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From : fred brown

Q: from mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell date 1/29/2004 708 pm central standard time btw i dont think anyone involved in this deal is attempting to cheat anyone i think both of us are just naive. thanks again for the education robert maybe not but i cant imagine someone who knows they are selling their vehicle not going down to the lien/security/title holder and telling them so the title can be released at the appropriate time. i think ive got a handle of the problem i believe its a logistical issue. the lien holder is a credit union in nevada i dont know the name of it yet i should find out today. this credit union doesnt have a local presence in oregon. so the actual title is in nevada. when i thought he had clear title i was going to do a cash deal now that i know he doesnt and btw hes upside down on this loan surprise btdt. i think the best thing to do is assume his loan just let him pay it down to the purchase price and take it over. failing in that ill harass my local banker for a loan today. it should be a very busy day today. i leave sunday for oregon and then ive got all week next week to complete the sale.