360 thermostat location

From : carolina watercraft works

Q: wow and i thought the 4.7 was a dohc yep single - same with the 3.7. the 5.7 could have been designed as a dohc because of the hemispherical combustion chamber but they decided to go the simpler route and do an ohv setup instead. .

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From : joe

2001 1500 ram 4x4 appx 60k miles. my dashboard has developed many cracks. several are about to intersect such that large pieces of the dash will likely fall off. anyone else had similar issues any thoughts on the cost of a replacement dash and the task to replace thanks o. .

From : bo

steve scott wrote anyone have a recommendation for a good source for a 360 long block hughes performance. jasper engines. dodge dealer. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tbone

hello i am looking real close at a 2001 slt plus with 24000mi and a 2002 r/t with 36000mi. i am hearing alot about ball joint rear end transmission ac and brake problems with these suvs is there any truth or are they just internet rumors. can anyone let me know what i should look for before i step up and buy one. thanks .

From : john

are there other usual suspects i should check the cel is not lit and it does work as indicated upon startup. does this mean reading codes would be unproductive thanks martin might you have gotten water into the fuel run the tank down and then refill with clean fuel and add fi cleaner/water displacer/etc. see if that helps. now i have seen people pick up literally gallons of water at stations where the tanks have flooded. if this ever happens no amount of chemical additive will help. you have to remove the tank clean it and refill. other possible faults include electrical particularly ignition fuel pump yep maybe again crumbling vacuum hoses and others. .

From : steve w

the liberty crd isnt the prettyiest girl at the dance but it is a great wifey vehicle. for towing you just cant beat a diesel. you didnt give any stats on your pontoon boat just make sure it weighs less than the crds capabilities. once you go diesel you never go back. i read a review in our paper here last week on the new liberty diesel. they hated it. said it struggled for power and kept over heating. they tried two and both over heated on uphill grades. id like to see more reviews to see if this was just a fluke. .

From : max dodge

burning fuel efficiently means its burning correctly which also means its at optimum power output for the amount of fuel input. say thats sounds like a performance objective.....maybe the engine is tuned to pass a sniffer and its making its best power okay - but if the sniff test is done at idle what about engines with big lopey cams that are most efficient at 4000-5000rpm or so and run super-rich at idle if left tuned for best top-end performance theyll surely fail the sniff test. thus - the owners lean the snot out of them get a pass sticker pull over two blocks from the center richen it back up and light em up for 2 city blocks many states are using a dyno to run the engine up and test at idle and 2000-4000 rpm. fail any part of it and your done. also add in that some states also do a visual inspection and will fail you for illegal parts that way as well. i am betting that many more states will go to this method as the feds tighten the grip. -- steve w. ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : tom lawrence

1 put a scanner on it and see if the lock-unlock is commanded or not 2 until you determine that all speculation is useless hi all just picked up another cummins diesel wrapped in a 94 dodge 2500 2wd truck with auto trans. trans shifts fine but the torque convertor does not stay locked up - except when you are going up hill.....get to the top of the hill and it starts locking/un locking. this is not the overdrive but the convertor. it would seem like a sensor or positioner or something is out of spec or adjustment. ive only put 60 miles on it. on a flat road it locks then unlocks back and forth whether you do 55 or 75. any suggestions thanks .

From : tbone

on sat 30 jul 2005 183225 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa now thats a pretty big assumption. so what happens when you put parts other than the specified parts in mr. brainsurgeon d-oh. when you swap to a lower-temp thermostat you are changing to a non-specified part you are making modications that will affect emissions i hopw this helps with your obvious comprehension difficulty the only comprehension difficulty i have at this point is understanding how an idiot like you can actually operate a computer. but wonders never cease eh ah come on and give the poor bastard a break. it only took him eight grueling years to get through tranny school at high school tech. now he thinks he has a doctorate. the only reason he passed was that he out grew the other kids and could no longer fit the desk. no that is why he is no longer there. i doubt that he passed. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : max dodge

i replaced mine as well....thumping is gone 100%. now to get rid of the clicking. maybe replacing the ball joints will help cure that issue. those will be in day after tomorrow so thatll be a weekend project. then the dt track bar goes in. not much left to replace after this round. http//www.borgeson.com/ http//quad4x4.com/dodge%20frt%20axle&steering.htm http//www.dtprofab.com/ -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. finally repalced the intermediate sterring shaft today. clunking/popping is gone completely. got a borgeson. i have a dodge ram 1500 4x4 1999. i recently took it to the shop because while driving i can feel through the steering wheel all sorts of thuds and thumps that feels like its coming from near the end of the steering column. going around long corners i can really feel it. itll thump on and off throughout the whole corner. sometimes ill feel it just driving straight. its not a vibration or shimmy. one way i can try to explain it is it feels like someone is lightly tapping the steering column with a rubber hammer. its sporadic and holds no type of rhythm. so the guy in the shop says well your upper and lower ball joints have some play in it your tie-rod end has some play in it your wheel bearings have some play in it your track bar has some play in it. so i assumed he knew what he was taking about.... so after finding out that my guardian insurance plan paid for almost $600 of these repairs i had him do it all. the problem is still there. i couldnt believe it. i almost have a brand new front end basically. but yet the thumping knocking general unsafe feeling is still there. i just put new rotors calipers and pads on the front both sides. so its not a break vibration. i dont know much about this part of the truck so do you guys have any suggestions on where this could be coming from thanks steve .

From : beekeep

yea at that particular time which with a little creative tuning has nothing to do with what is normally comming out of the tailpipe every other day of the year. ok...... really it can be temporarily tuned to burn fuel far more efficiently than it actually does under normal conditions which is dishonest now isnt it burning fuel efficiently means its burning correctly which also means its at optimum power output for the amount of fuel input. say thats sounds like a performance objective.....maybe the engine is tuned to pass a sniffer and its making its best power if you are worried that someone will modify after being checked with a sniffer all the other tests and inspections suffer the same flaw. i am not worried about it but it does happen and while it can still happen with many of the current inspections many of the more recent ones make it much more difficult to do especially the odbii one. bullshit you arent worried about it both your previous statements say exactly that you are thinking someone will cheat on a sniffer test. talk about spin you say twice that someone could tune to pass the test and retune for the rest of the year. then when i say someone could do it to any test you say you arent worried about people cheating. wtf decide what you think then write ok at least with the sniff test we know the car is meeting the emissions regs not just looking like it will. it means no such thing unless of course the person owning the car is honest and brings the car for inspection tuned the way it is the rest of the time. gee there is that honesty thing again. gee theres that im not worried about it but i keep mentioning it thing again. face it if its a matter of tuning and we have proof that the car is not putting out excessive emissions its probably not far from that the rest of the year. its certainly better than a it looks like itll pass but we have no idea whats coming out of the tailpipe. in that scenario we have to worry about cheating but we also have to worry that the stuff isnt working even though its there. i can see your argument going circular so ill let you blabber away at this point. ive made my point even if you are too dense to understand it. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the problem with just the sniff test is that it requires people to be honest and actually care and unfortunantly that is something that fewer and fewer people are these days. the sniff test tells exactly whats coming out the tailpipe. yea at that particular time which with a little creative tuning has nothing to do with what is normally comming out of the tailpipe every other day of the year. no honesty factor about it the engine cannot burn what is not there. really it can be temporarily tuned to burn fuel far more efficiently than it actually does under normal conditions which is dishonest now isnt it if you are worried that someone will modify after being checked with a sniffer all the other tests and inspections suffer the same flaw. i am not worried about it but it does happen and while it can still happen with many of the current inspections many of the more recent ones make it much more difficult to do especially the odbii one. at least with the sniff test we know the car is meeting the emissions regs not just looking like it will. it means no such thing unless of course the person owning the car is honest and brings the car for inspection tuned the way it is the rest of the time. gee there is that honesty thing again. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

my 99 just started cracking both fascia and dash. has 65k miles. 2001 1500 ram 4x4 appx 60k miles. my dashboard has developed many cracks. several are about to intersect such that large pieces of the dash will likely fall off. anyone else had similar issues any thoughts on the cost of a replacement dash and the task to replace thanks o. .

From : tbone

if the info from www.lubedealer.com/hiebert is correct http//www.amsoil.com/scripts/runisa.dllamsoiloafindex you should be able to get the gf-195 from amsoil. use 1-800-956-5695 and catalog# 324582 tomorrow am 700 am till 500 pm c.d.time .

From : transurgeon

henry email me with your vin and i will get the info and email it to you. mike i have my eye on a 2001 1500 powered by a 5.9 l. on a quick check it looked to have all the extras...xlt extended cab 4x4... 34 k miles... hitch says 10k lbs center loaded car fax verifies milage etc. they want 17.5k. my question can i find all options installed by using vin on the net as an aside.. this has a carpet thing on the dash held by velcro strips glued to dash....looks like a nevermind. if i buy i wou;d like to remove the velcro parts glued to the dash without dammage/ discoloration.. my main questions are options.... limited slip towing package....skid plates etc ! henry in public... thank you sir. .

From : tbone

since a couple of weeks when i am around 70mph and if i roll on a bad conditionsorry for the english road suddently the van have a big vibration but as soon as i remove my feet from the gaz it came normal it is not a ball joint can-it be an engine support something in the direction thanks .

From : joe

i do not think it will hold up because it was not designed to operate at low rpms under a high torque levels countinously. interesting of you to say that. the loadflite trans has 4 discs in the front clutch and 4 in the rear. similarly the 47re has the same number and is essentially the same transmission. since the 47re is the dodge transmission assigned to cummins duty and it has the same clutch configuration as the loadflite one will likely perform as well as the other. however since the op mentioned that his parking brake was integral with the output shaft of the trans its very possible he has a loadflite a345 which was a four speed at but with no od. a good way to find this out would be to know if he had a park position on his dash indicator. no park and its an a345. there would be torque converter stall speed issues too given the diesel limited rpm range. better off with the 440 in the motor home if you want to keep that tranny. while the tc would be an issue its not hard to get a lower stall convertor in todays aftermarket. clearly cost isnt a big issue if the cummins is under consideration. furthermore its interesting to note that if the a345 is in fact what he has a 47re will fit in that location due to the longer case of the a345. further it would eliminate a cable actuated parking brake and put in a positive locking park position with pawl inside the trans rather than out where weather plays a part. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge wrote bolt pattern may hold this up but otherwise it should work. internally the loadflite is pretty much the same trans just with more clutches. things youll want to consider space for the cummins itll be taller and longer than the 440. fuel system youll need a lift pump appropriate engine controls depending on model of engine and a return line to the tank as diesels have to have one of these. exhaust system space for the larger diameter pipe and heat shields for the turbo and exhaust manifold. intake space for the intercooler and filter box as well as the plumbing. i do not think it will hold up because it was not designed to operate at low rpms under a high torque levels countinously. there would be torque converter stall speed issues too given the diesel limited rpm range. better off with the 440 in the motor home if you want to keep that tranny. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-cummins-diesel-compatible-loadflite-727-ftopict131260.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=639017 .

From : transurgeon

roy roy@home.net wrote in as does the sheer ignorance of yours. comeback of the year. whoa. yeah i figured youd be right on that. care for the last word or will you be providing proof of your claims awaiting your display of brilliance that would be game set and match. glad to see ya havent lost your touch max. gbmfg have to start a new best friend list for ya. roy wow roys actually trying to keep score. another lively weekend eh no need to keep score. you talk about a lively weekend you have around 15 posts over the past couple of days dancing for max. guess you are having one. keep up the entertainment ill check back on ya tonight and turn out the lights. whatever floats your boat bucko. have a good one. .

From : roy

$ng6.199453@attbis22 max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in and im sure you have proof of this so why not post the information its simply not worth the time. so you simply dont have it do you i mean its worth the time to reply to a one line quip with a worn out line of your own but to supply proof is beynd your limited time resources i think the regulars can see where this is going. the last word is yours..... if youve got time that is. max if you dont buy it thats fine - youre not important enough for me to give a rats ass about it. obviously he is he has you dancing like the trained pup you are... another one without a life. lol! .

From : joe

henry email me with your vin and i will get the info and email it to you. mike i have my eye on a 2001 1500 powered by a 5.9 l. on a quick check it looked to have all the extras...xlt extended cab 4x4... 34 k miles... hitch says 10k lbs center loaded car fax verifies milage etc. they want 17.5k. my question can i find all options installed by using vin on the net as an aside.. this has a carpet thing on the dash held by velcro strips glued to dash....looks like a nevermind. if i buy i wou;d like to remove the velcro parts glued to the dash without dammage/ discoloration.. my main questions are options.... limited slip towing package....skid plates etc ! henry .

From : joe

craig wrote i am looking for a new vehicle for my gal as well. i have done quite a bit of research on the liberty and i have pretty much decided that we are going to get it. you can get a fully loaded liberty with the diesel for under 30k right now. she wont even know its a diesel ... it is unbelievably quiet. why spend more $$ on the durango and get poor fuel economy plus the diesel will last longer than a gas engine. craig c. the diesel liberty would be sweet and use about 1/2 the fuel on the average that a dakota will doing the same chores over the life of the vehical which can up up to thousands of dollars quickly. as pontoon boats are not that heavy unless they are very large and if they are that big even a 5.7 durango would struggle with the wind drag of one that big while getting 7 or 8 mpg while doing it. the diesel liberty would tow better because it has the torque at lower rpms where yo need it to move the load. the 5.7 look impressive on paper but with a power peak of 5400 rpm and a torque peak at 4200 rpm it is greatly over rated for towing. -- posted using the http//www.autoforumz.com interface at authors request articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards topic url http//www.autoforumz.com/dodge-liberty-crd-durango-family-vehicle-wife-ftopict131178.html visit topic url to contact author reg. reqd. report abuse http//www.autoforumz.com/eform.phpp=638850 .

From : beekeep

max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in and im sure you have proof of this so why not post the information its simply not worth the time. so you simply dont have it do you i mean its worth the time to reply to a one line quip with a worn out line of your own but to supply proof is beynd your limited time resources i think the regulars can see where this is going. the last word is yours..... if youve got time that is. max if you dont buy it thats fine - youre not important enough for me to give a rats ass about it. .

From : beekeep

take the vin to your local dodge dealers parts dept. ask for a print out if the parts guy isnt a total asshole he will do it for you i have my eye on a 2001 1500 powered by a 5.9 l. on a quick check it looked to have all the extras...xlt extended cab 4x4... 34 k miles... hitch says 10k lbs center loaded car fax verifies milage etc. they want 17.5k. my question can i find all options installed by using vin on the net as an aside.. this has a carpet thing on the dash held by velcro strips glued to dash....looks like a nevermind. if i buy i wou;d like to remove the velcro parts glued to the dash without dammage/ discoloration.. my main questions are options.... limited slip towing package....skid plates etc ! henry .

From : max dodge

on sat 30 jul 2005 183225 gmt joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa now thats a pretty big assumption. so what happens when you put parts other than the specified parts in mr. brainsurgeon d-oh. when you swap to a lower-temp thermostat you are changing to a non-specified part you are making modications that will affect emissions i hopw this helps with your obvious comprehension difficulty the only comprehension difficulty i have at this point is understanding how an idiot like you can actually operate a computer. but wonders never cease eh ah come on and give the poor bastard a break. it only took him eight grueling years to get through tranny school at high school tech. now he thinks he has a doctorate. the only reason he passed was that he out grew the other kids and could no longer fit the desk. beekeep .

From : tbone

i pulled the carpet off and didnt see any cracks..... i want to take off the glued on strips off the dash.....a solvent that wont dammage the vinal thanks though. henry my question can i find all options installed by using vin on the net no - but your dealer can give you a complete options list if you give them the vin. as an aside.. this has a carpet thing on the dash held by velcro strips glued to dash....looks like a nevermind. yeah - a dashmat. usually put on to cover up cracks in the dash. .

From : tbone

the problem with just the sniff test is that it requires people to be honest and actually care and unfortunantly that is something that fewer and fewer people are these days. the sniff test tells exactly whats coming out the tailpipe. no honesty factor about it the engine cannot burn what is not there. if you are worried that someone will modify after being checked with a sniffer all the other tests and inspections suffer the same flaw. at least with the sniff test we know the car is meeting the emissions regs not just looking like it will. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. the problem with just the sniff test is that it requires people to be honest and actually care and unfortunantly that is something that fewer and fewer people are these days. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving ps. im ready to remove the catalytic converters and dual out the exhaust now after seeing all these epa commies in here. ben we arent the enemy ben just telling you what the rules say. im all in favor of allowing mods and doing a simple sniff test. after all the important part is what comes out the tailpipe not whats under the hood. but the laws arent written that way. and everyone who is in this hobby deserves to know what the rules are so they can find the best ways to avoid detection. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .bob bob my 360s basically stock with a 185 thermo and it runs great. a/c on idling in traffic and 93 degrees outside is no problem at all. mileage hasnt changed at all from the 195 thermo - still 14 mpg overall. bob do you have a link to the hypertech what octane are you using at the pump joe 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc 93 mustang lx 5.0 hatch with a few goodies www.hypertech.com there are two levels of tune available with the hypertech 89 and 91 octane. i tried them both. 89 made a huge difference over stock and got better fuel mileage. 91 didnt seem to make any additional improvements but required premium fuel and got worse mileage. so i run mid grade all the time. even when towing. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project ive had the 160 degree thermostat in my 98 durango for a couple weeks now and unless its cool outside its not going to stay at 160 degrees. yesterday with temps above 85 degrees mine would stay in the middle of the temp range on the gauge. if its sitting at idle in the heat its going to be in the middle range. the only time that it actually stays at 160 degrees the little mark on the left side of guage is when its in the 70s outside and moving. that hypertech programmer might be nice to fix the tire ratio. my 98 was supposed to come with some 15 rims but someone had already put a set of the 16 inch aluminum on there like the newer dakotas and durangos have. my speedometer actually shows that it is going around 1.5 mph faster than it actually is or so says my gps receiver. oh yeah the trip computer on my durango shows that it was averaging 16.5 mpg on the interstate @ 70 mph yesterday and that was with 3.92 gears ; and no i dont know if thats accurate. itll get even higher mpg @ 55 mph on that trip computer. ps. im ready to remove the catalytic converters and dual out the exhaust now after seeing all these epa commies in here. ben .

From : roy

i have my eye on a 2001 1500 powered by a 5.9 l. on a quick check it looked to have all the extras...xlt extended cab 4x4... 34 k miles... hitch says 10k lbs center loaded car fax verifies milage etc. they want 17.5k. my question can i find all options installed by using vin on the net as an aside.. this has a carpet thing on the dash held by velcro strips glued to dash....looks like a nevermind. if i buy i wou;d like to remove the velcro parts glued to the dash without dammage/ discoloration.. my main questions are options.... limited slip towing package....skid plates etc ! henry .

From : aarcuda69062

as does the sheer ignorance of yours. comeback of the year. whoa. yeah i figured youd be right on that. care for the last word or will you be providing proof of your claims awaiting your display of brilliance that would be game set and match. glad to see ya havent lost your touch max. gbmfg have to start a new best friend list for ya. roy -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. @trnddc07 lol! wtf are you talking about the sheer brilliance of your post just shines through... right. as does the sheer ignorance of yours. comeback of the year. whoa. .

From : max dodge

i have a dodge motorhome with a 440-3 and a 727 lodeflite transmission. it is my understanding that the lodeflight is internally a completely different transmission than a torqueflite 727. the lodeflite is beefed up for heavy duty use. loadflight is a fancy name for the torqueflight when installed in trucks the internals are no different than those found in many big block v8 cars of the same era. i would like to replace the 440 with a 5.9 cummins turbodiesel and i would like to keep the transmission if possible in order to keep the driveshaft emergency brake and in order to avoid modifying the driveshaft. is it possible to mate a cummins diesel to a 727 if so is it advisable the 727 37rh used with the cummins has a unique bellhousing bolt pattern so a unit from behind a 440 wont bolt up. your output shaft/tailhousing assembly could be swapped into a diesel case to maintain your parking brake and mainshaft. it would be wise to retain only the shaft and housing from your 440 trans and use as much of the diesel internals as possible especially the governor assembly which is designed for much lower shift speeds. .

From : max dodge

@trnddc07 and to all that i say um sure. whatever. using the wrong plugs will affect your emissions in a negative way. and im sure you have proof of this so why not post the information its simply not worth the time. .

From : max dodge

joe avoidingspam@nospam.com wrote transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa now thats a pretty big assumption. so what happens when you put parts other than the specified parts in mr. brainsurgeon d-oh. why would anyone do that .

From : tbone

and im sure you have proof of this so why not post the information its simply not worth the time. so you simply dont have it do you i mean its worth the time to reply to a one line quip with a worn out line of your own but to supply proof is beynd your limited time resources i think the regulars can see where this is going. the last word is yours..... if youve got time that is. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. @trnddc07 and to all that i say um sure. whatever. using the wrong plugs will affect your emissions in a negative way. and im sure you have proof of this so why not post the information its simply not worth the time. .

From : joe

transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa now thats a pretty big assumption. so what happens when you put parts other than the specified parts in mr. brainsurgeon d-oh. when you swap to a lower-temp thermostat you are changing to a non-specified part you are making modications that will affect emissions i hopw this helps with your obvious comprehension difficulty the only comprehension difficulty i have at this point is understanding how an idiot like you can actually operate a computer. but wonders never cease eh ok now you will be getting the cleaning bill for my monitor and keyboard and you owe me another cup of coffee - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : joe

emailed ya i sent you an e-mail. mine is still popping and i need to fix it or itll never sell popping. then again im growing rather fond of it and may keep it. whered you get your borgeson replacement and how much part # thanks ben finally repalced the intermediate sterring shaft today. clunking/popping is gone completely. got a borgeson. i have a dodge ram 1500 4x4 1999. i recently took it to the shop because while driving i can feel through the steering wheel all sorts of thuds and thumps that feels like its coming from near the end of the steering column. going around long corners i can really feel it. itll thump on and off throughout the whole corner. sometimes ill feel it just driving straight. its not a vibration or shimmy. one way i can try to explain it is it feels like someone is lightly tapping the steering column with a rubber hammer. its sporadic and holds no type of rhythm. so the guy in the shop says well your upper and lower ball

From : joe

some play in it your tie-rod end has some play in it your wheel bearings have some play in it your track bar has some play in it. so i assumed he knew what he was taking about.... so after finding out that my guardian insurance plan paid for almost $600 of these repairs i had him do it all. the problem is still there. i couldnt believe it. i almost have a brand new front end basically. but yet the thumping knocking general unsafe feeling is still there. i just put new rotors calipers and pads on the front both sides. so its not a break vibration. i dont know much about this part of the truck so do you guys have any suggestions on where this could be coming from thanks steve . 222 303869 ajpge.42609$sj4.30940@big5.bellsouth.net @trnddc07 lol! wtf are you talking about the sheer brilliance of your post just shines through... right. as does the sheer ignorance of yours. comeback of the year. whoa. .

From : transurgeon

finally repalced the intermediate sterring shaft today. clunking/popping is gone completely. got a borgeson. i have a dodge ram 1500 4x4 1999. i recently took it to the shop because while driving i can feel through the steering wheel all sorts of thuds and thumps that feels like its coming from near the end of the steering column. going around long corners i can really feel it. itll thump on and off throughout the whole corner. sometimes ill feel it just driving straight. its not a vibration or shimmy. one way i can try to explain it is it feels like someone is lightly tapping the steering column with a rubber hammer. its sporadic and holds no type of rhythm. so the guy in the shop says well your upper and lower ball joints have some play in it your tie-rod end has some play in it your wheel bearings have some play in it your track bar has some play in it. so i assumed he knew what he was taking about.... so after finding out that my guardian insurance plan paid for almost $600 of these repairs i had him do it all. the problem is still there. i couldnt believe it. i almost have a brand new front end basically. but yet the thumping knocking general unsafe feeling is still there. i just put new rotors calipers and pads on the front both sides. so its not a break vibration. i dont know much about this part of the truck so do you guys have any suggestions on where this could be coming from thanks steve .

From : joe

on fri 29 jul 2005 024119 gmt christopher thompson kf4drr@earthlink.net wrote alright heres the deal. shes yellin wants a new car. so im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango she wants to have plenty of seating for our 2 kids one 4 and one 7 months comfortable for her to drive to work everyday she drives 35 min mostly highway. but also wants to pull the pontoon boat when we go camping this would increase the number of times we go as if we decide to take the camper and the boat it means 4 round trips for me and the truck 2 to go up and 2 to go back so this is what im asking..... im looking for input/personal experiance with each what motor/trans setup would you suggest pros/cons. i have owned a 1964 dodge pu a 1978 van 1965 dodge dart 1966 chevy pu 1974 grand prix 1996 grand am and now a 2003 dodge durango... all of the above had their drawbacks but the durango has somehow combined all the good and minimized the bad. the major plus having 3 outlets for electrical units..i can have decently fresh coffee on caming trips good radio contact and watch a bit of entertainment although nature does better most of the time while relaxing at the campsite. i have made more friends also with this vehicle and thus now have people willing to join me on camping trips...good thing im not a serial killer .

From : max dodge

transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa now thats a pretty big assumption. so what happens when you put parts other than the specified parts in mr. brainsurgeon d-oh. when you swap to a lower-temp thermostat you are changing to a non-specified part you are making modications that will affect emissions i hopw this helps with your obvious comprehension difficulty the only comprehension difficulty i have at this point is understanding how an idiot like you can actually operate a computer. but wonders never cease eh lol! wtf are you talking about the sheer brilliance of your post just shines through... right. $x96.6726@attbis72 wrong brainiac you are not changing to a non-specified part try again using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in message your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : max dodge

ps. im ready to remove the catalytic converters and dual out the exhaust now after seeing all these epa commies in here. ben we arent the enemy ben just telling you what the rules say. im all in favor of allowing mods and doing a simple sniff test. after all the important part is what comes out the tailpipe not whats under the hood. but the laws arent written that way. and everyone who is in this hobby deserves to know what the rules are so they can find the best ways to avoid detection. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. .bob bob my 360s basically stock with a 185 thermo and it runs great. a/c on idling in traffic and 93 degrees outside is no problem at all. mileage hasnt changed at all from the 195 thermo - still 14 mpg overall. bob do you have a link to the hypertech what octane are you using at the pump joe 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc 93 mustang lx 5.0 hatch with a few goodies www.hypertech.com there are two levels of tune available with the hypertech 89 and 91 octane. i tried them both. 89 made a huge difference over stock and got better fuel mileage. 91 didnt seem to make any additional improvements but required premium fuel and got worse mileage. so i run mid grade all the time. even when towing. -- .bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project ive had the 160 degree thermostat in my 98 durango for a couple weeks now and unless its cool outside its not going to stay at 160 degrees. yesterday with temps above 85 degrees mine would stay in the middle of the temp range on the gauge. if its sitting at idle in the heat its going to be in the middle range. the only time that it actually stays at 160 degrees the little mark on the left side of guage is when its in the 70s outside and moving. that hypertech programmer might be nice to fix the tire ratio. my 98 was supposed to come with some 15 rims but someone had already put a set of the 16 inch aluminum on there like the newer dakotas and durangos have. my speedometer actually shows that it is going around 1.5 mph faster than it actually is or so says my gps receiver. oh yeah the trip computer on my durango shows that it was averaging 16.5 mpg on the interstate @ 70 mph yesterday and that was with 3.92 gears ; and no i dont know if thats accurate. itll get even higher mpg @ 55 mph on that trip computer. ps. im ready to remove the catalytic converters and dual out the exhaust now after seeing all these epa commies in here. ben .

From : joe

carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in hey joe....a kill-file is a great thing to have for groups. nah its fun to read everything. .

From : ben in tn

i sent you an e-mail. mine is still popping and i need to fix it or itll never sell popping. then again im growing rather fond of it and may keep it. whered you get your borgeson replacement and how much part # thanks ben finally repalced the intermediate sterring shaft today. clunking/popping is gone completely. got a borgeson. i have a dodge ram 1500 4x4 1999. i recently took it to the shop because while driving i can feel through the steering wheel all sorts of thuds and thumps that feels like its coming from near the end of the steering column. going around long corners i can really feel it. itll thump on and off throughout the whole corner. sometimes ill feel it just driving straight. its not a vibration or shimmy. one way i can try to explain it is it feels like someone is lightly tapping the steering column with a rubber hammer. its sporadic and holds no type of rhythm. so the guy in the shop says well your upper and lower ball joints have some play in it your tie-rod end has some play in it your wheel bearings have some play in it your track bar has some play in it. so i assumed he knew what he was taking about.... so after finding out that my guardian insurance plan paid for almost $600 of these repairs i had him do it all. the problem is still there. i couldnt believe it. i almost have a brand new front end basically. but yet the thumping knocking general unsafe feeling is still there. i just put new rotors calipers and pads on the front both sides. so its not a break vibration. i dont know much about this part of the truck so do you guys have any suggestions on where this could be coming from thanks steve .

From : max dodge

help! i recently had a complete primary instrument cluster failure. the speedometer fuel temperature digital odometer and digital shift indicator all stopped working....it does come back sporadically...usually lasting for a several seconds enough to glance at the fuel guage! then goes out again. secondary instruments all work including the warning panel above the primary cluster. check engine light is also illuminated....vehicle running fine.....might this indicate the cluster problem fuses look good. i even removed for about twenty minutes or so the iod fuse from the fuse box under the hood....hoping this might clear any computer/communication glitches...unsuccessful. any help/experiences appreciated. thanks! sw the same thing happened about 4 years ago to my wifes 94 shadow. i removed the instrument cluster it was one unit. there is a female plastic plug that the cluster plugs into. two things were happening the heat from the dash had expanded the plug causing a loose connection. the lose connection in turn rubbed through the copper strips that make the connection. to correct it i bent the connector pins in the female plug down to make better contact then to repair the copper strip on the male end. i used some metallic copper pc board repair it is liquid like fingernail polish and brushed it on. the mail ends are nothing more than copper glued on plastic do not solder or it will melt. i have had no problem since. -- coasty remove the spooge to reply .

From : transurgeon

have you considered a quad cab truck with a pickup based camper excellent recommendation! although i use my trailer http//inlinediesel.com/trucks/3gen/1/index.html primarily for work when its time to play the trailer becomes a toy hauler for my and the kids 4 wheelers. i hope to actually be able to take a day off soon so that i can start pricing slide in campers. -- nathan w. collier http//inlinediesel.com http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com .

From : joe

once more einstein when you change plugs and wires you are replacing with a specified partthat is the same as the original in the eyes of the epa when you swap to a lower-temp thermostat you are changing to a non-specified part you are making modications that will affect emissions i hopw this helps with your obvious comprehension difficulty lol! wtf are you talking about the sheer brilliance of your post just shines through... right. $x96.6726@attbis72 wrong brainiac you are not changing to a non-specified part try again using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : transurgeon

on fri 29 jul 2005 110630 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. the repair has been effected and all is good....included the kill-file addition. -- heres a tip - dont feed the greasemonkey! aaawww...........whasssamtter greggy-poo feeling left out or is the discussion over your head again .

From : transurgeon

on fri 29 jul 2005 135653 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. but that wouldnt have been gary being gary. he is what he is. hi greggy still being an asshole eh .

From : transurgeon

sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. um yeah ok sure...... uh yeah hullo... spark plugs are heat ranged to be self cleaning. the range is generally accepted to be about 300-400 degrees wide and could be 500 to 900c or 700-1000f depending on your preference for measurement. given the wide range of operation changing a heat range whether purposeful or by accident will not appreciably alter the emissions of a vehicle since the purpose is to burn off deposits of what is already in the cylinder. spark plugs do not alter the operating temp of an engine which is the greatest influence on emissions for a number of reasons but instead alter the temp at which the plug disappates heat. thus one engine model may be fine with stock plugs in one application but may need a different heat range plug in another application. one example might be the ford 5.4 often used in police applications. in a police cruiser it may be necessary to have a hotter plug due to the relatively lazy way the car is used slow patrols stopped and watching. conversely the same model may be used in another pd and be used for highway patrol and need a cooler plug. thus swapping plugs is not a real factor on emissions but is a definite factor in maintenance of the spark plugs. if you wish to reach a bit certainly you could claim the lack of maintenance on a cool set of plugs or the pre-ignition caused by too hot a plug would affect emissions. however between the two there is plenty of space to roam. so again i say um yeah ok sure whatever.... guess ill never live in pa. no loss. or cali. by what ive read so far thats 3 down and 47 to go. at what point will you decide to live in another country simply based on emissions regs that have very little effect on overall power -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. um yeah ok sure...... uh yeah hullo... so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. actually pa has just enacted legislation to do exactly that with a visual inspection. now since its still up to private enterprise to do the inspections......they may or may not check everything including the thermostat. those new handheld thermometer guns are wonderful arent they ill readily agree its ridiculous. but the fact is if they actually enforce the regs and someone will at some point do exactly that then the thermostat is fair game. what i see here is a bunch of people saying well yeah it might be considered against the rules if they catch us. great so for no appreciable gain and to the possible detriment of the pcm programming yall are gonna change the stat ten degrees is worth that much trouble and i mean the hassle of changing the stat not the bullshit regs in some cases i suppose it might be. guess ill never live in pa. no loss. .

From : transurgeon

max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. ny does on vehicles that are tested. the new computer system actually helps in that respect since it can bring up data on what is supposed to be on the vehicle in regards to emissions controls. then you just look it over and see if those parts are there. as for mods that are considered tampering. chips injector changes exhaust mods ahead of the cat. some air intake kits thermostat altering are on the list. ny now plugs into your vehicle and runs it. they check to see what parameters are out of spec. and how far. they also look at trouble codes and drive cycles if for example you just cleared a trouble code and havent driven through a drive cycle they can make you take it out and drive it and retest. upstate has just started with the onboard testing of vehicles with obd ports. i can see the full dyno testing coming real soon. it also checks the ecm id against what is supposed to be there .

From : joe

wrong brainiac you are not changing to a non-specified part try again using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : joe

help! i recently had a complete primary instrument cluster failure. the speedometer fuel temperature digital odometer and digital shift indicator all stopped working....it does come back sporadically...usually lasting for a several seconds enough to glance at the fuel guage! then goes out again. secondary instruments all work including the warning panel above the primary cluster. check engine light is also illuminated....vehicle running fine.....might this indicate the cluster problem fuses look good. i even removed for about twenty minutes or so the iod fuse from the fuse box under the hood....hoping this might clear any computer/communication glitches...unsuccessful. any help/experiences appreciated. thanks! sw .

From : joe

steve w. dugdug56@what.com wrote in max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. ny does on vehicles that are tested. the new computer system actually helps in that respect since it can bring up data on what is supposed to be on the vehicle in regards to emissions controls. then you just look it over and see if those parts are there. as for mods that are considered tampering. chips injector changes exhaust mods ahead of the cat. some air intake kits thermostat altering are on the list. ny now plugs into your vehicle and runs it. they check to see what parameters are out of spec. and how far. they also look at trouble codes and drive cycles if for example you just cleared a trouble code and havent driven through a drive cycle they can make you take it out and drive it and retest. upstate has just started with the onboard testing of vehicles with obd ports. i can see the full dyno testing coming real soon. and ill never live in ny either. again no loss. .

From : steve w

christopher thompson wrote and yes we would be open to considering other vehicles but at the moment seems like the 2 shes liking best is the liberty and durango although she mentions from time to time the chev tahoe. since you like camping and want to pull a boat too have you considered a quad cab truck with a pickup based camper that way you wouldnt need to make 4 round trips as you mentioned since you could take the camper and boat at the same time and when not camping you could leave the camper home. john .

From : bob

max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. ny does on vehicles that are tested. the new computer system actually helps in that respect since it can bring up data on what is supposed to be on the vehicle in regards to emissions controls. then you just look it over and see if those parts are there. as for mods that are considered tampering. chips injector changes exhaust mods ahead of the cat. some air intake kits thermostat altering are on the list. ny now plugs into your vehicle and runs it. they check to see what parameters are out of spec. and how far. they also look at trouble codes and drive cycles if for example you just cleared a trouble code and havent driven through a drive cycle they can make you take it out and drive it and retest. upstate has just started with the onboard testing of vehicles with obd ports. i can see the full dyno testing coming real soon. ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : max dodge

and yes we would be open to considering other vehicles but at the moment seems like the 2 shes liking best is the liberty and durango although she mentions from time to time the chev tahoe. if you plan to pull your pontoon boat with it and your pontoon boat gave an f150 any trouble at all even a little bit! then brother youre looking at the wrong vehicles. more important than being able to pull it is being able to control it in an emergency hard steer. if it let you know its back there on an f150 its most likely going to boss the crd/durango around like a girly little bitch. with the big 3 all offering employee pricing you just cant go wrong. i would recommend you seriously consider a full size 1/2 ton minimum truck/suv like the expedition/tahoe/suburban/full size van or step on up to the plate and bring her home a 2500 cummins. if a new durango is in your budget so is a ram. -- nathan w. collier http//inlinediesel.com http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com .

From : joe

steve w. dugdug56@what.com wrote in transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... personally i dont give a rats ass because theres no inspection here not that it wouldnt pass anyway. when its 95 out and im in stand-still traffic and the a/cs on full blast i want the truck to run a bit cooler so ill use the 180. end of story. yep so what if it fucks the rest of the folks. who cares. hell maybe we should all drive like the bitch who just killed 5 kids in upstate because she wanted to drive 80 plus. and hit a truck killing herself and the 5 kids. whoa slight tangent maybe back off the caffein a bit. .

From : joe

joe wrote .bob bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net wrote in carolina watercraft works wrote its my understanding that a 185 degree stat will really help the 360 perform better. is that not quite the case yes and no. on a stock engine it will probably perform worse because the computer thinks the engine is still cold. it will run rich idle poorly and get crappy mileage. guess how i know this since trying that experiment and quickly reversing the process i used a hypertech programmer. this advances timing and adds a smidgen more fuel. that worked great but on a hot day or when towing i would get pinging at heavy throttle. so i went back to the 180* thermostat and added a bottle of water wetter. truck doesnt get as hot and no pinging. last time i towed on a hot day i abused the engine a little to try and make it ping - it didnt. other than that i notice no difference at all in operation. so bottom line stock engines should use stock thermostat. my 360s basically stock with a 185 thermo and it runs great. a/c on idling in traffic and 93 degrees outside is no problem at all. mileage hasnt changed at all from the 195 thermo - still 14 mpg overall. bob do you have a link to the hypertech what octane are you using at the pump joe 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc 93 mustang lx 5.0 hatch with a few goodies www.hypertech.com there are two levels of tune available with the hypertech 89 and 91 octane. i tried them both. 89 made a huge difference over stock and got better fuel mileage. 91 didnt seem to make any additional improvements but required premium fuel and got worse mileage. so i run mid grade all the time. even when towing. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : joe

sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. um yeah ok sure...... so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. actually pa has just enacted legislation to do exactly that with a visual inspection. now since its still up to private enterprise to do the inspections......they may or may not check everything including the thermostat. those new handheld thermometer guns are wonderful arent they ill readily agree its ridiculous. but the fact is if they actually enforce the regs and someone will at some point do exactly that then the thermostat is fair game. what i see here is a bunch of people saying well yeah it might be considered against the rules if they catch us. great so for no appreciable gain and to the possible detriment of the pcm programming yall are gonna change the stat ten degrees is worth that much trouble and i mean the hassle of changing the stat not the bullshit regs in some cases i suppose it might be. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. max dodge max340@verizon.net wrote in using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. sure it is. if you put the wrong plugs in youll screw up your emissions big time. so whats the inspection guy gonna do pull a plug to check if youve got the right ones in assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... indeed. shows you how ridiculous this whole thing is. bottom line is that if the stuff coming out of the pipe doesnt trip the sensor youre ok. no way in hell is anybody going to check every single emission-related component on every single vehicle. .

From : max dodge

and yes we would be open to considering other vehicles but at the moment seems like the 2 shes liking best is the liberty and durango although she mentions from time to time the chev tahoe. im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango the liberty crd isnt the prettyiest girl at the dance but it is a great wifey vehicle. for towing you just cant beat a diesel. you didnt give any stats on your pontoon boat just make sure it weighs less than the crds capabilities. once you go diesel you never go back. the new restyled durango on the other hand is amongst the ugliest vehicles on the road. older durangos looked great the newer durango runs great thanks to the addition of the hemi....to bad you couldnt get the older style with the hemi. the hemi can be a blast to drive but if you tow with the durango your mileage is going to go from piss-poor to total suck-ass. are you open to any other vehicles -- nathan w. collier http//inlinediesel.com http//7slotgrille.com http//utilityoffroad.com http//bighornrefrigeration.com .

From : carolina watercraft works

bolt pattern may hold this up but otherwise it should work. internally the loadflite is pretty much the same trans just with more clutches. things youll want to consider space for the cummins itll be taller and longer than the 440. fuel system youll need a lift pump appropriate engine controls depending on model of engine and a return line to the tank as diesels have to have one of these. exhaust system space for the larger diameter pipe and heat shields for the turbo and exhaust manifold. intake space for the intercooler and filter box as well as the plumbing. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. i have a dodge motorhome with a 440-3 and a 727 lodeflite transmission. it is my understanding that the lodeflight is internally a completely different transmission than a torqueflite 727. the lodeflite is beefed up for heavy duty use. i would like to replace the 440 with a 5.9 cummins turbodiesel and i would like to keep the transmission if possible in order to keep the driveshaft emergency brake and in order to avoid modifying the driveshaft. is it possible to mate a cummins diesel to a 727 if so is it advisable .

From : carolina watercraft works

using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. actually since all ya can do is swap plugs and plug wires and you cannot change timing fueling vacuum lines etc its not messing with emissions at all. assuming you were correct wed have to include air filters air intake mods k&n anyone injector changes pcm chipping shift kits exhaust mods of almost any sort tire size changes..... -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : carolina watercraft works

roflmao...thats the truth beekeep. ill heed that one. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. on fri 29 jul 2005 110630 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. the repair has been effected and all is good....included the kill-file addition. -- heres a tip - dont feed the greasemonkey! beekeep .

From : badger

hey joe....a kill-file is a great thing to have for groups. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... personally i dont give a rats ass because theres no inspection here not that it wouldnt pass anyway. when its 95 out and im in stand-still traffic and the a/cs on full blast i want the truck to run a bit cooler so ill use the 180. end of story. .

From : steve w

actually in a lot of states vehicles with a gvwr of 8800 and over are not subject to emissions testing. so in nc it isnt even an issue for any sort of law enforcement agency. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. thats not the point. you may lose your license for travelling 1mph over the speed limit too... im looking for actual first-hand knowledge of a fine being levied. my thought was that if the emissions are over the limit the vehicle wont pass inspection and if the driver gets caught driving without a valid inspection sticker hell get fined. so based on that i guess its possible to draw the conclusion that you can be fined for installing a low-temp thermo. not that im defending the supposition... .

From : beekeep

steve w. wrote transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... personally i dont give a rats ass because theres no inspection here not that it wouldnt pass anyway. when its 95 out and im in stand-still traffic and the a/cs on full blast i want the truck to run a bit cooler so ill use the 180. end of story. yep so what if it fucks the rest of the folks. who cares. hell maybe we should all drive like the bitch who just killed 5 kids in upstate because she wanted to drive 80 plus. and hit a truck killing herself and the 5 kids. yeah thatll really screw up the emissions. clay ps. youre an idiot try to pay attention. .

From : beekeep

transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... personally i dont give a rats ass because theres no inspection here not that it wouldnt pass anyway. when its 95 out and im in stand-still traffic and the a/cs on full blast i want the truck to run a bit cooler so ill use the 180. end of story. yep so what if it fucks the rest of the folks. who cares. hell maybe we should all drive like the bitch who just killed 5 kids in upstate because she wanted to drive 80 plus. and hit a truck killing herself and the 5 kids. ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 120000+ groups ----= east and west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =---- .

From : tbone

on fri 29 jul 2005 110630 -0400 carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. the repair has been effected and all is good....included the kill-file addition. -- heres a tip - dont feed the greasemonkey! beekeep .

From : tbone

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... lol complete bs. do you think that they have either the time motivation or permission to take the vehicle apart to look all they will do is say you are running cold tell you that you need to get it fixed and fail you. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : joe

lol thats what shes wanting to get out of.... we currently have a chev venture witch has been really good to us. the only thing ive had to do to it is of course reg scheduled maint water pump and intake gaskets christopher thompson wrote alright heres the deal. shes yellin wants a new car. so im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango she wants to have plenty of seating for our 2 kids one 4 and one 7 months comfortable for her to drive to work everyday she drives 35 min mostly highway. but also wants to pull the pontoon boat when we go camping this would increase the number of times we go as if we decide to take the camper and the boat it means 4 round trips for me and the truck 2 to go up and 2 to go back so this is what im asking..... im looking for input/personal experiance with each what motor/trans setup would you suggest pros/cons. thanks chris you need a mini van dude! jam .

From : joe

transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... personally i dont give a rats ass because theres no inspection here not that it wouldnt pass anyway. when its 95 out and im in stand-still traffic and the a/cs on full blast i want the truck to run a bit cooler so ill use the 180. end of story. .

From : joe

i have a dodge motorhome with a 440-3 and a 727 lodeflite transmission. it is my understanding that the lodeflight is internally a completely different transmission than a torqueflite 727. the lodeflite is beefed up for heavy duty use. i would like to replace the 440 with a 5.9 cummins turbodiesel and i would like to keep the transmission if possible in order to keep the driveshaft emergency brake and in order to avoid modifying the driveshaft. is it possible to mate a cummins diesel to a 727 if so is it advisable .

From : transurgeon

using that logic doing a tune-up will carry a heavy fine. youre tampering with stuff directly related to emissions. transurgeon nobulltrans@mchsi.dotcom wrote in while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. carolina watercraft works cooltoys@bellsouth.net wrote in your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : transurgeon

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. thats not the point. you may lose your license for travelling 1mph over the speed limit too... im looking for actual first-hand knowledge of a fine being levied. my thought was that if the emissions are over the limit the vehicle wont pass inspection and if the driver gets caught driving without a valid inspection sticker hell get fined. so based on that i guess its possible to draw the conclusion that you can be fined for installing a low-temp thermo. not that im defending the supposition... .

From : tom lawrence

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. and if the emissions station guy has had a bad week and decides to dig a bit.................... .

From : Annonymous

well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. yeah but i give gary a lot of credit for being efficient with his words come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. we live in a world with too many panty-waisted weak-in-the-knees twits who care more about how something is phrased rather than the meaning behind it. by posting something in an open forum such as this you invite the opinions of all who read it. if youre not prepared to see those opinions accept the ones you agree with and discard the ones you dont without getting all runny-nosed about it then i would suggest not reading any future postings. .

From : carolina watercraft works

the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. thats not the point. you may lose your license for travelling 1mph over the speed limit too... im looking for actual first-hand knowledge of a fine being levied. .

From : joe

so ... whats wrong with tree huggers craig c. .

From : tom lawrence

tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top the fact that its running cooler may affect emissions in a negative way. .

From : transurgeon

and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day have you ever known someone who was fined for putting a lower temp. thermostat in a vehicle i can see being fined for cutting off a cat - but for changing a stat i find that a little over the top .

From : tom lawrence

while your points below are well taken the mere fact that it is in the engine at all is emissions tampering which carries a heavy fine jesus mary and joseph...................are you this obtuse naturally or did you take classes well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : joe

well he could have gotten his point across in a imo a more polite manner. something like while i have heard of this being done id recommend not changing to a 180 degree because it may cause the fuel to not combust as designed thereby lowering your overall fuel economy and dispensing raw fuel into the atmosphere which may be considered an environmental issue down the road. now that would have been taken much better wouldnt have come across as negative. we live in a world where too many people try to push their views and opinions onto others where it isnt wanted. im just sick and tired of people jumping in with something that sounds negative right from the get go. i think more points could be gotten across if the information is submitted in a more friendly manner...not purely emissions tampering which automatically exudes negativity. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : roy

.bob bobcowan@access4less.nospam.net wrote in carolina watercraft works wrote its my understanding that a 185 degree stat will really help the 360 perform better. is that not quite the case yes and no. on a stock engine it will probably perform worse because the computer thinks the engine is still cold. it will run rich idle poorly and get crappy mileage. guess how i know this since trying that experiment and quickly reversing the process i used a hypertech programmer. this advances timing and adds a smidgen more fuel. that worked great but on a hot day or when towing i would get pinging at heavy throttle. so i went back to the 180* thermostat and added a bottle of water wetter. truck doesnt get as hot and no pinging. last time i towed on a hot day i abused the engine a little to try and make it ping - it didnt. other than that i notice no difference at all in operation. so bottom line stock engines should use stock thermostat. my 360s basically stock with a 185 thermo and it runs great. a/c on idling in traffic and 93 degrees outside is no problem at all. mileage hasnt changed at all from the 195 thermo - still 14 mpg overall. bob do you have a link to the hypertech what octane are you using at the pump joe 03 dakota 5.9 r/t cc 93 mustang lx 5.0 hatch with a few goodies .

From : carolina watercraft works

your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol laszlo i dont have a dog in this but.. when gary replied i sorta thought hmmm.. good point i didnt think of that. other might have thought of it. who knows also how you take a post is on you not the poster. a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. garys reply was not a deviation imo. the repair has been effected and all is good.... good deal glad it worked out. included the kill-file addition. that is a mistake again imo. roy .

From : transurgeon

tree hugger get fucking real....im as far from a tree-hugger as it is possible to get; but like the laws regarding emissions or not i tried to give you some advice you asked for tips i told you that you are liable for a charge and sizeable fine for emissions tampering go ahead put a low-temp thermostat in it and when it fails testing and the feds crawl up your ass remember this day you idiot your comment wasnt a tip. it was taken as a self-righteous tree hugger comment bubba. lol a tip would be something like anything everyone else posted in the thread. why people like yourself feel obligated to deviate from the thread is beyond my comprehension. the repair has been effected and all is good....included the kill-file addition. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. any other gripes or bitches you want to get off your chest bucko dont recall asking anything of the sort of what you posted. while i see your point it was not requested to have input such as this. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. emissions tampering g im guessing its located on the top side of the engine. just blew a lower radiator hose and decided to replace the stock thermostat with a 185 degree unit as is highly recommended. let me know if i am correct in my assumption on location. also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. next week im doing the dt tracbar ball joints from quad 4x4 and borgeson steering shaft. 2001 ram 2500 qc 4x4 5 speed. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. .

From : carolina watercraft works

also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. any other gripes or bitches you want to get off your chest bucko dont recall asking anything of the sort of what you posted. while i see your point it was not requested to have input such as this. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. emissions tampering g im guessing its located on the top side of the engine. just blew a lower radiator hose and decided to replace the stock thermostat with a 185 degree unit as is highly recommended. let me know if i am correct in my assumption on location. also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. next week im doing the dt tracbar ball joints from quad 4x4 and borgeson steering shaft. 2001 ram 2500 qc 4x4 5 speed. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. .

From : transurgeon

dont recall asking anything of the sort of what you posted. while i see your point it was not requested to have input such as this. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. emissions tampering g im guessing its located on the top side of the engine. just blew a lower radiator hose and decided to replace the stock thermostat with a 185 degree unit as is highly recommended. let me know if i am correct in my assumption on location. also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. next week im doing the dt tracbar ball joints from quad 4x4 and borgeson steering shaft. 2001 ram 2500 qc 4x4 5 speed. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. .

From : bob

its my understanding that a 185 degree stat will really help the 360 perform better. is that not quite the case -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. thermostat gasket sealing. i think i put a 160 degree thermostat in when i did it. i just hate to have an engine running hotter than necessary. nevermind that a t-stat that low will set an obd-ii code not let the engine reach optimal operating temperature and cost you some fuel economy. the entire fi system has been designed with an operating temperature of 195f. but hey - at least its not running too hot... i have a 95 ram 1500 318. i went with a 185 stat after i had a head gasket and head reworked after a overheating. i soon had to replace the cat converter. i thought it was the water going into the cylinders that stopped it up. i ran my truck for 2 1/2 months so far this summer and have noticed a smell of not completely burned fuel out of the duel exhaust dodge service put a test ox sensor on the converter and said that it was not burning fuel and wanted to know what degree stat i had. i told them a 185 and they changed it to a 195 and the burnt fuel smell just went away. there explaination was that the engine cylinder jackets were not getting hot enough to completely burn the fuel. so my experience would be to go with a 195 stat because that is where the enegine was built to run on. ramguy just my 2 cents worth. give me change if it wasnt worth it. .

From : ben in tn

alright heres the deal. shes yellin wants a new car. so im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango she wants to have plenty of seating for our 2 kids one 4 and one 7 months comfortable for her to drive to work everyday she drives 35 min mostly highway. but also wants to pull the pontoon boat when we go camping this would increase the number of times we go as if we decide to take the camper and the boat it means 4 round trips for me and the truck 2 to go up and 2 to go back so this is what im asking..... im looking for input/personal experiance with each what motor/trans setup would you suggest pros/cons. thanks chris .

From : tom lawrence

laszlo i just replaced the thermostat on my wifes98 durango with 360 and i never removed the upper hose off the piece that bolts down over the thermostat. i just loosened the 2 bolts and pulled it up by the hose and cleaned off the water outlet piece and engine side with a brass brush on the end of a drill. used the special sealant they have at auto zone for thermostat gasket sealing. i think i put a 160 degree thermostat in when i did it. i just hate to have an engine running hotter than necessary. i hope this doesnt mess up the computer emission crap. i havent noticed any problem in the 2 weeks or so since i did it. ben im guessing its located on the top side of the engine. just blew a lower radiator hose and decided to replace the stock thermostat with a 185 degree unit as is highly recommended. let me know if i am correct in my assumption on location. also any tips anyone may have while im in here doing this would be appreciated. next week im doing the dt tracbar ball joints from quad 4x4 and borgeson steering shaft. 2001 ram 2500 qc 4x4 5 speed. -- laszlo almasi carolina watercraft works inc. in the battle between money and love money will always triumph i may have to change my signature......on second thought i was right the first time. .

From : carolina watercraft works

christopher thompson wrote alright heres the deal. shes yellin wants a new car. so im lookin at options the two she likes are the liberty and the durango she wants to have plenty of seating for our 2 kids one 4 and one 7 months comfortable for her to drive to work everyday she drives 35 min mostly highway. but also wants to pull the pontoon boat when we go camping this would increase the number of times we go as if we decide to take the camper and the boat it means 4 round trips for me and the truck 2 to go up and 2 to go back so this is what im asking..... im looking for input/personal experiance with each what motor/trans setup would you suggest pros/cons. thanks chris simply for the towing it has to be the dodge. the liberty is too small to tow a pontoon boat safely. im not a big fan of the durango too big too heavy too expensive and to inefficient. have her look at a dakota; slightly better in those categories. although i have to admit i dont much like the styling of the new dakota. also consider the new mistubishi raider - a rebodied dakota. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : tom lawrence

carolina watercraft works wrote its my understanding that a 185 degree stat will really help the 360 perform better. is that not quite the case yes and no. on a stock engine it will probably perform worse because the computer thinks the engine is still cold. it will run rich idle poorly and get crappy mileage. guess how i know this since trying that experiment and quickly reversing the process i used a hypertech programmer. this advances timing and adds a smidgen more fuel. that worked great but on a hot day or when towing i would get pinging at heavy throttle. so i went back to the 180* thermostat and added a bottle of water wetter. truck doesnt get as hot and no pinging. last time i towed on a hot day i abused the engine a little to try and make it ping - it didnt. other than that i notice no difference at all in operation. so bottom line stock engines should use stock thermostat. -- ..bob 1997 hd fxdwg - turbocharged! 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1966 ffr cobra - ongoing project .

From : clyde

thats not possible. the clutch will not apply under any scenario resulting from an improperly bled system. try reading what budd said. he mentioned nothing about the clutch. simply said that an improperly bled system could result in faster than normal throwout bearing wear. that is not only possible its probable. i am not sure that this is exactly what budd either said or meant but if you actually believe this max prove it because in reality you are dead wrong. there is no way in hell that an improperly bled system could cause excessive wear to the bearing but it is highly probable to cause excessive wear to the clutch. i dont claim to be a hydraulics expert but there are some simple facts that seem to be completely distorted. no tom it depends on the volume of air left in the system. on hydraulic machinery in the muffler factory ive seen a 3 dia by 24 cylinder full of hot air bend a 3 exhaust pipe with a laminated wall 0.072 thick . . .. .the heat coming from an oil based fire below the cylinder. i think that you are comparing two different systems. the cylinder that you are talking about was in a closed system which gave the building pressure no where to go so it pushed the piston out with enough force to bend the pipe. in a hydraulic clutch when the pedal is fully released it is effectively an open system and any expansion of either gas or fluid will simply dump the excess into the reservoir without building any pressure by design. on the pines bender in the example the pistons have orifices to allow the wing die to follow the bending action. pressure from the pump is applied to both sides of the piston with the extend line having up 30% higher flow to maintain contact with the pipe. in this example the cylinder had been just rebuilt and was being installed. the millwright left the job for lunch and someone tossed a cigarette butt in the oily mess on the floor below the cylinder. the cylinder was connected but no oil had flowed yet in a systems test. i figured that the cylinder had to be empty or near empty to build up that much pressure and like i thought the system was closed allowing the pressure to build up. i was the apprentice millwright on the job that day. when we heard the fire alarm we went to help put it out and thats when i saw the bent pipe. the opposing wing die had not moved even though it is in parallel in the hydraulic circuit. not seeing the system i cannot make any valid comment on why it didnt move. yeah the set-up man lost his position because of poor housekeeping. and if the fire was as unintentional as you make it sound he should have. he had been told repeatedly to clean up the mess of oil absorbent petro-sorb and dirt that he had tossed under the cylinder to catch the drips from the worn shaft seals. another employee walked by and tossed a butt in the mess. well in all honesty the idiot that threw the butt should have also been canned. then dont forget that all the power your engines make comes from coffee can sized volumes of air heated by burning fuel. while true you are dealing with both combustion and a closed system neither of which exist in a hydraulic clutch at rest. it can. lol while the vehicle could catch on fire the combustion part no vehicles hydraulic clutch that i am aware of would be in a closed mode at rest and i know that the dodge is not since i have one so at least in this case and since the op did not complain about hard shifting a symptom of air in the system air in the lines was probably not the cause here. first of all gas liquid and solids all expand to some degree when heated with the difference being that liquids and solids apply extreme pressure when any expansion occurs and gasses do not unless the expansion is significant. the reason why there is a slight gap required in a mechanical clutch linkage is due to the possible expansion of the mechanical parts partially engaging the clutch and causing excessive wear and slippage to the clutch not the bearing. the return spring serves to stop the linkage from rattling when in full release due to the required gap as much as anything else. and thats why there needs to be a gap on the hydraulic system if the hydraulic clutch master cylinder is functioning properly no gap will be needed as any change due to expansion or contraction should be dealt with by pushing excess fluid or pulling required fluid from the reservoir in the open at rest system. not in all systems. possibly not but in automotive systems this will be the case. if you know of a production automotive system that is different please let me know. as for gravity the weight of the fluid is so insignificant in a 3/16 line that i doubt that it could supply enough force to even move the clutch slave cylinder at all never mind move it with enough force to cause