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From : m warren

Q: what exactly is a voltage system insert the words of the. even still did you mean electrical system do you even know what a voltage drop is yes. we are not talking about the battery voltage here max we are talking about the voltage at a particular component a headlight within a specific circuit and it can be different lower than what you see at the battery. it can be but in my experience its not. unless something elsewhere in the electrical system is drawing more amperage than the system can supply such as a grid heater the system doesnt drop voltage particularly if the alternator is doing its job. once again you just dont get it. remember we are not talking about the batteries state of charge here we are talking about a loss of voltage due to resistance in a circuit. exactly. so....unless the lamp can somehow flow more current than can be supplied at 12v the voltage will never drop. unless the switch and the harness has no resistance and we both know that is impossible there will always be a voltage drop when current flows. what matters is how much of one. what you seem to not understand is that the wire has some internal resistance per foot and thinner wire has more internal resistance that a heavier guage. i understand that perfectly. ive eliminated the stock wiring as being a source of voltage drop because ive checked many systems including the one on a dodge truck and found that mr. sterns claim simply isnt true on a dodge truck. as such i doubt its true on all vehicles as mr. stern asserts. it has to be true because any resistance will cause a voltage drop. what really matters is how much of a drop and on that it depends on the vehicle and the condition of the components. from the number of posts i see on this ng about failed headlight switches i would think that it is more likely than not that the factory setup is barely up to the task when everything is new. however if the lamps mr. stern is supplying need more amperage the larger guage wire is logical. even one strand will read at battery voltage it just cant carry the amperage. thus no voltage drop until the amperage required exceeds the amperage the circuit can deliver. on a stock system the voltage will not drop from a stock headlamp because the circuit is designed to deliver the amperage needed. the point is that a lamp can flow more current than can be supplied at 12v if the wiring and/or switch is not also up to delivering that amount of current at 12v. bingo. but as ive said numerous times thats not the case in a stock vehicle. thus the claim of a voltage drop cannot be made as a blanket statement. it can happen but will not happen on a stock vehicle in good condition. it will always happen unless you have developed a wire and switches without any internal resistance. that is correct. current lights the lamp not voltage but voltage determines how much current is going to pass thru your lamp. rubbish. the resistance determines this for any given voltage. for all your preaching you forgot its interdependant not just voltage. lol nice attempt at spin. since the lamp is the load on the circuit it is the somewhat fixed resistance and the voltage is the variable in this discussion. since the lamp was not lit there was no current passing thru the circuit and with no current you get no voltage drop so there will be battery voltage across an unloaded circuit. you arent getting this. the circuit was closed the lamp should have been lit it was not. thus there was not enough amperage since the circuit when open read battery voltage on the hot leg. simple testing led me to the conclusion that i had a corroded wire which i found to be the case. but even with a corroded wire battery voltage was present at the lamp socket. factory wiring will be enough to supply proper amperage and thus insure no voltage drop for the factory lamps. what you just said above really means nothing. the circuit was not closed or the lamp would have lit. the ground wire must have been the problem which in effect had such a high resistance due to the corrosion that the circuit was effectively opened. if the corrosion was on the input side the voltage woud have been near zero if the lamp was still in the circuit. you did check with the lamp connected didnt you if not then you have proven nothing because with no load like you said and stole from me battery voltage would be seen on a thread of wire. voltage drops can only be seen under load and if you had put the bulb back into the circuit the voltage would have dropped to nothing. if it was the ground you would have seen voltage on both sides of the bulb which indicates that the voltage drop is after the bulb. this is why i asked you if the lamp was lit to see if you were measuring across an active circuit that could have a voltage drop and as we

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From : beekeep

on tue 28 dec 2004 171441 gmt jerry jlrice1655@earthlink.net wrote and you want to throw in leo as if they are significant in this argument. in comparison to joe public leo buys only a small percentage of guns and ammo in this country. you brought up the sig. you dont know what the purpose of the sigs introduction was. the sig was designed for leos the public doesnt want them...... so what ...... the leos do. the glock of course was designed for military use. that is why it is so simple and has no manual safety. the austrian military specs prohibited that. it had to jump through a lot of hoops for the austrian military the chief being durability it had to take just about any type of punishment and keep shooting. that is also why it will continue to fire without a magazine in it as long as a round is in battery. a lot of people in the us dont like that feeling it is unsafe but for military purposes it is a requirment. the gun was so successful in the austrian military that it came over to canada for le use. leo in the us then picked up on it and it slowly made its way into us le use in the us. it now probably the most popular gun in the us le. the marketing of this however was to get the popularity of the gun up high enough to market it to the consumer because that is where the money is made. they have done a good job of that and it is taking off here. keep in mind glock has only been in the us about 20 years! they got a prety remarkable record for that brief period of time. i understand what nate has said about the history of the acp but i wouldnt bet against glock. they have some excellent technical people including mr. glock himself and i think the gap fits a niche that will keep it around for some time. .

From : beekeep

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