87 Dodge Van starting problems
From : stormin mormon
Q: on 21 mar 2007 042528 -0700 kaash kashifraza.tbm@gmail.com wrote 2007 was expected to be a tougher trading year than 2006 for the car sector and februarys sales figures shows that the prediction was accurate said sue robinson director of the rmi national franchised dealers association nfda part of the retail motor industry federation rmif commenting on car sales figures for february 2006. read more http//9updates.blogspot.com/2007/03/car-sales-slow-in-february-march-real.html make no mistake the worst is yet to come because the auto industry in general has a big storm on the horizon. how well they prepare for it will determine how well or if they survive it. ya heard it here first!! se ya cant help yourself. let him know they mentioned carswhile truck/pickup sales are up. ----------------- thetrollman.com .
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From : geekboy
- show quoted text - yeah i know i was a few short. trying to go from memory on most set ups that i have dealt with all of which were oem 7 speaker systems. if there are tweets up from man that has to make it pretty bright having that many speakers located in such close proximity to each other. let me see if i can find the exact location for you gentleman.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - that would be might white of you! i am still guessing three in the dash two 8 subs in the front doors two in the rear doors two in the rear deck lid two questionable.. your slightest request is my pleasure. bfg here ya go. the dash speakers are 2 way type so they count as four in the dash. one speaker in the front doors=2 the rear deck are again 2 way so that is another 4. the one subwoofer= 11 talk about fuzzy math but thats the deal.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - wow! . 222 332339 1174519899.569381.245340@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com additional info you might consider driving the toy and shipping the dodge. be reasistic 3k mile trip you will spend an extra $300-$400 on gas at todays prices this is an excellent point except that one of my riding partners is my german shepherd. i strapped his metal kennel into the bed of the truck last time and i think he loved being in the fresh air. he has about the same amount of room in the metal kennel that he would have in the back of the 4 runner. although it will be june meaning *hot* so he may need to be inside where its cooler. i love my buddy and his welfare is the most important part of the trip. this is the main reason that i plan on staying at koa campgrounds and what not so my buddy has room to run each night. thats the main reason for this topic though for me to explore options and choose the one that is the safest and most cost efficient. three years ago it cost me a little over $800 in gas to make the trip. if i drove the yota would still need a small uhaul but it can handle it just fine. toyota is a v6 automatic but generates pretty good horsepower and torque for a v6. on mar 21 355 pm azwiley1 azwil...@cox.net wrote on mar 21 333 pm wolfpack6 marinedad2...@gmail.com wrote when did they stop shipping vehicles in conus this has to be something with in the last two years. what pure and mindless bullshit that is just another way to fuck our service members over! its been at least 5-6 years how long ive been in because i distinctly remember being told on each move that the only places that government will pay to ship a vehicle to are oconus and then its only one. i hear you though when just about every family now owns two vehicles it does make these moves difficult sometimes. i would not be overly concerned with towing it. i towed a 12x6 u-haul trailer fully loaded from az to ny a few years ago using my 97 ram 1500 2wd 5.2l auto with absolutely no problems. the trailer even at some point in the trip had a brake hang and i didnt know it until i reached ny. got any idea what that trailer weighed loaded trying to make a comparison. as i said above i figure that with added weight of a trailer or dolly plus the 4runner i am figuring max about 6200# 5570# toyota plus trailer wt and thats probably a heavy estimate. i would not buy a hitch from u-haul only because they are so expensive. home depot wal-mart jc whitney area ll good places to go. i have always used reese and never had a lick of trouble. been looking on jc whitney myself. found this one http//www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/product/tf-browse/s-10101/pr-pproduct.catentryid2011895/p-2011895/n-111+10714+600007227/c-10614 .
From : Annonymous
on mar 21 416 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on mar 21 354 pm roy r...@home.net wrote on mar 21 205 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@alltel.net wrote on wed 21 mar 2007 113656 -0700 azwiley1 wrote on mar 21 1102 am roy r...@home.net wrote on mar 21 333 am roy r...@home.net wrote hey man in your charger what audio set up do you have regular or premium where are all your speakers located premium. 200 watt kicker subwoofer 276 watt amplifier. it has 11 speakers which are all over the place. i think some are doubles but are part of the 11 speaker count. a kicker system huh what year is it again 06 i thought that they had all changed over to the boston acoustics in 05 - 06 anyway 11 speakers three in dash one in each front door which shuold be subs two in rear deck one each rear doors tying to get an idea of the layout as i might buy one and want to play with a plan for the system i would put in. yup 06. it is not a bad system ive heard worse and heard better. guess it has to do with the configuration of the car. it cuts through the noise of the exhaust unless im really on it. you have the speaker layout about right i think. as i said i believe some are doubled for the total to hit eleven.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - cool. that means i could but one hell of a system in there and using the deck i am thinking about if i get a charger i will be able to run a front rear center and sub set up. by my count your missing 2 speakers in that count. possibly some flag tweeters at the a pillar or top of the door panel -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yeah i know i was a few short. trying to go from memory on most set ups that i have dealt with all of which were oem 7 speaker systems. if there are tweets up from man that has to make it pretty bright having that many speakers located in such close proximity to each other. let me see if i can find the exact location for you gentleman.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - that would be might white of you! i am still guessing three in the dash two 8 subs in the front doors two in the rear doors two in the rear deck lid two questionable.. your slightest request is my pleasure. bfg here ya go. the dash speakers are 2 way type so they count as four in the dash. one speaker in the front doors=2 the rear deck are again 2 way so that is another 4. the one subwoofer= 11 talk about fuzzy math but thats the deal.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - wow yup my thoughts as well. but with my hearing and at 80+mph it gets it done for me. .
From : stormin mormon
all of them generally. why do you think they are have rebates or insectives like free hemis dodge is pushing it is because sales are down. if sales where good there would be no incentives. in my opinion what realy started this big down fail for detriot was 9/11 in that when the sales went flat after that for a while they started massive incentives to move vehicles but it backfired on them because now they cannot sell cars without them and it slowly cut into the bottom line for all of detriot and then through is recent fuel price hikes detritos money making suvs have been not paying the bills. they should have bit the bullet then and waited the storm out then but then did not and help create this spiral they are in today. even now they still cling to suvs in new forms to try to restore profit all of detriot and one more good price surge in fuel to say 4 bucks a gallon in next year or so will kill demand for them almost 100% and will leave detriot in big trouble. gm is also making a additional big mistake with saturn which started life as a econbox car and now it is fully part of gm and the future focus for it is suvs too when the need for econobox is going to grow. the suv craze will die one day for sure the only question is when and detriot as a whole seems fixated on it never dying and when it does so may detriot if they do not get their ducks in a row soon. yes there is a very big storm brewing. ----------------- thesnoman.com . 222 332358 e4qdnwbtxzge85bnz2dnuvzveinz2d@comcast.com on wed 21 mar 2007 144901 -0400 roy roy@home.net wrote ya heard it here first!! se ya cant help yourself. no you are the one that cannot help themselves but we already know that. sad so sad. but now that you are paying attention and before you bury your head in the sand. explain the sensor on the v10!! ----------------- thetrollman.com .
From : stormin mormon
havnt checked that. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. on wed 21 mar 2007 182027 -0400 stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote 1987 dodge one ton b350. 318 cid engine. mileage is about 160000. ps/ pb. used to be a telephone company vehicle. then it was owned by a rental property guy who badly neglected it. a couple months ago my dodge van gave me all kinds of trouble would start and run and then when i was away from home it would slow and die. a couple minutes later it would restart and run for awhile. i tried all kinds of things but changing the air filter seemed to help the most. even once came home by tow truck. last week i decided to put the hand choke kit on. removed the pull off bimetal coil from the side of the carb and wired a hand choke cable to the side of the carb. pulled the wire off the bimetal coil. trashed the bimetal and screwed the plate back on to cover the end of the cable. left the little electrical wire hanging loose. tried to start the motor to see how it worked. started but just ever so barely. i tried a couple things like adjusting the timing. had the motor running but it was just barely. the spark was weak at the coil so i cleaned the low power wires at the coil. also cleaned the coil bracket that holds the coil to the motor. runs but barely. i could see that the egr valve was falling apart. couple days later. go get an egr and replace that. two bolts but oh what rusty bolts. got em finally. install the egr with the provided gasket and the little orifice restictor that most closely matched the orifice of the old egr. now to see if i could get the van running. wont start. the spark is good at the coil. i pulled a spark wire and put a spark plug on top of the valve cover. sparks but weak every now and again when cranking. but it also sparked when i turned the key off. even though the rotor was pointed some where else. hmm. not good. went to the parts store and bought new cap rotor wires. put them all on. motor still wont start. but ive got good spark at a plug on top of the valve cover. turn the distributer here and there while the motor is cranking and not even a hint of fire. tried a squirt of ether and that still doesnt help. the rotor turns with the starter so i think that indicates that the timing chain is still connected. i got the chilton manual out and confirmed the spark plug wiring. read through the troubleshooting section. none of that is doing much good. put in a new set of champion spark plugs still nothing. not even a hint of starting. its raining today and im not eager to get any wetter than i am already. im about at my wits end cant make much sense of this. what else comes to mind -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . with the timing marks aligned does the rotor point to the #1 plug wire on the cap .
From : geekboy
on 21 mar 2007 042528 -0700 kaash kashifraza.tbm@gmail.com wrote 2007 was expected to be a tougher trading year than 2006 for the car sector and februarys sales figures shows that the prediction was accurate said sue robinson director of the rmi national franchised dealers association nfda part of the retail motor industry federation rmif commenting on car sales figures for february 2006. read more http//9updates.blogspot.com/2007/03/car-sales-slow-in-february-march-rea l.html make no mistake the worst is yet to come because the auto industry in general has a big storm on the horizon. how well they prepare for it will determine how well or if they survive it. ya heard it here first!! se ya cant help yourself. let him know they mentioned carswhile truck/pickup sales are up. really care to back that up sure...just take a drive down to your local dealer. i was near a ford one recently when i realized it was mostly more than 50% trucks on the lot. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tbone
when i press on the accelerator the truck tried to move. it was like there was not enough power to move it. now what could this signify for those who dont know its a 2000 ctd. what i learned from my whole process was that i honestly needed a fsm and a hydraulic pressure gauge on ports to read exactly what the transmission was trying to do and when. http//www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/torqueflite-tom-hand.html if im not mistaken the basis for your transmission is the same as the old 727 plus electronics and the od unit on the end....so the diagrams on the above listed website helped explain to me the logic behind the deal. good luck and i hope a transmission rebuilder starts cruising this ng. . 222 332391 46030e69$0$501$4c368faf@roadrunner.com are you getting fuel -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on the 87 only had the spark module. which is fine; the plugs spark. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . ignition computer stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in message 1987 dodge one ton b350. 318 cid engine. mileage is about 160000. ps/ pb. used to be a telephone company vehicle. then it was owned by a rental property guy who badly neglected it. .
From : stormin mormon
think so. in any case ether didnt help. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. are you getting fuel -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in message on the 87 only had the spark module. which is fine; the plugs spark. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . ignition computer stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in message 1987 dodge one ton b350. 318 cid engine. mileage is about 160000. ps/ pb. used to be a telephone company vehicle. then it was owned by a rental property guy who badly neglected it. .
From : bill dunkenfield
stormin mormon wrote on the 87 only had the spark module. which is fine; the plugs spark. but do the plugs spark with a white or yellow arc jam .
From : stormin mormon
closer to white. it was a couple days ago. ive decided to junk the van and get anotehr one. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. stormin mormon wrote on the 87 only had the spark module. which is fine; the plugs spark. but do the plugs spark with a white or yellow arc jam .
From : stormin mormon
jim its dead! anyone want an old van in the western ny area make offer -- you come and haul the carcass away. -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. .. stormin mormon cayoung61-&spamblock*-@hotmail.com wrote in 1987 dodge one ton b350. 318 cid engine. mileage is about 160000. ps/ pb. used to be a telephone company vehicle. then it was owned by a rental property guy who badly neglected it. a couple months ago my dodge van gave me all kinds of trouble would start and run and then when i was away from home it would slow and die. a couple minutes later it would restart and run for awhile. i tried all kinds of things but changing the air filter seemed to help the most. even once came home by tow truck. last week i decided to put the hand choke kit on. removed the pull off bimetal coil from the side of the carb and wired a hand choke cable to the side of the carb. pulled the wire off the bimetal coil. trashed the bimetal and screwed the plate back on to cover the end of the cable. left the little electrical wire hanging loose. tried to start the motor to see how it worked. started but just ever so barely. i tried a couple things like adjusting the timing. had the motor running but it was just barely. the spark was weak at the coil so i cleaned the low power wires at the coil. also cleaned the coil bracket that holds the coil to the motor. runs but barely. i could see that the egr valve was falling apart. couple days later. go get an egr and replace that. two bolts but oh what rusty bolts. got em finally. install the egr with the provided gasket and the little orifice restictor that most closely matched the orifice of the old egr. now to see if i could get the van running. wont start. the spark is good at the coil. i pulled a spark wire and put a spark plug on top of the valve cover. sparks but weak every now and again when cranking. but it also sparked when i turned the key off. even though the rotor was pointed some where else. hmm. not good. went to the parts store and bought new cap rotor wires. put them all on. motor still wont start. but ive got good spark at a plug on top of the valve cover. turn the distributer here and there while the motor is cranking and not even a hint of fire. tried a squirt of ether and that still doesnt help. the rotor turns with the starter so i think that indicates that the timing chain is still connected. i got the chilton manual out and confirmed the spark plug wiring. read through the troubleshooting section. none of that is doing much good. put in a new set of champion spark plugs still nothing. not even a hint of starting. its raining today and im not eager to get any wetter than i am already. im about at my wits end cant make much sense of this. what else comes to mind -- christopher a. young you cant shout down a troll. you have to starve them. . .