3 speed Dodge Ram Van oil consumption
From : daniel j stern
Q: on thu 07 oct 2004 155110 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote gigolo kerry wrote kerrys facts just dont add up but bush and cheneys lies do. said it before will say it again....and i dontknow whats so hard to understand... there are no good choices this go round...but i know whos stood behind his convictions and not waivered to gain votes... lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. now...do we want a guy in office that thinks the world is a better place with saddam out there or one that did what he set out to do that is not what he said and you know that. the point is that he had no wmds and his ability to manufacture them had fallen apart years ago. bush rushed in with no game plan and as a result the world is more dangerous than ever and over 1000 of our brave men and women are dead for no valid reason and this is your choice also...remember...north carolina didnt want edwards...and we still dont. if that is true how did he get in you just never quit do you steves post really summed the whole thing up pretty well in very few words. now youre gonna add a whole bunch of words but youll say very liitle. kind of like the difference in the two candidates .
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From : mic canic
craig christian wrote i am trying to purchase some land there now actually. but no at this instant i live in dallas and have no vested interest in alaska other than trying to keep the greedy oil companies out. you want oil for your own use but anyone who provides it to you is greedy and must be stopped. go figure. actually i am not advocating that we drop oil use today ... we cant. too much dependence. but we can start the process ... in fact to a very limited degree it has already been started. there are alternatives to oil both for cars although not many and power for household purposes. by your response ... are you honestly suggesting that oil companies are not greedy i dont want oil ... i need oil. we can change that and as a world leader we should be driving the change. and guess what .... there is a good side effect ... the middle east crises will resolve itself. idealistic ... yes but it is possible and neccessary that we move forward faster than we are. which candidiate is going to see to it i think you know who ... craig c. .
From : doc
and various other ways of cheating without getting caught... lol but i make the rules on my lawn lol max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan yea right...... ill tell that to the dandelions........ bg denny .
From : daniel j stern
tbone wrote lol unlike you jerry i do have better things to do with my time. now lets see how much deeper you can dig yourself in today. didnt seem to stop the other bs posts you continued during that period. guess you dont have as much better time as you think. geez what a lame ass answer ........... if you are going to bullshit at least cover you ass a little bit. simply changing a waste gate setting will give you nothing except maybe more smoke. lol if you say so. well prove me wrong.......... massive gains in power by simply adjusting the waste gate for boost huh............. better get back to you little search engine stupid. perhaps you should crack open a book and read a little before sticking your head completely up your ass. maybe you might like to explain how just the boost setting change can give you these massive gains in power. the word is can not always will and massive is a realitive term. if you get 15 hp by replacing the entire exhaust then 40 from tweeking the boost is massive. oh i see ...... didnt realize your were also talking about replacing a entire exhaust system. maybe you might point out where you said that or is that just something you were thinking and we were suppose to magically assume. so tweaking just the boost gives you 25 more hp huh........... you really are grasping now and your continued spin attempts continue to show just how dumb you really are. keep going though because the laughs are refreshing. never mind the fact that without a timing and/or fuel increase adjustment must also be done. you are a fucking idiot. do you kiss your mother with that mouth oh thats right you never met her. lucky for her i guess. aw...... the real tbone is surfacing again. would it make you better or maybe safer in your gutter world or even easier for you bail out if i talk about your mother. youre reaching new lows tommy boy........ no that would be wrong as you have spewed this type of gutter garbage before. the fuel and timing adjustments will be handled by the computer just like it was prior to the boost adjustment up to the limits of the fuel system and the computer tables. want to back that up ....... no you cant. the computer will see a over boost......then guess what happens. oops there goes the massive gains you dreamed about or more correctly bsed about. come on tommy troll i really would like a answer to the question about these massive gains from a simply waste gate adjustment....can you do it can you really come up with a answer........ or is another spin in another direction what i can expect. how do you think it works in the lightning moron. who gives a crap troll boy and besides i seriously doubt you have a clue the settings on the lightning computer............ your statement was simply waste gate adjustment gives massive power gains. how much more deeper are you going to go tommy troll before you hit bottom. if you need more then you can flash the computer and upgrade the fuel system. nice spin try troll boy .............. this is great really is. now you are suggesting you meant computer flashing and fuel up grades. what you mean is you did check to find out how dumb your statement was and discovered it would take those things along with the waste gate adjustment to get any gains. so lets just stick to your claim for the moment about massive gains from a simple waste gate adjustment. one more time troll boy how does a simple waste gate adjustment give massive power gains and be specific. the whole world is waiting to discover this......... but i fear we will never get the magic answer from tommy troll. now stop making the fool we already know you to be any worse and just crawl back under your rock. jerry .
From : anthony
steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do kept the peace and gave us 8 years of kick ass economic reform. even paid down the deficit. not even... in the last 2 years we have prospered while no small business did under clinton. what a complete load of crap. before bush you were saying that you were not taking on new customers because you couldnt handle what you already had. was that a lie nope..but you must have missed it where i hired 5 more guys this year..... did you miss the part where i said i was gonna buy a couple of sprinters too -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : maxpower
with the debate tonight having a live audience of undecided voters candidate john kerry is having a difficult time deciding whether to be up on the stage with president bush or sitting in the audience with other people who cant make up their minds lol. we have a pool going in my shop. how many minutes into the debate before kerry breaks the rules this time. last debate he had a copy of illegal debate notes in his pocket which everyone plainly saw him take out. at the vp debates pretty boy kept interrupting cheney and kept mentioning keryy by name even after the moderator told him to not mention kerry by name. these dumocrats are a piece of work that only bonehead......errrrr t-bone could love. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses i have been trying to locate the link but a few weeks ago kerry flipped his position on the war and number of troops about 3x in a week....still looking but that one sticks out in my head.. bush said one thing kerry went opposite bush stated the same thing kerry went the same and then when bush said the same thing again kerry went into another direction altogether... .
From : bill putney
process oil consumption is a critical testing criteria along with emissions noise and a host of other items. 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles would be a smoking freight train if it was burning that much. that volume of oil would foul plugs choke the valves with carbon deposits and piss off anyone driving behind you. you have a major leak somewhere. -- anthony you cant idiot proof anything....every time you try they just make better idiots. remove sp to reply via email . 222 290966 9fqdnx2dxonkkprcrvn-oa@comcast.com does this van have the 5.2 318 engine glenn beasley chrysler tech on thu 7 oct 2004 jay wrote got a 96 dodge ram van 250. its a 3 speed no overdrive. i doubt that very much. are you sure theres not an o/d off button on the dashboard thats pressed and you just didnt notice it the engine runs way too fast on the highway it consumed 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles on a highway run at 65-70 mph. the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. .
From : doc
craig christian wrote 3 eliminate income tax go to straight sales tax or flat tax. 5 larger tax incentives for people/companies that develop or use if you initiate #3 then turn around and do #5 then you end up with exactly what we have now. i dont believe so. for example if sales tax were the new way ... imagine all of the new tax income! the folks here illegally would start paying tax when they buy fuel or go to the grocery store! i imagine that is a huge sum of money that the current system cannot collect. the folks that vacation here will be helping to pay what we pay out of our paychecks. exact numbers are unknown ... but republicans and democrats both agree that it would be sizable. last number i heard is a 17% rate on all purchases ... craig c. .
From : steve
why doesnt cummins list the fuel consumption by power like g/kwh or g/hph because they are used predominantly in towing or hauling situations where the consumption can vary widely. this kind of information is the key to all worth knowing about diesel engines as far as im concerned. dont you no politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : john kunkel
this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. interesting but i dont see a rating for filtration by brand. paul johnson my thoughts too without the flow versus filtration numbers the data isnt that valuable; if flow is the only goal just leave the filter off. .
From : matt whiting
look for kerry to create a new cabinet post. secretary of steak inspections and our very own bonehead.....errrr t-bone as a loyal kerry fan will be appointed the first secretary of steak inspections. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .
From : matt whiting
bonehead....errrr t-bone psycho-babbles on. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .
From : bill putney
bob wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 202305 -0500 bob bob@nospam.com wrote bob wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. but it will get tired at least twice as fast not necessarily. matt if everything else is equal it certainly well. bob but not all else is equal. given the same load the engine running at higher rpm is running under less load less torque which translates to lower cyl pressures lower bearing loads etc. a free running engine generally lasts longer than a lugged engine. okay lets take a stock chevy v-8 for example. you can run it at 3500 rpms loaded at wot for days on end with no problems. run that same engine at 7000 with only a light load and its life will be measured in seconds. why is that given your explaination of the low cylinder pressures and light loads it should last a long time. in reality loads and stresses rise very fast as the speed goes up. we werent talking 3500 and 7000 we were talking 1800 and 3500. if you stay below the rpm where stress will cause mechanical failure the wear relationship isnt even close to linear. matt .
From : bryan swadener
on fri 08 oct 2004 040558 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on thu 07 oct 2004 174650 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote tbone wrote sorry guy you can keep your head buried in the sands of fear all you want and refuse to see the writing on the wall but it is still there just the same. i never said that kerry was great but bush is worse and i doubt that the country can afford four more years of him running it. kerry scares me more. the only one worse than kerry would be edwards. anyone who scammed millions due to his own lawyers greed should not be anywheres near the whitehouse. give me a break miles like either bush or cheney are any better. please give specific facts as to what edwards scammed. wtf you dont even know your own candidate he got his name and money suing for poor little children only edwards got rich out of it tom and we now know that the whole thing was a scam. then lets see some links. back up what you say. i think the old ball is in your court. you still refuse to answer. should saddam have been left alone in iraq should we just have allowed him to remain as the pres. of iraq btw i have no need to back up what i say you already know the truth and you have yet to back up anything that you have said. again the alice in wonderland tbone world doesnt change reality tom. .
From : nomen nescio
steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote lets see....clinton had the same info that bush had.... what did clinton do not much. but here we are today with the left saying no to premptive strikes then complain that bush didnt do just that prior to 9/11. go figure. bush did sign a directive for premptive strikes against al queda targets just 1 month prior to 9/11. had they been carried out the left would have screamed loud blasting those premptive strikes. only if the evidence didnt back it up sorta like iraq now. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : Annonymous
2 rattles....something under the dash rattles/squeeks at low speed. i havent been able to narrow it down yet anyone have anything similar yeah... probably something loose sorry... could be anything try the damned cup holder at least thats what it is in my truck. an 00 max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .
From : bob
i missed a couple of things there.... inserted below on thu 7 oct 2004 213158 -0400 steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote gigolo kerry wrote kerrys facts just dont add up but bush and cheneys lies do. said it before will say it again....and i dontknow whats so hard to understand... there are no good choices this go round...but i know whos stood behind his convictions and not waivered to gain votes... lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. you got a websters look it up. thats not an answer. sure it is. i know what i mean but you need to see if your definition matches mine....its in websters. now...do we want a guy in office that thinks the world is a better place with saddam out there or one that did what he set out to do that is not what he said and you know that. the point is that he had no wmds and his ability to manufacture them had fallen apart years ago. bush rushed in with no game plan and as a result the world is more dangerous than ever and over 1000 of our brave men and women are dead for no valid reason and this is your choice wrong warwrong time he said. yep thats what he said and all the evidence comming in backs that up including our own reports. flash....the war never officially ended.... so if you believe that you also must admit that you would let saddam go and allow him to be back in power....or make it easy on you lol why would i or anyone do that what is done is done but that doesnt mean that is was done correctly or that it needed to be rushed into at this time. like kerry said wrong war wrong time. like i said you either believe that saddam should still be in power or you dont..there isnt any middle ground. tom were still waiting for an answer on this. why do you keep ignoring this question you must also believe that the world is a safer place with saddam in power still. with the current state iraq is in and what other countries are now doing the world is now a more dangerous place than it was. iraq is in a transitional phase and you really need to ask yourself...if all you knew was saddam all your life would you not fight to retain what you believed to be the right way now...if you think that the iraqi militia is right....please watch this http//www.mensdaily.com/video/armstrong-murder2.wmv or http//www.mensdaily.com/video/korean2.wmv dont preach to me about the military. i have a son in law that is there and he is glad he is there. he will be here in nov for leave and then he is asking to go back. then i would question why. does he just want to kill someone he was on the uss peleiu sp when it first went in...hes seen the change and hes seen the good in the people there....he knows hes doing the right thing. define more dangerous without the typical left wing spin. sure people in iraq are being killed every day and at a much larger number than during saddams time. it was predictable as to who saddam would go after but now everyone and anywhere is fair game. there is a huge influx of terrorists pouring into iraq that simply didnt happen during saddams time and iraq itself is being the poster boy for terrorist recruiting. so..what does that really tell you man you think long and hard on that one...cause its a simple answer and isnt the one that you will first think of. btw you really do need to read up more on whats going on with the wmd front...its been proven he had over 3 litres of sarin...might want to see what just those 3litres can do to a town...or city. really lets see a link. http//www.nypost.com//world/29793.htm all this is is speculation and crap from unnamed sources. no names no validity. might want to read that in a democratic paper no less. what exactly makes the post a democratic paper could it be that they tell the truth both when bush is successful and when he falls on his face. lol...ok...how you you do the research and its simple...or do you want everyone to do it all for you. tell ya what..you vote for kerry and considered it canceled...ok i know i cant change your mind...altho it should be simple to do with you backing kerry.. oh...think on this.. you cant win a war you dont believe in. kerry does not. no more than he believed in vietnam..... and btw...one other thing that bugs the hell out of me...kerry wants to let the un rule.....the same un that has hamas terrorists on the payroll... that is not what he said unless you are reaching back to waht he said 35 years ago. oh...thats the same un that gave saddam what 8 freaking years to shit or get off the pot abo
From : bob
this link http//www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml takes you to a ford site where all the major brands of automotive air filters are tested empirically for filtration and flow. included at the site is a chart that tells how big a filter a given engine displacement needs for a maximum rpm. i am not responsible for the content of the site so dont complain to me if it tells you something you dont want to hear. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. very interesting reading. im glad you posted the link. i didnt see the chart for sizing the filter to the engine. how many cfm filter would the typical stock 5.9l engine require thanks denny .
From : matt whiting
bob wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. but it will get tired at least twice as fast not necessarily. matt if everything else is equal it certainly well. bob .
From : bob
tom lawrence wrote sounds like it could be an apps problem. on older mechanical trucks the throttle cable ran right to the injector pump. on the 24v engines it goes to a fancy potentiometer that just tells the ecm where you put the throttle pedal. this is located on the front of the engine drivers side underneath a plastic cover. youll see the throttle and cruise control cables running into the back of this. take the cover off and inspect the assembly and electrical connection. these can get corroded from water spraying up from underneath and cause erratic readings. be careful about adjusting the cable linkage under that cover should you decide to play around. it will change the shift points and it doesnt take much adjustment to do it. jerry .
From : daniel j stern
on thu 07 oct 2004 174650 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote tbone wrote sorry guy you can keep your head buried in the sands of fear all you want and refuse to see the writing on the wall but it is still there just the same. i never said that kerry was great but bush is worse and i doubt that the country can afford four more years of him running it. kerry scares me more. the only one worse than kerry would be edwards. anyone who scammed millions due to his own lawyers greed should not be anywheres near the whitehouse. give me a break miles like either bush or cheney are any better. please give specific facts as to what edwards scammed. wtf you dont even know your own candidate he got his name and money suing for poor little children only edwards got rich out of it tom and we now know that the whole thing was a scam. .
From : daniel j stern
friend of mine works in dc marketing- the powerwagon is coming factory suspension lift extra performance i think he said 33 tires a real package!-- i will get more details soon. ummm dude its on the website for over a month now. .
From : maxpower
on tue 12 oct 2004 geoff wrote looks like one of the rejected designs for the new/current dodge durango. taillights are the stupid kind and look like the design that almost went on the chevrolet equinox until someone at chevrolet said clear taillights! no! dude! we totally have to do clear taillights! the wrap-around taillights suck i agree. and theyre all red. no amber turn blinker. suddenly its 1991... no 2002 one thing i would love to change on my dak is my non-amber turn signals.... .
From : steve
steve wrote has anyone had any luck with dc getting them to warranty the chrome pitting problems and while misleading their customers into thinking that they have chrome rims while they really have plastic hubcaps. thanks! by definition chrome is chromium or a chromium alloy or something plated with a chromium alloy or a pigment containing chromium. how is dc misleading anyone .
From : Annonymous
at the yacht club gun club nra meeting country club nascar rallye no offense but we northerners just dont get it i think youll find kerry at the yacht club. i dont think you can pin nascar on republicans exclusively. fwiw as a long time southerner i dont do nascar either dont understand the fascination at all. i did like it in the sixties when they bore some resemblence to cars you saw on the road. i think it was when they started restrictor plate racing is when i lost all interest. theres just something about it that doesnt seem like racing if youre not going as fast as possible. otoh going 3 400 mph is just too fast shrug...yeah i know not logical can i blame old age for it .
From : daniel j stern
i noticed tonight that the high quality plastic dashboard on my 2001 ram 1500 is cracked in several places. long cracks starting near and running perpendicular to the windshield. never noticed that before. anyone else noticed their high quality plastic dashboard coming apart wonder how expensive a replacement is wonder what a galactic hassle it is to replace o. .
From : matt whiting
i got a 1999 dodge 4x4 w v-10 that the air cond compressor runs off and on no matter where i set the heat control or climate control. is this needed is there a way to shut it off in the winter my gas mileage isnt real great anyway average 8 mpg does the engine have to pull the air cond compressor when the temp gets to -30 this winter cant find anything in the manual that addresses this. is this normal if so why cause i can live without air cond in the winter. i suppose i can pull the fuse or unplug it or something i guess. are all dodges like this or does mine have a problem. mabey the wizards at dodge have a reason but i dont get it. and im not too crazy about it. anyway mabey somebody here can shed some light on it. thanks tom .
From : maxpower
nope you said a cat; kinda ambiguous since a 3406 would be a tight squeeze in a pickup. so would a c series cummins but thats been done. if i happen to prefer an inefficient 635 c.i. v8 with 400+ hp and physical dimensions favorable to swapping thats just me. i routinely swap out efficient slant sixes in favor of gas guzzling inefficient 440s. which makes sense in the gasoline burning world. it lacks sense in the diesel world. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .
From : ray
all of your arguments are self evident and in many practical applications proved wonderful but my arguement would be how was the 24-valve design an improvement over the 12-valve design of my current engine where my desires/wants are met if my arguments are self evident then so is the answer to your question of why the 24v is better than the 12v b series. i would eventually concede that those horsepower/torque loving individuals would be happier with the better breathing design of the 24-v. as i said the answer to your question is self evident. then to save face time and money i will state for the record i do not need more horsepower/torque than what my 12-valve supplies. if the question is now 12v versus 24v rather than with what to replace a cummins it is obvious that the answer will change. with diesel $2.00 a gallon i want economy. my truck gets 23mpg. i would hope that this feat could be surpassed with a deutz or other design. doubtful. in the case of a diesel engine in particular the dodge version of the cummins 12v and 24v both engines in stock form will burn all of the fuel introduced to the cylinder. the 24v will be a bit more closely monitored by its electronics rather than the fully mechanical injection of the 12v. the point diesel fuel will only render a set amount of btu from each unit of fuel. thus for whatever set amount of weight you wish to move you will have to burn a set amount of diesel fuel to do it. as such any diesel engine that burns all the fuel injected will render the best economy possible. except for the variables..... which are your foot ground speed wind resistance and gearing. thus the search for better economy isnt in the engine as much as the truck and its operator. from what ive read and heard the 24v doesnt approach this economy. not sure where since i can achive 22mpg while towing a ford exploder on my trailer at 55mph. i can also do an average of 19.7 on a 500 mile trip from mid pa to eastern shore md and back. since im usually running at about 75-80mph im certain that sticking to the 55-65mph limit would render better mpg as would holding rpm to the 1800-1900 peak efficiency that cummins recommends. maybe i should have begun the thread with the heading what motor would you replace your cummins 5.9 with to improve economy while not loosing any performance that would be a great thread no indeed and its probably been done. to answer the question i would recommend performance improvements to the cummins since its been documented that performance enhancements along with good driving practices can boost mpg by as much as 2 mpg. funny how many manufactures make four cylinder engines producing mucho torque 500 foot pounds with much less displacement than the cummins. funny how cummins can do it with the b3.9 series diesel. however longevity is likely affected. deutz makes a one that produces i think 180hp and 540 ft.lbs. with a fuel consumption rate of 198 g/kwh! displacement is like 3.8 liters!!! hmmm...that raises my eyebrows. it shouldnt if you know how diesel ratings can change and how they are changed. the same 12v in the dodge trucks can be had with up to 700ftlbs and 375hp. wish i could experience first hand what it would feel like behind the steering wheel of a dodge half ton with that motor...wouldnt you no. that much torque would require the 3/4 ton axle negating the 1/2 ton idea. max life liberty and the pursuit of any jackass that threatens it. embellished usnavy slogan .
From : nosey
i am new to this group so be gentle with my first time posting on usenet. i posted this on alt.autos.dodge but did not get any responses. my mother recently passed away and left me her car in her will. it is a 1993 dodge colt with the mitsubishi 1.8l engine front wheel drive auto transmission. she bought it new in 1993 and put about 30k miles on it. it turns out she has been driving for years with the overdrive switch in the off position. overdrive appears not to work. i can drive the car through all ranges of the gears but the minute i press the overdrive button to engage it acts like i disconnected the transmission. i have electrically tested the switch and wiring harness and they test good from the switch to the plug that goes into the transmission. the switch activates or de-activates the overdrive lamp on the dash. i am a loss as what can cause the transmission to work with the overdrive switch off but acts like the transmission is disconnected like pushing in the clutch on a manual tranny when the overdrive button is pushed. any suggestions anybody else experience this problem before thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions. dennis my email address is dbnospam@yahoo.com leave in the nospam .
From : azguy
tbone wrote lol i imagine that it does. i live on a private road now so when i get to that stage i can do that too without registering it. i am going to call them tomorrow to schedule a trip to the factory. i want to see the spyder gt first hand before ordering it. if all goes according to plan i will build the new garage in the spring and order the car in the early summer. what engine did you use im using a 427w from paw topped with a stack efi system from momar efi. roller cam 101 windsor sr stage iii heads main cap girdle big pan. should make about 550hp give or take. stacks are generally worth 50-75 hp. i put a tremec tko and 4.10 irs behind that. even with 285 kdws traction is an issue. -- ..bob 01 dakota quad cab 5.9/auto/4x4 97 h-d fxdwg - turbocharged! 84 gmc jimmy - mountain beater 65 427sc cobra ffr replica - project 66 mustang coup - daily driver .
From : steve
john theres a little problem with your phrase bible thumping trailer trash ...it makes you a bigot and thats totally against the publicly divulged liberal platform. bigot i am liberal im not; hate them too. .
From : steve
what alternative where well in the short term we would have to continue purchasing from our current suppliers. speeding up the r&d on alternative fuel/energy is feasible. there are hybrids available now which is a good start. our government can go a long way in supporting the advancing of alternative energy. rotflmbo!!! typical nimby. do you think the energy shortage is something new do you think there have been no experiments in alternative fuels we had a young man in the group bryan foust that made his own biodiesel fuel for a while with some success. we havent heard from him for a while so im not sure how its going. hybrids or electric vehicles are short range only vehicles but where does the butyl rubber or vinyls for the battery cases come from how muchoil or oil by-products are usd to make them fuel cells curently too inefficient and research is stalemated not by funding but by physics. and to free up monies from the government which social programs do you want to cut how high do you want your taxes i am not a geologist but there is oil in other places other than one of the most beautiful places on earth ... alaska. drilling there is a mistake environmentally. missed the point didnt ya went right over your head didnt it why is it wrong to drill in alaska but ok in moab ut or canon city co or podunk indiana yes there is a town there by that name . . .the city limit signs are on opposite sides of a piece of plywood. you want to see beauty canon city co and its environs moab ut and its arches south central indiana and the hardwood forests in the fall a sunset on tin can beach in so cal. . . .ya wanna talk beauty ive seen it. my folks use to live in provo. i have been to moab and yes it is pretty although in my opinion it doesnt hold a candle to any part of alaska. in fact i have been all of the places you listed except indiana. the key phrase to remember is in my opinion. if you want to really go on being a tree hugger then you have to remember your opinion isnt worth a dime anywhere but between your ears. imho alaska is too cold too mountanous and lacks warm freshwater fishing lakes. your comments begs the question ... do you want to see those places drilled for 6 months worth of oil no more than yopu do your alaska . . .get the picture yet if so then figure out where you can drill without making someone mad about it. and who wrote the book environmentalists think of it like this if there was as little oil as your book claimed then trucking the crude would have been a cheaper option than building that huge pipeline. no offense but apparently you have no reference to refer to on your claim. my reference may indeed be an environmentalist but does that mean his research is pointless it means his research is horrifically biased. btw the report i read was by the us government based on evironmental impact studies done of alaska for the pipeline before it was laid yep im an old coot and to show evidence for the need for the pipeline. in order for you to listen does the book have to written by an oil tycoon ... or a republican perhaps oho!!! in order for you to listen does the other person have to be a liberal/commie democrat tree hugger and your info has a definite liberal bias. kerry is getting his monies fron the heinz family. thats better than an oil source not to me. now this is funny. ketchup isnt ruining the water we drink and air we breathe. so yes its a better source. nice spin makes no sense but still a nice spin. first a viable energy source needs to be developed discovered invented or currently nothing can do the job like oil. you need to remember that most of the sources being touted today were replaced by oil not too long ago. agreed ... so we should stop and use up all of the oil ... right what happens when its gone wont be such a great source of energy then will it long term thinking when it comes to energy and fiscal responsibility evades most republicans ... then you are a brainwashed bigoted liberal that like t-bone is completely wrapped up in the lies of liberalism and determined to become a perfect little puppet to them. if clinton had put that surplus during his administration toward the national debt it wouldnt be as large today as it is. but in reality there was no surplus. ; riiightttt ... and he didnt balance the budget or pay down the debt either right balancing the budget came from programs and proceedures started by oh my! the bush administration. as for clinton paying down the debt with what clinton spent the surplus like it was money in the bank. answer me this if you were overdrawn at your bank behind in your debts and bankrupt and then you by not spending your most recent paycheck before it was earned had a hundred doillars in your pocket would you have a surplus www.georgewbush.com perha
From : kend kengd spam sbcglobal net
redneck no offense but if this was a silly discussion and you not being silly...why have you posted to this thread as i stated before actually i was working and had an extra five minutes to kill. id been comparing the economy of several like diesel engines. trying to distinguish which is better. i like what i had to read about the deutz. 1. smaller motor... 2. much torque... 3. mechanical design...like that of the 12 valve cummins... with the large response i have to deduce that this very notion or concept had been played out by many and further could argue ive hit upon a nerve or connection with fellow enthusiasts. with that being said is the purpose/goal of this group to share information of a common interest...more specifically dodge trucks. your argument was stuart amen! guys if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be do you lay awake at night thinking up these ridicules posts politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .
From : nosey
if i had been going for democrats it would have been easy. the flop houses soup lines unemployment offices welfare offices the slums and neighborhoods. there are a lot of democrats there thatll vote for a pack of cigarettes. but i never did think of anywhere to go to collect a load of potential republican voters. any ideas for 2004 clyde yep places of employment. in our office youll have a 95% success rate. youll get one bonus a libertarian then one full fledged hateful communist. .
From : azguy
denny wrote i have an unfair advantage on you i helped raise three female teenagers. i know how to hit the ignore and tuned out buttons as needed... well i only raised two of them and they flat out refused to allow me to use the ignore button. hell they are both 900 miles in opposite directions from me now and ignoring them is still impossible. thank god for mans best friend the dog. hell what am i talking about even he wont let me ignore him. jerry bg denny .
From : nosey
craig christian wrote do you have any idea what clinton did with the bond market absolutely nothing but the republican led congress did a lot. jerry .
From : maxpower
...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. im not disputing that because i believe in almost every application you are correct but i did find this article interesting. it explains how low load operation at 4000 rpm causes oil consumption problems in the 97-01 ls1 and ls6 corvettes. http//www.idavette.net/hib/02ls6/page5.htm .
From : maxpower
roy wrote check out www.factcheck.org seems your idiot does own a piece of a timber company. both of these idiots are playing real loose with the facts. one of the commentators on fox dont remember which one but they pointed out the same thing the night after the debate. jerry now that i think about it fact check should be a must for some of these fools that subscribe to the party line blindly. what is the saying a educated voter is what a politician fears most. yep.......... jerry .
From : john kunkel
baghdad oct. 7 xinhuanet -- a us report on iraqs alleged weapons of mass destruction wmd which cleared iraq of possession of such arms triggered fiery condemnation among the iraqis on thursday. http//.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-10/07/content2061461.htm one of 1880 related sites .
From : bigiron
on thu 07 oct 2004 155110 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote steve@carolinabreezehvac steve@removethis.carolinabreezehvac.com wrote gigolo kerry wrote kerrys facts just dont add up but bush and cheneys lies do. said it before will say it again....and i dontknow whats so hard to understand... there are no good choices this go round...but i know whos stood behind his convictions and not waivered to gain votes... lol please define waivered without the typical right wing spin. now...do we want a guy in office that thinks the world is a better place with saddam out there or one that did what he set out to do that is not what he said and you know that. the point is that he had no wmds and his ability to manufacture them had fallen apart years ago. bush rushed in with no game plan and as a result the world is more dangerous than ever and over 1000 of our brave men and women are dead for no valid reason and this is your choice also...remember...north carolina didnt want edwards...and we still dont. if that is true how did he get in you just never quit do you steves post really summed the whole thing up pretty well in very few words. now youre gonna add a whole bunch of words but youll say very liitle. kind of like the difference in the two candidates sorry guy you can keep your head buried in the sands of fear all you want and refuse to see the writing on the wall but it is still there just the same. i never said that kerry was great but bush is worse and i doubt that the country can afford four more years of him running it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : tegger
miles wrote j. a. m. wrote your answer tells it all i me me mine have you ever had any consideration for anyone that wasnt you here we have the ever so classic liberal logic. i talked about me and my family because that is who i know. i do not try to speak for nor control others. now then i am not you so have some consideration. if the us was a country of individuals all saying i me me mine it wouldnt be a country at all it would be chaos. jam .
From : azguy
if the shoe fits.......... subject fw life life is all about ass; youre either covering it laughing it off kicking it kissing it busting it trying to get a piece of it or behaving like one. pretty much sums it up #2 #1 .
From : matt whiting
in my honest personal opinion i am a person of unproven abilities and / or knowledge and a self-confessed group troll. therefore i suggest everything i offer as an answer in any response to be accepted only after thoroughly being tested and checked against known sources. how typically childish of you yet you claim to never change anyones posts. lol no more childish than you are for posting it in the first place. i cant figure out how you could be so upset about it when its just my opinion of you. and youre always whining about how no one should comment about your opinions because thats all they are opinions. i am not upset budd im having fun with it. the only one that seems upset here is you. and btw it changes from opinion to what could be viewed as childish harrassment when you follow me around like a lost puppy posting it on top of every post i make but dont worry i dont take it all that seriously. so you really are a two-faced backstabbing lying liberal communist. lol it that supposed to bother me now how could this be taken as any of the above sure troll-boy in your dreams . . so how come you have 3 or more people pointing out your screw ups all the time and i rarely get corrected by anyone gee its because you dont know anything. what 3 are you talking about as if you dont know another lie troll-boy i simply asked who and once again you were unable to answer how typical. i know who they are and so do you. no i dont now answer the question. then jerrys 100% correct about your stupidity. whats the matter budd afraid to name some names afraid that you might piss a hoped to be friend off spineless coward. spin and duck troll boy but you still made the implication. nope that was you but if you say im wrong prove it. this is not a long thread show me where. you claim youre not implying it so you prove youre not. lol sorry budd but you were the one who made the accusation. i simply said that you were once again lying and wrong. in this countyr people are innocent until proven guilty. you accused me i denied it and now you must either prove it or shup up. well as your so fond of pointing out when you need to cover your butt again this is the internet. now just for the fun of oit back up your point for once troll. oh i see you are trying to cover your butt. from what i can see you have a hell of a lot to cover. childish personal attacks. and you wonder why i would consider jerry a better friend then you. you dont consider me a friend at all budd and have made it perfectly clear that you never would so why should i worry about that no tommy-troll you lose. drag racing generally only allows one hour between rounds to make repairs re-tune or whatever. the turbo enthusiates will change a compressor a scroll a core a complete turbo or adjust a wastegate in that time period. a supercharger car has the same restrictions. heck aa/fd guys do a complete overhaul in that time frame. that is exactly my point they can do an entire overhaul in an hour. are you now saying that a pulley swap is at the same difficulty level and requires the same tools as an engine overhaul. who is talking about drag racing anyway we are talking about street cars here and the people who own them. sorry budd but you really tangled yourself up in your spin this time. no troll-boy in your effort to cover your butt you missed the point that changing a turbos output is doable at home and it doesnt take a rocket scientist . . .with training you could even do it. the only one twisting to cover their butt is you. i never said that it couldnt be done only that it was harder than changing a set of pulleys and therefore not in the same modificatin class. spin all you want you are still full of it and wrong. thats exactly where you lose the point and the discussion . . .it isnt any harder to do. hahahahahaha yea right. please give a step by step description of each. hey youre the one wanting to prove his mechanical abilities go for it .. . .ill sit back and laugh. i really dont have to when you keep making ridicules errors like this and then never back anything up. i already know that they are not in the same class of difficulty and so does just about everybody in here. point its not as difficult as you in your lack of knowledge or experience claim. i didnt say that it was. what i said despite your spin was that rebuilding a turbo is more difficult than swapping out a set of pulleys. and my point is that you dont know what youre talking about again. but the only point you have budd is on the top of your head. i said that the two are not in the same modification class and you know it but feel free to keep spinning its fun to watch. yes they are no matter how you try to spin it. stay
From : bill putney
geez guys isnt this suppose to be a discussion group for dodge trucks only whats with all the political crap there is more crap on this board than information. would someone please get rid of the junk as its taking too long to view discussions about dodges vs. all the b.s. that is floating around. i think there must not be any monitor or hes on vacation but its very frustrating for me and im sure many many others. gerald levin dds .
From : bill putney
maxpower wrote you saidthe engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. either i missed the first thread or the engine size was never posted. ah - on second reading i see the problem. some of the attributions got stripped out as the thread progressed. what you quoted above are not my words - they are daniel sterns. not saying i agree or disagree but those are not my words. this is not the same as saying i voted for the appropriations before i voted against them. 8^ bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter x ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= east/west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =--- .
From : john kunkel
guys if you could replace your cummins 5.9 engine with another diesel...what would it be 3208 cat. .
From : bill putney
craig christian wrote by your response ... are you honestly suggesting that oil companies are not greedy i dont want oil ... i need oil. we can change that and as a world leader we should be driving the change. and guess what ... there is a good side effect ... the middle east crises will resolve itself. it is easy to think that any company that is in business to make money is greedy. you demand it they supply it. idealistic ... yes but it is possible and neccessary that we move forward faster than we are. which candidiate is going to see to it i think you know who ... neither will. in the short term we need oil and need to cut foreign dependency. the left will not allow that to happen. in the long term we need alternatives. the president can do very little but offer cheap talk. the public has to drive it. companies are not going to invest billions into new technology unless the public will accept it and buy it. so far the publics demand for it is weak. demand for hybrids electrics etc. are not very strong. it will take alot more time to get the efficiency and cost down. until then we need oil and not from the middle east. which canidate recognizes that i think you know who... .
From : john kunkel
a certian minute volume of oil is consumed each cycle due to the surface finish on the cylinder wall. it is designed that way. ring lubrication. depends on what you call minute many engines in good condition go 5000+ miles with no discernible consumption as gauged by the dipstick. in high school auto shop i attained the hasting piston rings doctor of motors certificate i know big deal. the training taught that proper cylinder/ring lubrication can be attained with no loss of the lubricant. the phenomenon was illustrated by placing a hankerchief over a silver dollar and placing a lit cigarette gasp on the hankerchief. other than a brown smudge the hankerchief is not burned because the coin absorbs the heat; same thing happens in the combustion chamber the heat of combustion passes through the microscopic film of oil without burning it away and is absorbed by the mass of the cylinder wall. if not for this phenomenon the oil on the part of the cylinder wall exposed to combustion heat would be burned away and there would be no lubrication for the rings as the piston travels from bdc to tdc on the exhaust stroke; ring life would be very short. .
From : bill putney
you saidthe engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. either i missed the first thread or the engine size was never posted. the3.9/ 5.2 or 5.9 litre magnum engine will blow out the intake plenum oil gasket causing oil consumption and most noticeable at idle symptom/condition an engine intake manifold plenum pan gasket oil leak may occur on some v-6 and v-8 style engines. the oil leak is internal to the engine so no external oil leakage will be present. two symptoms of this oil leak condition may be present. the vehicle operator may experience an engine spark knock during acceleration and/or an increase in the amount of engine oil consumed by the engine. there is more vacuum within the intake manifold at idle or closed throttle then at a cruising or a load condition so oil consumption will be more noticeable at idle. u said again........and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800once again at 3500 rpms vacuum is low to nill in the intake manifold there fore oil cannot get sucked inot the intake and get burned thru the exhaust. john kunkel wrote john kunkel wrote on thu 7 oct 2004 john kunkel wrote the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. if your engine consumed or lost 4 quarts of oil in 800 miles you either have a whipped engine or a large leak. disagree many vans had ridiculously low axle ratios and the absence of od would have the motor running at 3500+ rpms at freeway speeds. a tired motor will suck more oil at 3500 than it will at 1800. ...and a non-tired engine will use no more oil at 3500 than at 1800. blanket statements like the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. invite disagreement. if the engine consumes a certain quantity of oil on each full combustion cycle the consumption will increase with engine speed simply because there are more cycles per minute. going with what you just said that would mean that oil consumption on a given engine would be the same amount per mile regardless of speed. iow - if you make a 400 mile trip on straight and level hiway you might make it in 10 hours or in 5 hours depending on whether you drove 40 or 80 mph. but from your statement you would use the exact same amount of oil for that 400 mile trip i.e. oil consumption would be have the same per thousnad mile rate. not saying i agree or disagree with your conclusions - just want to be sure you understand the end result of what youre saying. suppose an engine consumes one microgram of oil on each full combustion cycle two revolutions at 3500 rpm it would consume 1750 micrograms per minute but at 1800 rpm it would only consume 900 micrograms per minute. if a given vehicle is geared so that it turns 3500 rpms at a given road speed it will consume more oil per mile than one geared to turn 1800 rpm at the same road speed. therefore the statement the engine speed is not connected with the oil consumption. is incorrect. ah! i didnt realize you were talking about varying the engine speed by changing the gear ratio. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter x ----== posted via feeds.com - unlimited-uncensored-secure usenet ==---- http//www.feeds.com the #1 group service in the world! 100000 groups ---= east/west-coast server farms - total privacy via encryption =--- .
From : maxpower
jerry has always been a more dependable trustworthy knowledgeable and a better friend than you tommy-troll-boy. -- budd pres. bush john kerry has changed his position on the iraq war so many times he could debate himself. b.c. and lose. .
From : bill putney
kerry was asked to state his position on abortion. as expected in order not to anger his base kerry spun dodged bobbed distorted misrepresented and outright lied all so as not to anger his base. kerry never did state his position just made excuses and lied. bushs reply was a zinger did anybody understand what he kerry just said bush then clearly in so many words stated his position against abortion. is that sound i hear catholic democrats staying home this time or maybe even voting for bush poor dems sooooooo many special interest groups they are terrified of angering. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses yup..bush was much better last night.....i particularly enjoyed his reply about the foresty company he owns.. i own a logging company pause wanna buy some wood i about fuckin died....hilarious... .
From : daniel j stern
kerry was asked to state his position on abortion. as expected in order not to anger his base kerry spun dodged bobbed distorted misrepresented and outright lied all so as not to anger his base. kerry never did state his position just made excuses and lied. bushs reply was a zinger did anybody understand what he kerry just said bush then clearly in so many words stated his position against abortion. is that sound i hear catholic democrats staying home this time or maybe even voting for bush poor dems sooooooo many special interest groups they are terrified of angering. john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .
From : maxpower
as do i but if you even mention anything that is not far right you will probably be labeled as a commie bastard. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you can say it but you would be wasting your time in here. well if my goal were to change everyones mind then yes id be wasting my time. my goal is simply to discuss it in part to make sure that *i* am thinking correctly. nothing wrong with getting some opinions from both sides ... especially since i hover between the right and the left. craig c. .
From : anthony
on sat 9 oct 2004 071615 -0500 mike simmons mikesim@fidnet.com wrote and i buy american! mike how there are no 1 nation trucks anymore mike... between suing parts from several countries and so many companies being owned by multinational groups its a tough chore.. the closest might be ford trucks built in north canada america... not the truck the engine! cummins is american owned and built in columbus indiana. let the krauts buy their own engines. mike ps yeah yeah i know d/c is now a german company but at last count it is still about 45% american owned plus ive got too many years with em to give up on em. but i do make every effort to buy american stuff wherever and whenever possible. and i am still hoping that one day the krauts will tire of the chrysler group and american investors will buy it back! .
From : azguy
on 10 oct 2004 081453 -0700 galevin@hotmail.com gerald levin wrote geez guys isnt this suppose to be a discussion group for dodge trucks only whats with all the political crap there is more crap on this board than information. crap as well as beauty is in the eye of the beholder... would someone please get rid of the junk as its taking too long to view discussions about dodges vs. all the b.s. that is floating around. i think there must not be any monitor or hes on vacation but its very frustrating for me and im sure many many others. gerald levin dds gerald skip using google and get yourself a dedicated reader program such as free agent or use outlook to read the group. dig around the help files a bit and figure out how to use filters to ignore threads kill-file certain authors etc... http//www.forteinc.com/getfa/getfa.htm if you want moderated info seek out the web based forums. dj .
From : azguy
careful with the word we cheney acted and looked like the weasel he is. a weasel you say what color john z kerry president t-bone steak houses .