005 095221 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote says... hemidude03 @webtv.net says... agreed. worrying about mileage when you are driveing a truck i have never been able to follow. normally i would agree. before my my ram my 2000- dak suddenly dropped from 18 to 12 highway. when i inquired abo
From : Annonymous
on tue 12 jul 2005 140506 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote i continue to ask for proof of this. the proof is already in the pudding max. the parts failed and dc repaired them under warranty which indicates that they know the fault is theirs. now if these problems happened to every vehicle within the same time frame then you could say it is the nature of the beast but since it doesnt.. you have it backwards. if all parts failed that would be a substandard part. but they havent. no parts that would normally fail qc if it caught them are also considered either substandard or defective depending what is wrong with them. as to admission of fault wrong again. warranty is a part of the price you pay for a new vehicle. lol you are kidding right. while they may add to the cost of the vehicle every claim is a loss of profit for the company and in todays world... its dc admitting that mechanical things can go wrong and wanting to provide trouble free ownership just like anyone who offers a warranty. agreed but if the problems are obvious customer caused abuse as you suggest they will not fix it for free. it is not an assumption it is a fact backed up by them making the repairs. you have this all backwards in typical fashion. proof now where is yours showing that these problems are due to the customer and if it is the customers fault why is dc repairing them dc despite what many people think likes to have a satisfied customer. so if the dealer can put it through under warranty it goes. bullshit. attracting abusive customers like this does nothing for the bottom line. now as to why i think its very possible its customer abuse i already detailed that. but what you are saying makes no business sense at all. now there is an interesting comment tom. pot kettle black i would think so. there is simply no point in attracting customers that will eliminate your profits in bogus warranty calims and they didnt stay in business by being idiots. how can you fairly represent two or more competing companies at the same time they are nothing more than retailers and repair centers. id agree if they sold competing makes that the sales end was a bit suspect. but in this case its warranty work which means the dealer wants you to come back no matter what they bill to the manufacturer. which reinforces my point of dc 0 dealer 1 thanks max. that would also indicate that the dealer is no longer a true representitive of the manufacturer thanks again max. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. i guess that you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be. sales come from both subjective desires and actual value. yeah but warranty and quality of parts do not. recall that the subject was warranty and qc not sales. once the vehicle is sold it matters not what it looks like. but it has to be sold first and people look at both looks and quality and the better it looks the less concerned they seem to be about quality. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. no just another example of your spin. this is not the only thing that i go by but even in this group alone there are many omplaints. um but it is see thats what you said really not by what im reading in this group alone. yes which means that despite everything else i read even in this mostly pro-dc group i am reading about problems. talk about a lack of comprehention lol. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. now where is your proof that nobody gave these dealers a bad rating or that dc even really looks at them. hell how many dealerships have had their five star rating stripped from them. i would say pretty damn close to none but feel free to post a list or a link to a list to prove me wrong. dont know dont care. i just pointed out where you finally made sense. its not the subject at hand so back to the qc and owner abuse that is the topic. iow you know that im right and that the 5 star has become nothing more than a marketing gimmick. .
From : max dodge
twix wrote on fri 15 jul 2005 172740 gmt lorne guess @noguess.net wrote if you are asking now for when this happens there is something else the matter too! i had the dealer do the throttle body and injectors cleaned because of a rough idle. how long should it be before i feel a difference if that was the cause of the problem you should feel an immediate difference. mike one of the first things to check on a rough idle is the throttle position sensor. mine went bad at 20k miles. if it is the tps it will cost you $$$ down the road if not corrected now. my 2002 dodge dakota lemon does the same thing. its the computer calling for a low idle. two dealers refused to fix it so i filled a lemon law suite. it cost daimler chrysler $6000. jam .
From : max dodge
fwiw there is no limp home mode mentioned in any form in the 00 fsm description of operation of the 46/47re nor my 03... there is for the 545rfe though. still - why would it be mentioned in the tsb what i want to know is... how exactly is it supposed to engage what can be done electronically to prevent the application of 1st or 2nd gear .
From : tom lawrence
on fri 15 jul 2005 172740 gmt lorne guess @noguess.net wrote if you are asking now for when this happens there is something else the matter too! i had the dealer do the throttle body and injectors cleaned because of a rough idle. how long should it be before i feel a difference if that was the cause of the problem you should feel an immediate difference. mike one of the first things to check on a rough idle is the throttle position sensor. mine went bad at 20k miles. if it is the tps it will cost you $$$ down the road if not corrected now. .
From : john kunkel
a general rule of thumb is that if the truck is hunting or up and down shifting a lot you should have od locked out... we always tow without od figuring that you cant hurt it to lock out od and our mpg is the same or better with it locked out... ymmv this statement is probably the best bet in my opinion if you look at most owners manuals it will say something to the effect that if you tow or haul anything over a certain weight practically any trailer or anything with any size in the back that they recomend you use tow/haul or o/d off. now as far as your truck having the power to pull 5000 lbs id think you would be fine. a good 1/2 ton should be able to handle a camper of that size no problems. thats my 2 cents .
From : john kunkel
sure sounds like a tranny temp sensor malfunctioning. have you run a diagnostic on it to see if it brings up any fault codes that would be a good place to start. did i miss something im starting to wonder if my server is giving me all the posts. how did you figure out what vehicle he has im really not trying to be a smart ass im seriously wondering if im seeing all the posts al .
From : transurgeon
please show me exactly where i said that the mass ever changes. oh thats right you cant! maybe someday you will figure out that very complex equation. lol right here because weight is a measurment of a force not a volume or mass. which is correct. since weight = mass x acceleration the only way you can have no weight is for either mass or acceleration or both to equal zero now please read what you wrote mass or acceleration. we will get back to this later. since you were talking about helium having no weight we see that you are comparing it to other things which have weight therefore acceleration gravity is still present hahahahahahaha you really are an idiot. acceleration is more than just gravity. acceleration is a net force where in a perfect world gravity would be it but in reality gravity is only a part of it. when talking weight gravity = acceleration stop trying to spin if other forces acting on the mass are opposed to the force of gravity g gets smaller and if they are greater than the force of gravity in the opposite vector or direction g becomes zero or even funnier a negative number which would give our object a negative weight such as lighter than air. now the problem is that the density of air at ground level and pretty much through our entire atmosphere is more dense than helium which causes it to place a force on the helium greater than the force of gravity and in the opposite direction. remember g of the equation. if you now add these forces at the point of measure to get the actual value of g you will get a number that is less than zero for this particular gas which when plugged into your equation will give a weight of less than zero as well hence the gas floats away. therefore acceleration does not equal zero so for mass x acceleration to equal zero mass must be zero i guess that you really are this dumb or at least as mathematically/logically challenged as you accuse me of being. but to make this even simple enough for you to understand if you put your quantity of helium or any other substance on a scale under normal conditions and get no reading then it has no downward force or no weight period. once more braniac weigh a container that is drawn down to a hard vacuum inside then weigh it when it is filled with helium now i know this is heavy math/logic for somebody that doesnt understand percentages but read it real slow and maybe it will sink in lol is this the best that you can do i never claimed to be a mathematician and it was a simple mistake one that many in here also made. i didnt see anyone other than yourself trying for three weeks to deny that 3% / 2% = 150% the rest got it fairly quickly you kept calling it fuzzy math .
From : tbonetransurgeon
below is a direct quote from dc tsb 21-04-00 referring to the 96-99 46re transmission the vehicle operator may experience slower than normal vehicle accelerations because the transmission may have temporarily entered its third gear limp-in mode as a result of the dtc. the limp- in mode may last until the vehicle owner cycles the ignition key. the technician may not detect a problem with the automatic transmission during a diagnostic test or test drive. the quotation marks surrounding limp-in are dcs not mine; making it rather obvious that the a500 /518 /618 family does indeed go into a limp mode under certain circumstances. got a problem with that talk to dc. first off a 97 2500 would have a 47re if a v-8 and a 48re if a v-10 so this tsb does not apply to the vehicle in question au contraire!! the tsb specifically refers to all res. again a direct quote from the tsb this information applies to vehicles equipped with a re series automatic transmission built before december 18 1998 mdh 1218xx really then why did you specifically say 46re originally the original post didnt specify an engine size but only the diesel and v-10 had the 47re in 97 the 48re came along much later. any 2500-series will have a 518 or 618 if later v-10 or diesel second mopars use of quotation marks indicates that this is a non-factory-programmed event kind of like windows 98 freezing up if it automatically reverts to a certain gear when an error occurs it is a factory-programmed event just like windows 98 flashing a blue screen. if it were a factory programed mode limp mode would be called limp mode not limp-in picky picky. i suppose it depends on the definition of limp. yes it does and your interpretation of limp-in is wrong .
From : storby
im always looking for dodge pickups.it doesnt matter what the condition *usually* blown motorstranny outbad diff.transfer case out body damage. i have been working and driving dodge my whole life.my dadunclegandpacousin we all are dodge. we have builtmodifiedrepaired about anything there is to on our dodges. so if anyone has any to get rid of for resonable feel free to let me know about them. im looking for another project to start = .
From : transurgeon
yes i do thats why i asked you to come up with a perfect service record for any complex machine and all its models. lol there is a big difference between a perfect record and something that craps out every day. there sure is and the ops truck certainly didnt crap out every day. ok so again prove that there are excessive failures in any of the items mr. f. twit mentioned. how about the number of failures alone. one or two failures is usually acceptable but this many and in these areas simply is not. the number of failures to each part is exactly one. exactly. so if the number of similar problems is not way out of whack its not a qc problem. pretty much what ive been saying all along. any problems that get out is a qc problem. more rubbish. youve obviously not done any studies regarding cost/benefit or qc in the area of acceptable failure rate. bingo. read what ya said and remember that you claimed the ops truck was a lemon. lol like many thinhs in life max the legal and accepted definition are not always the same thing. i see so anything that fails is a lemon to you thats not the accepted definition by most people. but i would say i expected as much from you. yea but where did he say that it all happened or was repaired at the same time and why would he be compl
From : tom lawrence
randy e schaben wrote arhhggg!!!! i scratched up the front bumber on my 03 ram 1500. truck has the sport appearance package with color matched bumber with driving lights. cannot repair the lower part of the bumber lower spoiler; due to its texture the body shop cannot match it. insurance company wants to replace with aftermarket bumper. asking for recommendations or advise as to the best aftermarket bumper. or should i get one of those bumber covers like the ones ive seen in the styling concepts catalog any suggestions and/or opinions will be appreciated. who is your insurer read your policy. generally an insurance company must restore your vehicle to pre-accident condition which means using factory parts. in order for them not to your policy must state clearly that the use of non-factory parts can be done. .
From : Annonymous
first off a 97 2500 would have a 47re if a v-8 and a 48re if a v-10 so this tsb does not apply to the vehicle in question in 97 the 47re was the biggest trans 48re didnt come out until 03.5 and only went to the v10 and cummins trucks. the 360 got the 46re. .
From : Annonymous
true for a liquid and a solid... gas is different. lol no it isnt. if they all have a mass then the same rules apply. gas is compressable.... liquids and solids are not. well while not completely true while a gas may be compressable it still has the same mass. going the other way a set amount of gas may expand to the size of a larger container but the container is not necessarily full by definition. alright - then explain to me what constitutes a full container of any gas is a co2 tank full at 20psi 200psi 2000psi or is it not full until just before it bursts i guess that you could say that a container is full when it is at its rated capacity but in actuality it isnt completely full until it is just on the verge of rupture. now i realize that this is just an argument based on semantics but max taught me well. no it may always change its size to the volume of the container the amount or volume of gas remains the same. youre interchanging amount and volume and thats not correct. really perhaps you should look up the definition of volume. i can have the same amount of gas in a 20cu.in. container or a 2 cu.in. container. it will just be at a higher pressure in the smaller container. exactly iow the same volume of gas in different sized containers. if you take 1 cu ft of gas and compress it into a 1 cu in container you still have 1 cu ft of gas simply compressed into a smaller space. youre still not getting it.... unless youre talking about a measurement at stp the term 1 cu.ft. of gas is completely meaningless in terms of the amount of that gas. not true. a standard cubic foot of gas is a standard cubic foot of gas any way that you want to look at it. if this were not the case your argon bottle would be measured by weight not cf. incorrect. the standard unit of measure says this in simply not true. a standard cubic foot of any gas has a specific mass and changing the size of the container does not change the mass of the gas within it. yes - at a specific temperature and pressure in this case 60f and 14.7psi - different than stp. see thats the whole problem here. youre always assuming that a volume of any gas regardless of its pressure is measured as if that gas were at stp or 60/14.7. what the rest of us going way back to talking about the volume of air in an engines cylinder is that regardless of the pressure the gas will have a volume equal to the size of the cylinder - just a simple measure of volume. no it is just you stuck on volume being a measure of size and that is simply not true. look up the definition already. as for the measurment that is exactly how it is measured. that is what makes it a standard and your argon bottle fully backs that up. because of this a standard cubic foot of any gas is nothing more than a measurement of the mass of the molecules contained in 1 cubic foot at specific conditions. no - the standard cubic foot is a measure of the volume of a gas at stp. a mole is a measurement of the amount of gas counting the actual number of molocules. the two are completely separate and distinct measurements. volume of a material is a quantity not a size. a standard cubic foot is a measurement of the amount or mass of a given gas at stp. a mole is just a different method of measurement. because of this the space between them no longer has any meaning sure it does - it defines the volume. only for a container. the gas of reduce the space compress the gas the volume of gas as a quantity measure does not change. sigh no... the amount of gas does not change - its volume is certainl y changing inversely proportional to its pressure. textbook boyles law... then why is your argon cylinder sized in cf and not only that but at 80cf. are you saying that the cylinder has an actual volume of 80cf and if not then why is it rated at that level here is a hint the volume of the cylinder and the gas stored in it dont have to be and seldom are the same. exactly my point. now unless the measurement of the inside of that tank has an actual volume of 80 cu ft and that would be one huge tank your example proves my point. if the tank has an actual internal volume of 2 or 3 cu ft and it is said to contain 80cu ft of the gas then the volume of the container does not always equal the volume of gas contained within it... sigh i give up.... youre now claiming that a gas contained in a .5cu.ft. container actually has a volume of 80cu.ft. forget about pressures forget about temperatures forget about other definitions. that gas is physically occupying .5cu.ft. that is its volume in that tank. yes if allowed to expand to a pressure of 14.7psi and 60f it would then have a volume of 80cu.ft. so what if allowed to expand to a pressure of 13.2psi and 40f it would then have a larger volume. like i said tom you are completely hung u
From : Annonymous
on tue 12 jul 2005 140506 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote now there is an interesting comment tom. pot kettle black i would think so. i thought that you were going to stfu and watch me implode. i guess that honesty isnt really a strong point of yours. do you intend to explain this comment oh wtf am i kidding. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : transurgeon
on tue 12 jul 2005 174911 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on tue 12 jul 2005 053409 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote sorry tom but you are incorrect here and your vacuum description proves that. the volume of a cylinder is a dimensional measurement of space within the cylinder while the volume of a material whether liquid gas or solid is the amount of that material. within the space wrong. material is measured in weight or fluid increments. volume will always be the amount of space the material can fill not the amount of material. lol material is not always measured in weight and fluid increments are a volume measurment and you can get 100 oz of liquid in a 200 oz container and it is still sold or measured as 100 oz. the same goes for gas although gas is usually sold in a compressed or liquid form iow more cu in of gas than the cu in volume of the container. any volume measurement of a gas is meaningless if the density is not taking into consideration. and that is my point pinhead. because the density can change the volume of gas within the cylinder can change as well even if the volume of the cylinder is fixed. i thought i was trying to be nice a bit sarcastic maybe but nice nonetheless. nice my ass shithead. since i dont know you where do you get off starting with the name calling especially since it appears that you dont like getting it back. with a handle like tbone youve got to expect some variations on it being thrown back at you dont be so freakin sensitive dipshit... really why because you are too immature not to use them. i suspect you have somewhat of a grasp of the issue you just havent a clue as to how to express it in a coherent manner much like your math in the great k&n debate. pretty lame response there buddy. i apparently have a much greater on than you since i actually know how large of an area 80cf is. poke a hole in that container the pressure inside far exceeds atmospheric pressure here on the surface of the earth therefore the co2 escapes until the pressure in the container equals ambient atmospheric pressure. if you capture this gas as it leaves the container say in a ballon and discounting any amount lost due to leakeage the weight of the gas in the ballon will equal the original weight of the gas in the cylinder but the volume will increase dramatically. lol wrong. it will have the same mass but a very different weight. you do know the difference between the two dont you. cant wait for this one please explain in detail how and in what manner the weight will change and how this will not affect mass. because weight is measurement of a force acting on that mass gravity and is influenced by both the density of that mass and the mass of things around it. while you may not have affected the mass you did affect the density which will affect the weight. youve got x weight of co2 in the original container compressed in a cylinder high density more weight. you simply transfer it to a larger container which reduces the density and the weight. if this co2 were instead he it would still have a weight in compressed or liquid form but when allowed to expand back into a gas it would have no weight at all and actually carry your balloon away and yet still have the same mass it always did. you have seen a blimp right uncompressed in a balloon. where do you gain/lose weight if the weight changes how does the mass not change because weight is a measurment of a force not a volume or mass. lesson 101 completed. you stupid fuck weight = mass times acceleration due to gravity snip hey boner you are about to go to a wrecking yard to dismantle an old truck with your o/a cutting torch. you have two 80 cf o2 containers. one is pretty light in weight the other relatively heavy. the job is expected to take several hours and is an hours drive from your home/work. you only have room for one of your o2 cyllinders. which one do you take and why they both contain 80 cf of o2 correct if that is true it shouldnt matter which cylinder you take choose the lighter one it will be easier to move around... that is not true and i never said that shit for brains. i in fact said quite the opposit. while the container may have an internal volume of 80 cf which is quite large moron to start with dipshit you apparently have never dealt with common gas cylinders 80cf is a standard size. whos playing the moron now once again that would be you. you do know big 80cf is dont you unless your tank is 3 x 3 x 9 or some like dimensions to equal 80cf the rating is not the physical size of the tank it is the maximum amount of compressed gas the tank is designed to hold. the physical tank size is only a few cf. there could and better be considerably more o2 than that remember that it is compressed and the heavier one wo
From : john kunkel
below is a direct quote from dc tsb 21-04-00 referring to the 96-99 46re transmission the vehicle operator may experience slower than normal vehicle accelerations because the transmission may have temporarily entered its third gear limp-in mode as a result of the dtc. the limp- in mode may last until the vehicle owner cycles the ignition key. the technician may not detect a problem with the automatic transmission during a diagnostic test or test drive. the quotation marks surrounding limp-in are dcs not mine; making it rather obvious that the a500 /518 /618 family does indeed go into a limp mode under certain circumstances. got a problem with that talk to dc. first off a 97 2500 would have a 47re if a v-8 and a 48re if a v-10 so this tsb does not apply to the vehicle in question second mopars use of quotation marks indicates that this is a non-factory-programmed event kind of like windows 98 freezing up if it were a factory programed mode limp mode would be called limp mode not limp-in .
From : john kunkel
would like to get a little more out of my 90 model 3.9 dak. and the most common suggestion that i see on the web is change out the tb to either an improved v6 or a v8. when i start shopping around ebay etc. i see a lot of tb spacers but no tbs. they are not the same thing are they what difference thanks to answer the op only. a spacer wont do diddly for a relatively stock engine. it should become obvious to even the most opinionated or just plain friggin stupid folks figure out which label fits who around here that if the turbulence was an issue to squeezing out a couple of hp the big 3 would have done it. for an exercise go lift the hood of your truck. on mine a 05 325hp cummins from the airbox there air travels through a ribbed hose through a 90 and down into another 90 to the turbo. doesnt really seem to be a concern about smooth airflow there. the wifes 05 gmc 255hp l6 has pretty much the same no turbo of course. oh no spacer on either of them. id submit that both dc&gm have engineers who probably spend months watching air flow thats what they come up with. further they probably know a hell of a lot more than most of the folks here about getting hp and economy out of a stock engine. roy .
From : john kunkel
sounds like the transmission has gone into the limp mode. limp mode on a 518 hahahaha 97 is an re. yes and an re is hydraulically shifted via a governor pressure solenoid and transducer for 1-2-3 and electrically enabled for 4th off the same governor pressure circuit and electrically off of 3rd oil for l/u there is no limp mode on the a500 /518 /618 family .
From : transurgeon
1992 dodge d50 ram 2.4 motor. has new coil/transtior for coil/mfi relay ecm rebuilt starter relay plus and wires cap /rotor/timing belt/head was warp has been shaved new gaskets.rebult dist /new ignition switch. rebult alternator.the problem is you turn key in start postion well start but you have to hard it in the start postion when released to run stops running so does anyone have and answer on what the problem is should could use help on this one .
From : max dodge
sorry tom but you are incorrect here and your vacuum description proves that. the volume of a cylinder is a dimensional measurement of space within the cylinder while the volume of a material whether liquid gas or solid is the amount of that material. within the space wrong. material is measured in weight or fluid increments. volume will always be the amount of space the material can fill not the amount of material. if i were to put 1 molecule of oxygen into a 20 cu in container it most definitely would not have a volume of 20 cu in. it would take up the same molecular amount of space that a single oxygen molecule always takes up it would just be in a 20 cu in space. thats terrific but we arent talking about one molecule were talking about millions. as such we are also talking about density. whether a gas is at 2psi or 20psi if its in a 20cu.in.container its volume is 20cu.in. wrong. refrigerent is not sold by volume its sold by weight. welding gas is not sold by volume its sold by weight. liquids are not sold by volume they are sold by fluid measure. no unless the pressure was zero at sea level it would be x cu in of gas compressed or decompressed into a 20 cu in container. bullshit. try buying some compressed gas sometime. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. um no. air is elestic. itll always be the same volume. different density but same volume. um no. the volume is based on the amount of air that manages to get into the cylinder in any given cycle and there is nothing all that consistant about that. if this were true there would be no need for a throttle body. youre confusing volume and mass or moles... the volume of air in the cylinder is always equal to the volume of that cylinder unless its a complete vacuum which doesnt happen. a gas will always expand to fill its container. sorry tom but you are incorrect here and your vacuum description proves that. the volume of a cylinder is a dimensional measurement of space within the cylinder while the volume of a material whether liquid gas or solid is the amount of that material. within the space if i were to put 1 molecule of oxygen into a 20 cu in container it most definitely would not have a volume of 20 cu in. it would take up the same molecular amount of space that a single oxygen molecule always takes up it would just be in a 20 cu in space. whether a gas is at 2psi or 20psi if its in a 20cu.in.container its volume is 20cu.in. no unless the pressure was zero at sea level it would be x cu in of gas compressed or decompressed into a 20 cu in container. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .