4.7 VS Hemi in quatermile
From : bubkat05
Q: told me he still had to play with the timing chain a little to get it smooth. the driving that is theres nothing to play with. you set the engine to tdc #1 compression align the timing marks and put the gears on. heres another thing that makes me think dodge is stupid. he called them because he was confused as to what was going on. dodge told him he should not have to adjust the timing chain because once you got it in it was just automatic set from the get go. no - whats automatic is the ignition timing based upon the camshaft position sensor. hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............if that was true then why was there such a noticeable difference after he messed with it a second time because he didnt have the gears aligned properly the first time - that parts fairly obvious. he was saying the cat could possibly be causing the problem. i just have a gut feeling thats not gonna help the problem though a plugged cat certainly affects performance. it sounds like yours is split and depending on how badly ie. how much of an exhaust leak its created that could also affect the engines performance. i get the feeling the guy that is working on the truck definately knows his stuff but he and i are kind of wondering where to go from here did you ever pull the diagnostic codes thats usually the first thing you do before playing musical engine parts. find out exactly what the engines unhappy about. so he thinks the hiccups are somehow being caused by the cpu trying to compensate for something or other.......he makes it sound realistic. i dont think hes bsing me i think hes just confused like me sure sounds that way. again pull the codes.... so i/we are here to seek help. anybody have any suggestions ideas fixes something he should have done but maybe didnt yeah not to sound like a broken record or anything but... - pull the codes. on a 96 you can turn the ignition on-off-on-off-on and watch the check engine light. it will flash the codes. each code is two digits. for example if you see flash flash pause flash long pause thats a code 21. do it a couple of times because its easy to mis-read a code. look them up in a service manual on various web sites or post them back here. .
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From : tom lawrence
on sat 28 jun 2003 224107 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote http//www.pureluckdesign.com/other/rta96c/index.htm check this out. kinda makes the ole cummins look like a tinker toy!! denny needs more torque.... could you hit 6 million with a k&n .
From : bdk
it uses as air starter -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving on sat 28 jun 2003 224107 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote http//www.pureluckdesign.com/other/rta96c/index.htm check this out. kinda makes the ole cummins look like a tinker toy!! denny and id like to see the battery that turns it over! beekeep .
From : gwb
that sum bitch in the ferd scratched the bumper and bent the ladder! this one is a ford but i doubt a dodge would have fared any better. http//www.pureluckdesign.com/other/squish/ maybe it was nates beekeep .
From : kf4toh
get a moped .
From : kirby
the advice tom lawrence suggests is sound but you should also check the timing. i am not a dodge expert but on chevrolets there is a white wire behind the distributor that you must unplug when setting the timing. unplugging said wire disables the automatic timing control from the computer. this way you can physically set the base timing via rotating the distributor. then you can plug the automatic timing back in and let the computer manage the timing from then on. so in addition to the stuff tom suggests like pulling the engine fault codes i would definately ensure that the timing is set correctly. -- steve dont really know where to start. myself i know zilch about trucks or cars. a friend is doing some work on my 96 dodge dakota pickup truck. 6 cylinder. it was bought brand new and has almost 100000 miles on it now. for some reason or other i figured it would be a good idea to get a major tune up on the truck but was hell bent on not letting dodge touch the truck. why a year ago someone hits the truck in the front right. needed some major body work. picked it up from the body shop and it almost would not run. would cut off at every stop light die stall out etc...etc.... the incompetent idiots at the dodge dealership said i needed a new throttle body. $$ cha-ching then when that didnt fix the problem all of a sudden i needed a new fuel pump. $$cha ching. then they called and told me it was fixed and come and get it. wouldnt even make out of the parking lot before it cut off again. tried to bs me into believing it still had air in the system because of the fuel pump. i apparently do have stupid written on my forehead i told them......thats fine........you get the air out and get it running right then call me back when its really ready!!!! talked to the head service dude and he told me he was going to put his top man on the job. and he was good but i cant remember his name anyway he calls me and says....you have a wreck in it right yes. where did you get hit again right front. guess where your cpu is for the engine right front yes.......ill check the cpu which is what should have been done first duh it was a broken cpu from the wreck............ so hell no........dodge will never touch my truck again! so i get a buddy to do a major tune up. new plugs wires distributer cap etc...etc....oh yeah......and i also really did need a new timing chain for it and he did that too......all for under $450. not bad if you ask me. certainly much better than any prices i got as i called around. anyway so heres the problem. soon as i start the engine the check engine light comes on. the truck was very jerky in driving.....like it was having hiccups or something if you just slowly accelerate. sometimes it does more than others but it does it in every gear. now when i first got it back he told me he still had to play with the timing chain a little to get it smooth. the driving that is fair enough...im in no hurry and hes my buddy. hes not going anywhere either and he wants to make me happy because he wants my future business. so it was bad at first..........then he came and worked on it adjusted the timing and it was much much better......but it still has some hiccups every now and then and the check engine light is still on. heres another thing that makes me think dodge is stupid. he called them because he was confused as to what was going on. dodge told him he should not have to adjust the timing chain because once you got it in it was just automatic set from the get go. hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............if that was true then why was there such a noticeable difference after he messed with it a second time it should have made no difference according to dodge but whatever. anyway the trucks catalytic converter needs badly to be replaced because it has come lose from the weld apparently after the wreck and he says if was him hed get a new one. so i say......lets get that fixed first.......and see if that changes anything. he was saying the cat could possibly be causing the problem. i just have a gut feeling thats not gonna help the problem though i get the feeling the guy that is working on the truck definately knows his stuff but he and i are kind of wondering where to go from here hes fixing the cat today or replacing i should say but i know my luck and that wont solve the driving problem. its still going to have small hiccups. interestingly if you get on it......its a beautiful thing it goes.......no hiccups. if you baby it up to speed you feel the hiccups sometimes worse than others. he thinks maybe it has something to do with new chain not having the play in it that my old chain did. he tells me old chain was extremely lose probably because of the wreck in addition to just everyday use and that i was very luck it didnt just break so he thinks the hiccups are somehow being caused by th
From : dan j s
i already resealed the brake light up top and there is still water in the truck. also sprayed a high pressure hose directly into the ac drain and no water came out inside the truck so i dont think it is the ac drain. doesnt that kinda mean your drain hose is plugged nowhere for the condensate to drain except onto your carpet i have seen some articles on the net about the rear window leaking so i am thinking of having it replaced. any other ideas please post. m 97 ram kingcab....passenger side flooring is wet. i have checked and rechecked cant find a drip anywhere. have sprayed a high pressure hose at it in the rear window and both passenger side windows with no visible leaks. pulled the center upper brake light and sealed it with rtv silicone. rained again yesterday and carpets on passenger side are damp again this morning. it does have a sliding rear window that when you spray a hose directly at the center seam it leaks a little but the water does not appear to be going toward the passenger side. is it possible the water is coming in from underneath it is not an ac drain leak because the carpeting is dry up under the dash and the ac drain drips outside just fine so it is not clogged. i am thinking of having the rear window replaced or at least re-sealed. any one have any other suggestions m reseal the third brake light. roy .
From : duane anne
what is the 5.7 hemi 0-60 on a ram 1500 anyone know. still around 9 secs dont know how you figure that but i have run my 03 hemi truck down the 1/8 mile track running stock tires and hi test gas i run solid mid 8s at about 90 mph i have a little wheel spin at the line so someday i might try it with slicks may get into the low 8s then stock 03 with the swb black i know it eats the 5.0 m- tangs lunch every time thats the best part of the whole night !!! joe joe the best 0-60 for a dodge ram 1500 with a hemi that i found was 8.3 seconds. some places go as high as 9.8 seconds for the review. i only test drove a 5.7 hemi i do not own one. however 5.0 mustangs losing to a ram 1500 is a little suspect. especially if the ram is stock. dan .
From : paul l
want to install something on my trans fluid pan that could send the temp to the gauge on dash so that i can see the trans temp on my dodge ram 1500. i am sure you can rig up a sensor to work like you want it to. but then the computer will think your trans temp is the eng temp and set the fuel to the wrong mixture. under towing conditions the pcm may think the engine is overheating due to the higher temp in the trans pan. the best way to set that up is to get a mehcanical gauge. first install a fitting into the trans pan then run the mechanical wire up the gauge mounted under the dash. james1549 .
From : paul l
sounds like your system needs to be burped. lots of chat in here about there being a big air bubble in the radiator hose and lots of mechanics not burping the bubble out. fmb i had some work done on the cooling system of my 96 dodge ram 1500 with 5.9l engine. now the heater core makes a gurgling noise for a while whenever the engine is started and the revs get above idle. it goes away after driving for a while but returns on startup after the engine has been off for a while. it has always made this noise to some extent but since the cooing system has been opened it is much worse. any cure dj .
From : bdk
your probably hosed anyway since you added that sealer crap. no shop is going to let you off the hook easy when they have their recycle tank contaminated with your bandaid. take a look at the blend door to make sure you are getting air flow across the evaporator. if the holse is cold and pressures are okay you probably dont have a restriction oon cooolant flow.. since you have a cold low pressure hose your image not mine the simple fix may be in the blower system not the pressurized coolant system. good luck! 97 dodge ram - has pressure reading in the correct range from what my gauge says when i hook up to the low pressure side. put in a can of stop leak/leak detector nothing shows up. the low pressure line thru the firewall gets cold enough to get condensation in just a couple of minutes of running but i dont get any cold air in the cab. any ideas on what to check before i pry open the wallet and have it looked at by a professional .
From : Annonymous
duane and anne guess its a man or macho thing. here are some interesting numbers. 03 chevy ss 03ram1500 03 ford harley.. 0-403.19 3.38 3.14 0-504.82 4.04 4.30 0-606.62 6.83 5.96 0-708.63 8.83 7.70 0-8012.09 11.98 9.77 0-10020.22 20.85 16.16 1/4 14.99/89.05 15.12/89.06 14.39/96.33 and thats a regular cab ram against much larger competition is the hemi overated or what great add campaign though. and the need for a 4-5000lb truck to do well in the quarter mile would be on 29 jun 2003 063921 gmt bubkat05@aol.com bubkat05 wrote how well would the 4.7 do .
From : matt kinsinger
duane and anne guess its a man or macho thing. here are some interesting numbers. 03 chevy ss 03ram1500 03 ford harley.. 0-40 3.19 3.38 3.14 0-50 4.82 4.04 4.30 0-60 6.62 6.83 5.96 0-70 8.63 8.83 7.70 0-80 12.09 11.98 9.77 0-100 20.22 20.85 16.16 1/4 14.99/89.05 15.12/89.06 14.39/96.33 and thats a regular cab ram against much larger competition is the hemi overated or what great add campaign though. yeah but.... the hemi ram is quite common you see them on every corner at least around here. how often do you see ss chevies and harley fords compare the everday hemi ram with the everyday chevies and fords and what numbers do you have .
From : matt kinsinger
but the truth is none of them run those numbers in the real world and truth be told the ss is normally slower than the ram but theyre essentialy equal which i can accept $40k+ truck set up for racing vs. $18-$38k real truck not made for racing. i can accpet it being as fast. as for the harley boosted vs naturally aspirated comparisons are never fair. but again the money and race setup thing. -- http//www.highoctaneracing.com/ not your average car club. http//www.dodgetruckworld.com/mygallery.aspid=4620 duane and anne guess its a man or macho thing. here are some interesting numbers. 03 chevy ss 03ram1500 03 ford harley.. 0-40 3.19 3.38 3.14 0-50 4.82 4.04 4.30 0-60 6.62 6.83 5.96 0-70 8.63 8.83 7.70 0-80 12.09 11.98 9.77 0-100 20.22 20.85 16.16 1/4 14.99/89.05 15.12/89.06 14.39/96.33 and thats a regular cab ram against much larger competition is the hemi overated or what great add campaign though. and the need for a 4-5000lb truck to do well in the quarter mile would be on 29 jun 2003 063921 gmt bubkat05@aol.com bubkat05 wrote how well would the 4.7 do .
From : Annonymous
i guess the comparison is unfare as the ss and harley are limited production models.on fri 24 oct 2003 135624 gmt matt kinsinger mrk20@uakron.edu wrote but the truth is none of them run those numbers in the real world and truth be told the ss is normally slower than the ram but theyre essentialy equal which i can accept $40k+ truck set up for racing vs. $18-$38k real truck not made for racing. i can accpet it being as fast. as for the harley boosted vs naturally aspirated comparisons are never fair. but again the money and race setup thing. .
From : jeff mayner
duane and anne guess its a man or macho thing. here are some interesting numbers. 03 chevy ss 03ram1500 03 ford harley.. 0-40 3.19 3.38 3.14 0-50 4.82 4.04 4.30 0-60 6.62 6.83 5.96 0-70 8.63 8.83 7.70 0-80 12.09 11.98 9.77 0-100 20.22 20.85 16.16 1/4 14.99/89.05 15.12/89.06 14.39/96.33 and thats a regular cab ram against much larger competition is the hemi overated or what great add campaign though. and the price difference is what really in that article they even said that buying the chevy made no sense because of its price tag. the c3 is only a couple of grand more with more engine. jeff and the need for a 4-5000lb truck to do well in the quarter mile would be on 29 jun 2003 063921 gmt bubkat05@aol.com bubkat05 wrote how well would the 4.7 do .
From : kirby
hands down the hemi is the best bang for the buck truck out there. to the orginal question the 4.7 would lose. figure a hemi is in the low 15s and a 4.7 would be in the low 16s jeff mayner wrote duane and anne guess its a man or macho thing. here are some interesting numbers. 03 chevy ss 03ram1500 03 ford harley.. 0-40 3.19 3.38 3.14 0-50 4.82 4.04 4.30 0-60 6.62 6.83 5.96 0-70 8.63 8.83 7.70 0-80 12.09 11.98 9.77 0-100 20.22 20.85 16.16 1/4 14.99/89.05 15.12/89.06 14.39/96.33 and thats a regular cab ram against much larger competition is the hemi overated or what great add campaign though. and the price difference is what really in that article they even said that buying the chevy made no sense because of its price tag. the c3 is only a couple of grand more with more engine. jeff and the need for a 4-5000lb truck to do well in the quarter mile would be on 29 jun 2003 063921 gmt bubkat05@aol.com bubkat05 wrote how well would the 4.7 do .
From : moparman
on fri 18 jul 2003 014815 gmt budd cochran mr-d150@citlink.net wrote my point that you have finally admitted you overloaded you van with beehives drove over rough terrain with the load your neighborhood was hilly the last time i looked and didnt use a trans cooler bet you left the od turned on also and have the total stupidity to blame chrysler corp because the trans failed. and you still cant spell. budd thats total bullshit and you know it. beekeep .
From : mac davis
on thu 17 jul 2003 233049 gmt denny wddodge@woh.rr.com wrote on wed 16 jul 2003 000839 gmt roy roy@home.net wrote are you sure you dont have some woman in you somewhere vbg denny okayya furry cheapshot artist. you get to buy the first round ! vbg roy shit dont tell him that bro... hes into ammo! very small very fast ammo with a cute little plastic tip........ vbg denny hes into ammo with condoms! .
From : mrdancermrdancermrdancer
durangos and hemies hmmmm. you can buy the ho cams for your 4.7 for yeah but the hemi engines are available only in the new durangos iirc. those durangos are significantly larger and heavier than the old durangos so i doubt youll see *much* benefit with the hemi engine relative to say a 2003 4.7 durango. .