92 4x4 auto 318 > 360 conversion
From : earl groce
Q: i have a 92 4x4 auto 318 with a busted 318... bought it that way. i have a 360 engine i just bought from a wrecked 1500 1995 auto 4 x 4 ive done some research and know i have to have a 350 torque converter. my 95 harmonic balancer is damaged but i cant use the 318.. right my vin is 1b7gg23y8ns556379 what transmission do i have. im planning to go with the 92 computer the 92 fuel rail they have different fuel lines the 95 injectors the 92 starter the 92 exhaust headers they are still attached to the exhaust the 92 oil pan the 95 was damaged in the wreck any other issues earl groce advance nc a couple of things you need the 360 converter and balancer. youll also need a replacement oil pan the 318 pan wont work on the 360. im not sure id try the 92 318 computer on the 95 360. you may have wiring problems with the 95 injectors. theres also the slightly different drivers side motor mount bracket cheap at the dealer. just remove the 95 mounts theyre not used on the 92. your current transmission is an a-518 or in more current terms a 46rh be careful not to damage the crankshaft pickup sensor when you remove the engine its on the transmission bell housing upper passenger side. now thats over with your current truck does have a magnum 318 right id heard not all 92 318s are magnums .
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From : bigironram
i have a 47re and the spec for atf is mopar +4 type 9602. are any of the oil company brands at walmart etc equivalent/ok for this this is a year old there may be more by now http//www.imake.com/lng/earticle000473450.cfmx=b110w .
From : steve lusardi
lamellae wrote budd cochran wrote but that doesnt change the fact that youre a self-appointed net-nanny. whos the self-appointed net-nanny dakota v-6 questions are right on youre a grown man so do what you want. respectfully i advise that you not bother trying to reason with budd bible nazi about *anything*. the result is always the same 1 hes the rode-hard victim doing gods will. 2 you are a liberal or an atheist or both. also i suggest no trying to reason with *anyone* about staying on topic. its a foreign concept around here and will only result in you getting flamed by the self appointed owners of this ng. brainwasher = on autos really means anything dodge really means anything trucks really means anything brainwasher = off op with 146000 miles youre asking for trouble if you mod it. ask me how i know. - craig c. -- facts fakts -noun the pesky things that get in the way of religious doctrine. .
From : bigironram
sarcasm mode at warp factor 300 im sorry i didnt know you were my nanny this week. gosh id sure like it if mum to let me know these things. oh dear she cant. she passed away in 81. sarcasm reduced to impulse speed obviously you have not been in this group for very long or you would know there are an average of about 8 of these i-bought-a-v-6-and-i-want it-to-run-like-a-viper-or-a-peterbuilt posts per year if not more. im sorry if you cant understand how it gets tiresome listening to these whiners about how they didnt use their god given brains to figure out that a v-6 isnt going to tow that 50 foot fifth wheel over colorados monarch pass over 11000 feet or turn the quarter mile faster than a aa/fd or get better gas mileage than a 50 cc moped. or worse; how they think a k$n airfilter with a tornado device in the carb / throttle body and magnets on the fuel lines will cause all those things to magically happen. now killfile me and go bother someone else. -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams roy wrote budd cochran wrote you get a 239 cubic inch v-6 in a 4000+ pound vehicle and you want it to do 0-60 in less than a heartbeat . . . easy fill the back end with nitroglycerine and slam the liftgate. i find myself wondering which is the more stupid you for buying an underpowered for your needs apparently vehicle or me for wanting to ask you what the heck were you thinking for not considering it could be underpowered for what you need it to do. you might look for a better computer chip a some kind of supercharger there was one advertised in the group the other day or a vehicle with the engine you really need in it. so the cummins owners cant be too bright either. theyre always looking for more they should have bought 5-ton trucks. why i can get a hell of a lot more out of mine. do you have any idea how detuned these engines are apparently not. i just reread my previous post it was a lot harsher than intended sorry. these cummins have gobs of room for horsepower increases. i believe with the smarty program you can pick up in the area of 60 additional horsepower. im not bashing cummins. but leon just bought a dodge and asked a couple nice questions and said thank you and then... im sure budd is rereading his post too. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .
From : sqdancerlynn
suddenly without warning azwiley1 exclaimed 23-oct-06 1236 pm when i was stationed in the uk the rear red sometimes amber was a rear marker light that was used when driving in dense fog. they dont stop much may slow down some so you were required by law to have that else you get run over. the white one i am not sure about were shipping a ram srt-10 back to england after an engine rebuild and i noticed two lamps under the rear bumper. one white and the other red. whats the significance of these thanks ralph id guess the white one was a backup light. on my dakota they rewired the backup lights to be turn signals since it is apparently required that the turn signals be white. however backup lights are not required. i really missed mine imagine the ram owner added it so he could avoid knocking down buildings in the dark and yes the red one is a fog lamp. jmc .
From : bigironram
when i was stationed in the uk the rear red sometimes amber was a rear marker light that was used when driving in dense fog. they dont stop much may slow down some so you were required by law to have that else you get run over. the white one i am not sure about were shipping a ram srt-10 back to england after an engine rebuild and i noticed two lamps under the rear bumper. one white and the other red. whats the significance of these thanks ralph .
From : leroy
i was investigating this also. found an article on google that stated that the torque converters were balanced assemblies and it made no difference which one was used. only the weighted flex plate needed to be swapped remain with the 360.. they further stated that if you disassembled the 360 and balanced it internally then an unweighted flex plate should be used on it along with either torque converter. did i get some bad info gary i dont know. ive done the 93 to 97 318 swap the older 318 carb to later 360 tbiswap but i dont have any experience with the 360 magnum swap. i know the 360 magnum is externally balanced like the older one but its less external than it was. the only plan i have right now is a 5.7 hemi in my 360 ramcharger when the time comes. unless of course if the 6.1 hemi prices come down by then... .
From : leroy
i was investigating this also. found an article on google that stated that the torque converters were balanced assemblies and it made no difference which one was used. only the weighted flex plate needed to be swapped remain with the 360.. they further stated that if you disassembled the 360 and balanced it internally then an unweighted flex plate should be used on it along with either torque converter. did i get some bad info on sun 22 oct 2006 153729 -0500 bigironram bigironram@aol.com wrote i have a 92 4x4 auto 318 with a busted 318... bought it that way. i have a 360 engine i just bought from a wrecked 1500 1995 auto 4 x 4 ive done some research and know i have to have a 350 torque converter. my 95 harmonic balancer is damaged but i cant use the 318.. right my vin is 1b7gg23y8ns556379 what transmission do i have. im planning to go with the 92 computer the 92 fuel rail they have different fuel lines the 95 injectors the 92 starter the 92 exhaust headers they are still attached to the exhaust the 92 oil pan the 95 was damaged in the wreck any other issues earl groce advance nc i was bored and the swap is interesting so i went looking around for information and found this you will probably find helpful. note the information on the oil pan! http//www.dodgeforum.com/m440340/printable.htm leroy .
From : bigironram
budd cochran wrote you get a 239 cubic inch v-6 in a 4000+ pound vehicle and you want it to do 0-60 in less than a heartbeat . . . easy fill the back end with nitroglycerine and slam the liftgate. i find myself wondering which is the more stupid you for buying an underpowered for your needs apparently vehicle or me for wanting to ask you what the heck were you thinking for not considering it could be underpowered for what you need it to do. you might look for a better computer chip a some kind of supercharger there was one advertised in the group the other day or a vehicle with the engine you really need in it. so the cummins owners cant be too bright either. theyre always looking for more they should have bought 5-ton trucks. .
From : earl groce
i asked a similar question a while back and ill copy and paste the response i received from tom l. i used this method and it worked well. hope this is the answer your looking for. below is his response on my query for suggestions on mounting and probe location. for a single gauge the mopar srt-10 a-pillar is a good choice. available from genos garage http//www.genosgarage.com it will replace the stock a-pillar trim with one that has a molded-in gauge holder this is used from the factory on srt-10 rams to hold an oil temp. gauge. it retains your grab handle so theres no downside to using it. to match your trucks gauges either a dipricol although some myself included dont like the big white center cap or an isspro ev-series are the closest match to the factory gauges. i personally run an autometer phantom but thats because i went with a full compliment of autometer gauges. as for mounting the thermocouple you want it in the exhaust manifold where it will do the most good. drill/tap a hole right above the turbo mounting flange in the rear-most of the two passages. this will measure the egts from the rear cylinders which run a little hotter than the rest. start with a cooled-off engine and duct-tape off the exhaust tip then poke a small hole through the duct tape. you want to create some backpressure. next start the engine and while wearing gloves and goggles or a faceshield drill a 21/64 or 11/32 or even 5/16 will work - but 21/64 is the closest to the correct size into the manifold. all the chips will be blown back out at you so watch yourself but better at you than into your turbo. now you can shut the truck off remove the duct tape and let it cool a bit. get a 1/8-27 npt pipe tap and load up the flutes with grease. now carefully tap the hole you drilled. youll probably want to go 5-6 full turns on the tap to get the thread depth correct. turn the tap until it gets a bite of the metal and you feel good resistance to turning it. then back it off 1/4-turn and go forward again. that will break the chip off and embed it in the grease. you want to tap deep enough so that the probe threads in 3 full turns. once thats done just put the probe in and hook up its wiring to the gauge. do not cut the probe wires to length - coil up the excess underneath the dash. for lighting you can tap the larger-of-the-two orange/black wires from the headlamp switch this is the dimmer circuit. for a switched +12v you can tap the red wire from the cigarette lighter. for ground you can use the grounding screw on the lower dash frame behind the knee blocker panel. -- ---------------------------- -chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd real trucks dont need spark plugs. tom another question i thought to ask after i made the previous post. did you remove your turbo prior to drilling and tapping for the pyro or did you use the grease on the drill bit trick ive actually been leaning toward removing the turbo and placing it off to the side leaving the oil line intact. the only potential problem with that is that i dont have another turbo flange gasket which may not be an issue since the truck is only 3 months old. later kevin. .
From : earl groce
ok....ran the numbers....the tires you are running are 3.3% smaller than what is oem not optional equipment. the tires the other truck were running are 7.8% larger. a lot bigger difference than i thought it would be. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels yup just found it. oem is 245-75/16 with optional being 265-75/16 or 275-70/17. so 285-75/16 is closer to oem diameter i do believe. your speedo should read slightly higher than oem and going to the right size will bring your rpms down slightly for the same speed. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels id think the 01 was supposed to have 75 series tires not 70. check you owners manual. if that is the case your tires are actually smaller than oem. -- ------------------------------------------ laszlo almasi ----cool toys formerly carolina watercraft works ----mack daddy trailers ----ice angels i currently have lt245-70-r-16 on the truck....i saw another truck the same model and year with lt285-75r-16..........will using a slightly larger tire mess up gearing or affect the transmission automatic or rear diff thanks charlie the oc .
From : earl groce
i have an 01 manual quad cab ram and have noticed the last couple of times that i have put it in 4wd it has had a tough time disengaging. to disengage the 4wd i have had to back up. i have never had this problem before i use to be able to push in the clutch and shift it back in to 2wd and it disengaged fine. a friend suggested that i may have a vacuum leak and i could possibly hear it if i put on the break and crawled under the truck but he admitted he know very little about dodge. any suggestions to what the problem is is it something i need to get fixed promptly to avoid damage. thanks for any info. with winter on the way i will probably be using 4wd more. .
From : steve lusardi
about my oil pan...... the 360 pan is fairly damaged... its a rear sump pan. the old 318 pan is full of piston debris and antifreeze but its fine. its also a rear sump. the rear sump on the 360 looks bigger. will they interswap if i interswap the oil pick up if necessary for the depth. ie what is the real difference between the two oil pans that makes everyone say they will not swap. btw my transmission is a 46rh according to the local dodge dealer.... according to my vin number................ im working with a mopar expert that happens to work at the local autozone.. he told me to count the wire connections on the drivers side of the transmission. one wire plug = no over drive. two wire plugs = od 3 wire plugs = od plus lock up torque converter. mine has two wire plugs. he says i have to have a weighted something... either a weighted flex plate for $75 or a new weighted torque converter... also $75 bucks.guess i will go with the weighted torque converter. earl on mon 23 oct 2006 162112 +0200 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote earl i have done this swap on my 96. it was easy. only had 2 problems. the 318 is internally balanced and the 360 is externally balanced. so you must use the 360 balancer and the 360 flexplate. the torque converter doesnt matter. you may use the 318 computer but you must use the 360 injectors. please note the electric connectors for the injectors may be different. if so wire in the 360 connectors to the 318 harness. also make sure you have enough water temp sensors in the inlet manifold casting. i had 2 on the 318 and only one on the 360 so i drilled and tapped the manifold to accomodate the 318 harness. steve i have a 92 4x4 auto 318 with a busted 318... bought it that way. i have a 360 engine i just bought from a wrecked 1500 1995 auto 4 x 4 ive done some research and know i have to have a 350 torque converter. my 95 harmonic balancer is damaged but i cant use the 318.. right my vin is 1b7gg23y8ns556379 what transmission do i have. im planning to go with the 92 computer the 92 fuel rail they have different fuel lines the 95 injectors the 92 starter the 92 exhaust headers they are still attached to the exhaust the 92 oil pan the 95 was damaged in the wreck any other issues earl groce advance nc .