47RE failure update.
From : geekboy
Q: on mar 21 205 pm chris thompson kf4drr-nos...@alltel.net wrote on wed 21 mar 2007 113656 -0700 azwiley1 wrote on mar 21 1102 am roy r...@home.net wrote on mar 21 333 am roy r...@home.net wrote hey man in your charger what audio set up do you have regular or premium where are all your speakers located premium. 200 watt kicker subwoofer 276 watt amplifier. it has 11 speakers which are all over the place. i think some are doubles but are part of the 11 speaker count. a kicker system huh what year is it again 06 i thought that they had all changed over to the boston acoustics in 05 - 06 anyway 11 speakers three in dash one in each front door which shuold be subs two in rear deck one each rear doors tying to get an idea of the layout as i might buy one and want to play with a plan for the system i would put in. yup 06. it is not a bad system ive heard worse and heard better. guess it has to do with the configuration of the car. it cuts through the noise of the exhaust unless im really on it. you have the speaker layout about right i think. as i said i believe some are doubled for the total to hit eleven.- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - cool. that means i could but one hell of a system in there and using the deck i am thinking about if i get a charger i will be able to run a front rear center and sub set up. by my count your missing 2 speakers in that count. possibly some flag tweeters at the a pillar or top of the door panel -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd- hide quoted text - - show quoted text - yeah i know i was a few short. trying to go from memory on most set ups that i have dealt with all of which were oem 7 speaker systems. if there are tweets up from man that has to make it pretty bright having that many speakers located in such close proximity to each other. .
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From : jon
rough spots of the trip and then trailer through the easy flat parts. if i do have to buy a class iv hitch anybody recommend a particular model or brand when did they stop shipping vehicles in conus this has to be something with in the last two years. what pure and mindless bullshit that is just another way to fuck our service members over! i would not be overly concerned with towing it. i towed a 12x6 u-haul trailer fully loaded from az to ny a few years ago using my 97 ram 1500 2wd 5.2l auto with absolutely no problems. the trailer even at some point in the trip had a brake hang and i didnt know it until i reached ny. i would not buy a hitch from u-haul only because they are so expensive. home depot wal-mart jc whitney area ll good places to go. i have always used reese and never had a lick of trouble. i was going to suggest a reese myself. having forgotten what vehicle he has to tow with ive assumed a 97 ram 1500 in my search. valley and drawtite both make good hitches too. heres a class iv from etrailer.com that looks reasonable. been a wile since i bought a reciever hitch. last couple of trucks already came with them. http//www.etrailer.com/pc-hv82520.htmvehicleid=19975638 -- chris 05 ctd 06 liberty crd . 222 332379 1174594526.888453.293990@l75g2000hse.googlegroups.com on mar 21 304 pm geekboy n...@nerdy.com wrote thanks to all who responded so far. last i posted was that the transmission was not engaging. this was based on my experience when i was sitting on a hill.the truck kept rolling back when in any gear. last night i tried to drive it again. this time i am on flat surface. when i press on the accelerator the truck tried to move. it was like there was not enough power to move it. now what could this signify for those who dont know its a 2000 ctd. what i learned from my whole process was that i honestly needed a fsm and a hydraulic pressure gauge on ports to read exactly what the transmission was trying to do and when. http//www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/torqueflite-tom-hand.html if im not mistaken the basis for your transmission is the same as the old 727 plus electronics and the od unit on the end....so the diagrams on the above listed website helped explain to me the logic behind the deal. good luck and i hope a transmission rebuilder starts cruising this ng. .
From : max dodge
sounds as though his rear clutch in the main transmission is gone. however since the direct clutch in the od is applied by a large spring its possible that the direct clutch in the od is shot as well. from his description of odd behavior id bet on the od direct failing but the rear clutch in the main trans is a close second in my long distance opinion. has any of the electronics been checked for codes or failure -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on mar 21 304 pm geekboy n...@nerdy.com wrote thanks to all who responded so far. last i posted was that the transmission was not engaging. this was based on my experience when i was sitting on a hill.the truck kept rolling back when in any gear. last night i tried to drive it again. this time i am on flat surface. when i press on the accelerator the truck tried to move. it was like there was not enough power to move it. now what could this signify for those who dont know its a 2000 ctd. what i learned from my whole process was that i honestly needed a fsm and a hydraulic pressure gauge on ports to read exactly what the transmission was trying to do and when. http//www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/torqueflite-tom-hand.html if im not mistaken the basis for your transmission is the same as the old 727 plus electronics and the od unit on the end....so the diagrams on the above listed website helped explain to me the logic behind the deal. good luck and i hope a transmission rebuilder starts cruising this ng. .
From : geekboy
sounds as though his rear clutch in the main transmission is gone. however since the direct clutch in the od is applied by a large spring its possible that the direct clutch in the od is shot as well. from his description of odd behavior id bet on the od direct failing but the rear clutch in the main trans is a close second in my long distance opinion. has any of the electronics been checked for codes or failure no codes. if the od had failed then why does it not run in any other gear including reverse personally i am starting to think it is a lack of fluid flow due to the symtoms not shifting up when it was moving and low trans temp at the sensor. of coure eventually it kept shifting down and got to second before i just had to pull over. after that it would not move anymore. 15 years ago i did rebuild a trans from a 79 chrysler i had. that was a different item. the 47re is about twice the size and a lot more stuff connected to it. and if i had done a crappy jpb of it i could have just run down to the salvage yard and gotten a different trans for $125. i will not be able to pull this thing alone if i had to and i dont think i will find that many re47s at a junk yard. in this case i would rather know what i should be looki
From : geekboy
on mar 21 304 pm geekboy n...@nerdy.com wrote thanks to all who responded so far. last i posted was that the transmission was not engaging. this was based on my experience when i was sitting on a hill.the truck kept rolling back when in any gear. last night i tried to drive it again. this time i am on flat surface. when i press on the accelerator the truck tried to move. it was like there was not enough power to move it. now what could this signify for those who dont know its a 2000 ctd. what i learned from my whole process was that i honestly needed a fsm and a hydraulic pressure gauge on ports to read exactly what the transmission was trying to do and when. http//www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/torqueflite-tom-hand.html if im not mistaken the basis for your transmission is the same as the old 727 plus electronics and the od unit on the end....so the diagrams on the above listed website helped explain to me the logic behind the deal. good luck and i hope a transmission rebuilder starts cruising this ng. i have looking for a diagram of the 47re without luck. that is a nice block diagram but specific parts would help me so i can find out where the possibly stuck valve is. .
From : tbone
hey max could a blown tc cause this my nissan had the same problem and thats what it turned out to be. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving sounds as though his rear clutch in the main transmission is gone. however since the direct clutch in the od is applied by a large spring its possible that the direct clutch in the od is shot as well. from his description of odd behavior id bet on the od direct failing but the rear clutch in the main trans is a close second in my long distance opinion. has any of the electronics been checked for codes or failure -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author on mar 21 304 pm geekboy n...@nerdy.com wrote thanks to all who responded so far. last i posted was that the transmission was not engaging. this was based on my experience when i was sitting on a hill.the truck kept rolling back when in any gear. last night
From : tom lawrence
if the od had failed then why does it not run in any other gear including reverse no he said the od direct clutch. think of the od unit as a two-speed transmission. theres one speed thats 11 - thats the direct clutch. the second speed is the .691 overdrive. thats the overdrive clutch. one or the other has to be applied to get power to transfer through the unit. personally i am starting to think it is a lack of fluid flow due to the symtoms yes thats certainly a possibility. thats what pressure tests are for. get a set of pressure gauges 100psi and 300psi and appropriate fittings theyre all 1/8 npt and a service manual and perform some pressure tests. after checking the fluid level of course. 15 years ago i did rebuild a trans from a 79 chrysler i had. that was a different item. the 47re is about twice the size and a lot more stuff connected to it. not really. minus the overdrive unit and the electronics on the valve body its basically the same transmission. .
From : max dodge
a failed tc could cause this certainly. but it would be an mechanical malfunction since any disintegration of the interior would likely lock the tc up. it might physically shove the tcc closed if given the chance. however if he lost the stator roller clutch that might exhibit symptoms similar to what hes got. that would allow the stator to reverse its rotation killing the fluid flow and thus power transfer. the first thing id do would be to check the hydraulics as toml suggests then check the pan for debris. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author hey max could a blown tc cause this my nissan had the same problem and thats what it turned out to be. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving sounds as though his rear clutch in the main transmission is gone. however since the direct clutch in the od is applied by a large spring its possible that the direct clutch in the od is shot as well. from his description of od