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From : bb

Q: on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. i just spent some time going over some threads of the past month or so. id invite anybody to take a look at them and point out a instance of c- bashing. i can certainly point out where budd has accused people of bigotry censeorship c-bashing you name he accusess people of it. what i find odd is that nobody voices any complaint about the degredation of the posts then. take a look at the thread entitled hes baaaaack! of 9/8/06. jmc .

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From : farmer john

tom youre just confusing them with facts ya know. ; -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams i realize that but the payback isnt there. diesel here is $.20 higher than regular gas. the diesel engine costs $5000+ more than the gas. people buy it for the power it puts out. it hasnt been a cost saver for many years. okay.... lets say $2.299 for gasoline and $2.499 for diesel. in the 10mpg gas engine we spend about $11500 for fuel to go 50000 miles. we spend $6940 for diesel to go the same 50000 miles. we saved the cost of the engine right there or very close - $4560. in the next 50000 miles you save another $4500 - which stays in your pocket instead of going to the oil companies. i just do not see a use for a diesel in a 1/2 ton unless its cost over a comparable gasser is under $1000. people are getting 15-16mpg with the hemi in the 1500s... if a diesel option could get them 25mpg thats $7184 for gasoline vs. $5000 for diesel over 50000 miles. so even if the engines a $2000 option it easily pays for itself. -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : bb

on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. you missed the crux of my post entirely. i was not defending budd... hes a big guy and can defend himself. nor did i get caught up in his rhetoric. i merely made an observation that it seemed that some in the ng were using christian bashing as a form of sport. i merely asked that as a group we consider others beliefs and feelings before we make this a routine practice. thats all im gonna say about that.... now let get on to more interesting stuff like torque wrenches or k$n filters or sumpin... wait a minute you want to move on to interesting stuff you say how about we figure out how many amps watts and whatever else it would take to create a heated seat large enough for my wide ride rabbit pal. probably need a cummins just to power the genset for it. r mike jmc .

From : chris thompson

let me put it in terms even you can understand you bash me for my beliefs or for living my beliefs or as you call it have some fun...fun for you but insulting to me. my beliefs are based on the first century christian church teachings as found in the kjv of the bible. for that you refer to me as insane over the edge lost it and probably to yourselves anyway names that are profanity based. all bigoted remarks. all because i chose to begin living my life as a fundamental christian. since you bash me and my beliefs you are also bashing christianity for that is why you bash me. bash me and you bash my beliefs which are christian. and that bashing demonstrates your bigotry toward any christian that dares to live as he understands the bible to say he should live. or have you forgotten all the little moron jokes the queer jokes the four-eyes jokes insert ethnic joke style you preferred that you told as a kid . . .everyone a bigoted remark and jest based on another persons difference from what you consider normal. yes i told them too as a kid but ive tried to rise above that you havent. you do enjoy the perverted pleasure of dragging me into defending my beliefs by your bashing of them. youre the one that lost it...any sense of social responsibility that is as for my bringing in religious content show me where that is forbidden by the constitution the bill of rights or the rules of an unmoderated group. ive brought it in to the discussion only when you clowns start bashing me for my beliefs so be a man for a change and take the blame for your actions. id rather live my life assuming there is a god only to die and find out there isnt one than to live my whole life like there isnt a god only to find out there is. peter barry -- budd cochran john 316-17 ephesians 28-9 romans 323 623 our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. it is wholly inadequate for the government of any other. john adams on tue 31 oct 2006 080403 -0500 roy roy@home.net wrote suddenly without warning mike simmons exclaimed 31-oct-06 1039 am i am kind of curious about the degradation of threads recently. it seems that christian bashing has become somewhat of a sport lately in the group. i for one am an unashamed christian perhaps not as vocal as budd but a christian nonetheless. what useful purpose are we accomplishing when we bait those of faith just because you are unfaithed does not give you a license to criticize those who are of faith. conversely we christians should not be overzealous in our evangelism towards the unfaithful. the cup is there for those who wish to partake. i would just recommend that we all conduct ourselves as gentlemen and women regardless of our religious persuasion. mike im still trying to figure out how bud got christian bashing out of that post. me too! but im with you in this. i think insulting ones religion belief system or lack thereof is pointless since i doubt very many people have switched religions due to some argument - or even reasoned conversation - they had on usenet. or anywhere else for that matter somebody please point out where a persons beliefs were insulted. that really is the point. but it gets lost in the constant whining from budd. you cant say anything about budd you can not even take issue with a single word that he writes that he doesnt cry religious intolerance. the only one to ever bring religion into the discussion is budd. in that perspective mike may have a point. like we have all said mikes best point in what he wrote is for budd to leave religion out of his posts. like roy and many others i have said and will say again i dont care what religion or sex or color or lifestyle anyone choses or is. i judge people on their quality nothing else. it is on that that this ng has judged budd and nothing else. i am surprised that mike who i deem to be a pretty good guy got caught up in budds rhetoric which is just a hair short of complete insanity. jmc -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .