48 RE DESIGNED TO FAIL???
From : geekboy
Q: it you would consider this very unjust. justice requires that the guilty be punished and the innocent be freed from blame. if an automobile driver ignores a stop sign at a busy intersection and gets into a bad accident as a result it is not the fault of the law. if a person becomes a glutton and gets sick from overeating it is not the fault of the farmer who grew the food. then why should the heavenly father god be blamed when mankind commits wrongs should not the blame be put where it belongs-on the guilty party also there is something else to consider. if we blame god for such things as starvation from food shortages whom do we credit for the productive fields and orchards that produce such bountiful crops in many lands if we blame god for sickness whom do we credit for the bodys marvelous healing systems if we blame god for city slums whom do we credit for majestic mountains clear lakes delightful flowers and beautiful trees clearly if we blame god for the worlds troubles and then credit him for the good things of the earth it is a contradiction. a loving god would not promote both good and bad at the same time. who then is to blame for the terrible things that have happened to the human family much of the blame must rest on people themselves. human dishonesty and frustration cause crimes. human pride and selfishness cause wrecked marriages hatreds and racial prejudices. human error and unconcern cause pollution and filth. human arrogance and stupidity cause wars; and when entire nations blindly follow political leaders into those wars then they must share the blame for the suffering. hunger and poverty are primarily due to human neglect and greed. consider the world now spends well over $200 billion each year on armaments. if all of this were properly spent on growing and equally distributing food and eliminating poor housing think what could be done! no god is not to blame for the wrongs that humans themselves commit. and he is not to blame for the wrongs blessed by clergymen who claim to serve god but who do not speak the truth or practice it. well then was there something wrong with the way god made mankind did he give the human race a bad start many people think that the answer to that question is yes. if god cared they reason would not the world be a very different place we look around and see a world full of war hatred and misery. and as individuals we get sick we suffer we lose loved ones in death. thus many say if god cared about us and our problems would he not prevent such things from happening worse yet religious teachers sometimes lead people to think that god is hardhearted. how so when tragedy strikes they say that it is gods will. in effect such teachers blame god for the bad things that happen. is that the truth about god what does the bible really teach james 113 answers when under trial let no one say i am being tried by god. for with evil things god cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. so god is never the source of the wickedness you see in the world around you. see job 3410-12 granted he does allow bad things to happen. but there is a big difference between allowing something to happen and causing it. for example think about a wise and loving father with a grown son who is still living at home with his parents. when the son becomes rebellious and decides to leave home his father does not stop him. the son pursues a bad way of life and gets into trouble. is the father the cause of his sons problems no. see luke 1511-13 similarly god has not stopped humans when they have chosen to pursue a bad course but he is not the cause of the problems that have resulted. surely then it would be unfair to blame god for all the troubles of mankind. god has good reasons for allowing mankind to follow a bad course. as our wise and powerful creator he does not have to explain his reasons to us. out of love however god does this. rest assured that god is not responsible for the problems we face. on the contrary he gives us the only hope for a solution!-see isaiah 332. furthermore god is holy. see isaiah 63 this means that he is pure and clean. there is no trace of badness in him. so we can trust him completely. that is more than we can say for humans who sometimes become corrupt. even the most honest human in authority often does not have the power to undo the damage that bad people do. but god is all-powerful. he can and will undo all the effects that wickedness has had on mankind. when god acts he will do so in a way that will end evil forever!-see psalm 379-11. klumze thanks budd!!! . 222 333310 46254d5f$0$9921$4c368faf@roadrunner.com talked to a good ol country boy at a trans shop. been working on trannys for years and years. i gave him the symptoms of the problem and he said it does sound like the torque converter. he said he even if it is just the torque it would be better to go ahead and
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From : Annonymous
on apr 17 415 pm klumze s...@yahoo.com wrote on apr 17 321 pm klumze s...@yahoo.com wrote god we ask that you be with these families come into their hearts tonight be with them let them feel your presence. we pray god that those who have fallen come unto you and your mercy be shown. in the name of our lordjesus christ. amen would that be the same god that stood by and allowed this to happen jam most people do not understand why god permits wickedness and so blame him for all the bad things that take place. they do not realize that mans inclination toward badness is not because of gods will but because of the sin of adam. see rom. 512 they may be unaware of the existence of satan the devil and of his influence on world affairs so they ascribe to god the vile things perpetrated by satan. see 1 john 519; rev. 1212 if they are to some extent aware of these things they may feel that god is slow about taking action because they do not see clearly the issue of universal sovereignty and do not grasp the fact that gods patience down till this time affords them an undeserved opportunity for salvation. see rom. 24; 2 pet. 39 also they do not fully realize that god has a set time when he will destroy forever all who practice wickedness.-see rev. 2210-12; 1118; hab. 23. if someone else committed a crime how would you feel if you were blamed for it you would consider this very unjust. justice requires that the guilty be punished and the innocent be freed from blame. if an automobile driver ignores a stop sign at a busy intersection and gets into a bad accident as a result it is not the fault of the law. if a person becomes a glutton and gets sick from overeating it is not the fault of the farmer who grew the food. then why should the heavenly father god be blamed when mankind commits wrongs should not the blame be put where it belongs-on the guilty party also there is something else to consider. if we blame god for such things as starvation from food shortages whom do we credit for the productive fields and orchards that produce such bountiful crops in many lands if we blame god for sickness whom do we credit for the bodys marvelous healing systems if we blame god for city slums whom do we credit for majestic mountains clear lakes delightful flowers and beautiful trees clearly if we blame god for the worlds troubles and then credit him for the good things of the earth it is a contradiction. a loving god would not promote both good and bad at the same time. who then is to blame for the terrible things that have happened to the human family much of the blame must rest on people themselves. human dishonesty and frustration cause crimes. human pride and selfishness cause wrecked marriages hatreds and racial prejudices. human error and unconcern cause pollution and filth. human arrogance and stupidity cause wars; and when entire nations blindly follow political leaders into those wars then they must share the blame for the suffering. hunger and poverty are primarily due to human neglect and greed. consider the world now spends well over $200 billion each year on armaments. if all of this were properly spent on growing and equally distributing food and eliminating poor housing think what could be done! no god is not to blame for the wrongs that humans themselves commit. and he is not to blame for the wrongs blessed by clergymen who claim to serve god but who do not speak the truth or practice it. well then was there something wrong with the way god made mankind did he give the human race a bad start many people think that the answer to that question is yes. if god cared they reason would not the world be a very different place we look around and see a world full of war hatred and misery. and as individuals we get sick we suffer we lose loved ones in death. thus many say if god cared about us and our problems would he not prevent such things from happening worse yet religious teachers sometimes lead people to think that god is hardhearted. how so when tragedy strikes they say that it is gods will. in effect such teachers blame god for the bad things that happen. is that the truth about god what does the bible really teach james 113 answers when under trial let no one say i am being tried by god. for with evil things god cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. so god is never the source of the wickedness you see in the world around you. see job 3410-12 granted he does allow bad things to happen. but there is a big difference between allowing something to happen and causing it. for example think about a wise and loving father with a grown son who is still living at home with his parents. when the son becomes rebellious and decides to leave home his father does not stop him. the son pursues a bad way of life and gets into trouble. is the father the cause of his sons problems no. see luke 1511-1
From : mike simmons
do me a favor and study possible scenarios if at least 1/4 of 50 people had a gun. first off a percentage will panic and unload anywhere. another percentage will unload on anything that moves. what do you base that on a few items of interest -floridas homicide rate dropped from 37% above the national average to 3% below the national average after the state changed its concealed carry law in 1987. -a study conducted by don b. kates jr. at the st. louis university school of law found that while police were successful in shooting or driving off criminals 68% of the time private citizens succeeded 83% of the time. and while 11% of the individuals involved in police shootings were later found to be innocent people who were misidentified as criminals only 2% of those in civilian shootings were misidentified. finally private citizens in urban areas encounter and kill up to 3 times as many criminals as do law enforcement personnel. -another goverment funded survey of 1874 felons conducted by peter rossi and james wright found that 40% of the felons said they decided not to commit a crime because the feared the citizen was carring a firearm. 34% had been scared off shot at wounded or captured by an armed citizen. i cant find the supporting evidence but i remember reading a study several years ago that if 10% of the population has a concealed firearm the crime rate drops dramatically. i dont think your scenario has much basis in fact. .
From : giskard reventlov
is this a manual or automagic transmission. i have the 6-speed in my 06 ram 2500 diesel. is this what i have in my truck --------------------------- 48 re designed to fail i have been building transmissions for over 25 years and the 48 re transmission is definitely stronger that the 47re as a lot of improvements have been made. however i am not impressed. we are already seeing failures in the 48 res. a $7 part is going to cost you guys by the time the dust settles if you are off your oem warranty over $2000. as a transmission technician i have to wonder what were these guys thinking. the guys that design these transmissions are at the top of their field you wont find any better. this is not a mistake they would make. someone had to make the decision to engineer this change into this transmission. it is reasonable to assume that if i can for see the damage the lack of lubrication will cause these guys must also know it. . so why the sudden change the existing design of this particular oem component was not failing. its design has been around longer than i have been building transmissions. it makes sense that if you have a problem with a certain part of the transmission you change it. so again one has to wonder why the sudden change please keep in mind this post is not intended to slam the 48re as they have had vast improvements made to them. this is not even an expensive parts fix the most important thing here is for the consumer to make sure that the shop and the technician doing the modification has the required expertise to fix it or at least they are aware of it before they do the job so you have the opportunity to choose which way you wish to go. here is why i do not like the new design and why it is causing the damage i am seeing. basically the thrust washer is starving itself for oil. what chrysler did is they drilled 6 holes at 120 thou in the rear annulus gear. what this allows to happen is as the planetary gear rotates the oil is forced out at a faster rate because it is fed by a single hole less than 60thou. to put it simply there is not enough oil to lubricate the thrust washer that separates the rear planetary gear and the rear annulus gear. to fix this requires a skilled professional about 2 hours labor once the transmission is out and on the bench and the valve body has been removed. the way the transmission is designed now all i can say is that the approx. life is about 50 thousand miles before you are going to start seeing rear planetary rear annulus gear and rear thrust washer failure. as we have not done a 48 in our personal shop with over 20000 miles the ones we have been doing are definitely showing signs of thrust washer damage already. however my dealer base general consumers and even other vendor shops have been contacting us for assistance with this issue. i will repeat the advice that i have given them to you guys it does not matter if your transmission vendor of choice is xy or z if the transmission is already out when you are doing the tc &vb make the change then. the oem part # for the thrust washer is 52854039aa. its about a $ 6 from your dealership. chances are your transmission guy will not have this part in his inventory so if you have it with you it could save you a couple of days. while it would definitely be in my best interest to not inform everyone in such a public forum as i know my competitors do read this forum i feel it is an important enough issue to bring to the general consumers attention. http//www.dieseltrans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.phpt=473 with pictures .
From : max dodge
iirc you have the aisin 6 spd. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author is this a manual or automagic transmission. i have the 6-speed in my 06 ram 2500 diesel. is this what i have in my truck --------------------------- 48 re designed to fail i have been building transmissions for over 25 years and the 48 re transmission is definitely stronger that the 47re as a lot of improvements have been made. however i am not impressed. we are already seeing failures in the 48 res. a $7 part is going to cost you guys by the time the dust settles if you are off your oem warranty over $2000. as a transmission technician i have to wonder what were these guys thinking. the guys that design these transmissions are at the top of their field you wont find any better. this is not a mistake they would make. someone had to make the decision to engineer this change into this transmission. it is reasonable to assume that if i can for see the damage the lack of lubrication will cause these guys must also know it. . so why the sudden change the existing design of this particular oem component was not failing. its design has been around longer than i have been building transmissions. it makes sense that if you have a problem with a certain part of the transmission you change it. so again one has to wonder why the sudden change please keep in mind this post is not intended to slam the 48re as they have had vast improvements made to them. this is not even an expensive parts fix the most important thing here is for the consumer to make sure that the shop and the technician doing the modification has the required expertise to fix it or at least they are aware of it before they do the job so you have the opportunity to choose which way you wish to go. here is why i do not like the new design and why it is causing the damage i am seeing. basically the thrust washer is starving itself for oil. what chrysler did is they drilled 6 holes at 120 thou in the rear annulus gear. what this allows to happen is as the planetary gear rotates the oil is forced out at a faster rate because it is fed by a single hole less than 60thou. to put it simply there is not enough oil to lubricate the thrust washer that separates the rear planetary gear and the rear annulus gear. to fix this requires a skilled professional about 2 hours labor once the transmission is out and on the bench and the valve body has been removed. the way the transmission is designed now all i can say is that the approx. life is about 50 thousand miles before you are going to start seeing rear planetary rear annulus gear and rear thrust washer failure. as we have not done a 48 in our personal shop with over 20000 miles the ones we have been doing are definitely showing signs of thrust washer damage already. however my dealer base general consumers and even other vendor shops have been contacting us for assistance with this issue. i will repeat the advice that i have given them to you guys it does not matter if your transmission vendor of choice is xy or z if the transmission is already out when you are doing the tc &vb make the change then. the oem part # for the thrust washer is 52854039aa. its about a $ 6 from your dealership. chances are your transmission guy will not have this part in his inventory so if you have it with you it could save you a couple of days. while it would definitely be in my best interest to not inform everyone in such a public forum as i know my competitors do read this forum i feel it is an important enough issue to bring to the general consumers attention. http//www.dieseltrans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.phpt=473 with pictures .
From : tom lawrence
on tue 17 apr 2007 174532 -0500 geekboy ner@nerdy.com wrote i found this in another forum written by bill koonaday sp of dtt in washington when the 48re was first out. he has turned out to be wrong so far. --------------------------- 48 re designed to fail i have been building transmissions for over 25 years and the 48 re transmission is definitely stronger that the 47re as a lot of improvements have been made. however i am not impressed. we are already seeing failures in the 48 res. a $7 part is going to cost you guys by the time the dust settles if you are off your oem warranty over $2000. as a transmission technician i have to wonder what were these guys thinking. the guys that design these transmissions are at the top of their field you wont find any better. this is not a mistake they would make. someone had to make the decision to engineer this change into this transmission. it is reasonable to assume that if i can for see the damage the lack of lubrication will cause these guys must also know it. . so why the sudden change the existing design of this particular oem component was not failing. its design has been around longer than i have been building transmissions. it makes sense that if you have a problem with a certain part of the transmission you change it. so again one
From : max dodge
very likely. the company has a decent reputaion in transmissions. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author @trndny04 iirc you have the aisin 6 spd. is that aisin as in the aisin locking hubs i had on my old toyota 4x4 p/u .
From : snoman
on fri 20 apr 2007 125413 gmt bill allemann custom4173@sbcglobal.netinvalid wrote anyone know the nox issues of biodiesel fuel compared to petroleum diesel yes it does create a bit more nox and even the chemist are not quite sure why. it is not 2 or 3x more but it is a noticable amount. ----------------- thesnoman.com .
From : max dodge
if he has a chassis-cab truck then yes. if its a regular pickup with the 6.7l engine then its the 68rfe i assumed he had a manual shift which i thought was aisin. now i recall the at in the ccs is aisin. what are they using now a getrag i pine for the good old days when one trans was good enough..... either way his trans is not the 48re. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author iirc you have the aisin 6 spd. if he has a chassis-cab truck then yes. if its a regular pickup with the 6.7l engine then its the 68rfe .
From : tom lawrence
i assumed he had a manual shift which i thought was aisin. now i recall the at in the ccs is aisin. what are they using now a getrag they use a getrag in the 1500s and a benz-sourced g56 lots of confusion when they first came out - people assumed the g in g56 meant getrag in the 2500/3500s. i pine for the good old days when one trans was good enough..... yeah... the aisin thing came about because chrysler really wanted to offer a 6spd auto with their newly-re-introduced chassis cabs but the 48rfe just wasnt quite ready and it didnt have pto capability to boot - something thats highly desired on a chassis cab. .
From : giskard reventlov
@trndny04 iirc you have the aisin 6 spd. is that aisin as in the aisin locking hubs i had on my old toyota 4x4 p/u .
From : tom lawrence
iirc you have the aisin 6 spd. if he has a chassis-cab truck then yes. if its a regular pickup with the 6.7l engine then its the 68rfe .
From : max dodge
there was a time when chysler had one of the finest automatic trannies out there. they seem to have lost focus in this area but they are not fully alone with this problem either. it all seem to be related to cost and cutting corners with them to save money when it should be one of the last areas you cut corners. you are aware of course that the 464748r* transmissions are the finest automatic trannies with an od unit bolted to the rear of the case right -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on fri 20 apr 2007 123546 gmt max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote i pine for the good old days when one trans was good enough..... there was a time when chysler had one of the finest automatic trannies out there. they seem to have lost focus in this area but they are not fully alone with this problem either. it all seem to be related to cost and cutting corners with them to save money when it should be one of the last areas you cut corners. ----------------- thesnoman.com .