2003 Dodge Caravan Brake pad change: For the record

From : andrew

Q: first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

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From : redneck tookover hell

but the water stays under the fluid in the bottom of the cylinders; it doesnt rise to the top and come out the bleed port. might want to update your info bubba dont think youre going to find many wheel cylinders on new vehicles anymore guess all that water will have to find somewhere else to stay politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : kend

on 27 aug 2004 123352 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote but the water stays under the fluid in the bottom of the cylinders; it doesnt rise to the top and come out the bleed port. might want to update your info bubba dont think youre going to find many wheel cylinders on new vehicles anymore guess all that water will have to find somewhere else to stay a caliper piston moves in a large diameter cylinder. most trucks still use drum brakes on the rear. i believe bleeding all cylinders extends there life suggesting a through h20/gunk flush. my 70 chevy k20 still running with cyl fr & rr installed 1990. i kited the fr when replacing fr shoes a couple months back. calipers have a large diameter chrome plated piston that moves very little. very little wear and high resistance to corrosion. .

From : tom lawrence

most trucks still use drum brakes on the rear. show me a current truck pickup variety - no fair throwing kenworths around with drums in the rear.... .

From : kend

on fri 27 aug 2004 141805 gmt tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote most trucks still use drum brakes on the rear. show me a current truck pickup variety - no fair throwing kenworths around with drums in the rear.... perhaps i may be living in the past. my newest old vehicle is a 98 3500 dodge 24v and it does have rr drums. .

From : yofuri

whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top rick but the water stays under the fluid in the bottom of the cylinders; it doesnt rise to the top and come out the bleed port. might want to update your info bubba dont think youre going to find many wheel cylinders on new vehicles anymore guess all that water will have to find somewhere else to stay politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : kend

on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : jerry

kend wrote most trucks still use drum brakes on the rear. show me a current truck pickup variety - no fair throwing kenworths around with drums in the rear.... perhaps i may be living in the past. my newest old vehicle is a 98 3500 dodge 24v and it does have rr drums. so does my 99. jerry .

From : tom lawrence

so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : redneck tookover hell

most trucks still use drum brakes on the rear. mmmmm nope perhaps i may be living in the past. my newest old vehicle is a 98 3500 dodge 24v and it does have rr drums. time to update that info bubba politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : andrew

thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : andrew

yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : tbone

ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

andrew; what you meant to say is that you pushed the piston back into the caliper the caliper is the u-shaped piece that fits on either side of the rotor and contains the pad-rotor-pad assembly. yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : budd cochran

compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : budd cochran

psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder

From : tbone

device! .

From : denny

people that know what theyre doing denny while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : transurgeon

wrong again there is no equivalent to a dirty filter in the brake system and why did you make a big deal about air in the lines if there was no mention of soft pedal or other indicators of such a condition what youve been told may be air/water in the sytem might be good internet reading but it dont hack it in the real world it wont put air in the lines however ive always been told when you change the pads its a good time to bleed the brakes b/c there may be air/water in the brake lines. the procedure described is like changing the oil without changing the filter.. carl bullshit if the rotors arent scored or warped there is no problem with just installing new pads; his procedure will not put air in the lines; and unless the fluid is contaminated old fluid from the calipers presents no problem you havent changed many have you new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : carl saiyed

new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : transurgeon

bullshit if the rotors arent scored or warped there is no problem with just installing new pads; his procedure will not put air in the lines; and unless the fluid is contaminated old fluid from the calipers presents no problem you havent changed many have you new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : carl saiyed

it wont put air in the lines however ive always been told when you change the pads its a good time to bleed the brakes b/c there may be air/water in the brake lines. the procedure described is like changing the oil without changing the filter.. carl bullshit if the rotors arent scored or warped there is no problem with just installing new pads; his procedure will not put air in the lines; and unless the fluid is contaminated old fluid from the calipers presents no problem you havent changed many have you new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : tbone

unless the rotors are scored or warped turning them just takes the life out of them. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving not making a big deal i just like to bleed the brakes and turn the rotors when i change my pads to keep everything consistant. carl wrong again there is no equivalent to a dirty filter in the brake system and why did you make a big deal about air in the lines if there was no mention of soft pedal or other indicators of such a condition what youve been told may be air/water in the sytem might be good internet reading but it dont hack it in the real world it wont put air in the lines however ive always been told when you change the pads its a good time to bleed the brakes b/c there may be air/water in the brake lines. the procedure described is like changing the oil without changing the filter.. carl bullshit if the rotors arent scored or warped there is no problem with just installing new pads; his procedure will not put air in the lines; and unless the fluid is contaminated old fluid from the calipers presents no problem you havent changed many have you new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : budd cochran

i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : transurgeon

you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : tbone

that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

then i guess that budd and gary dont know what they are doing either since neither one of them say that. - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving people that know what theyre doing denny while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : tbone

that is not very hard to do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

wrong again spin-boi lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

i see that once again you show your maturity and lack of understanding in our language. if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again spin-boi lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : carl saiyed

not making a big deal i just like to bleed the brakes and turn the rotors when i change my pads to keep everything consistant. carl wrong again there is no equivalent to a dirty filter in the brake system and why did you make a big deal about air in the lines if there was no mention of soft pedal or other indicators of such a condition what youve been told may be air/water in the sytem might be good internet reading but it dont hack it in the real world it wont put air in the lines however ive always been told when you change the pads its a good time to bleed the brakes b/c there may be air/water in the brake lines. the procedure described is like changing the oil without changing the filter.. carl bullshit if the rotors arent scored or warped there is no problem with just installing new pads; his procedure will not put air in the lines; and unless the fluid is contaminated old fluid from the calipers presents no problem you havent changed many have you new brakes wont work that well with old glazed rotors air in the lines and old fluid from the calipers pushed back into the lines... carl first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew .

From : transurgeon

budd cochran wrote lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. well you may not like the messenger but this time he is right. compressing is to press together or force into a smaller space. to make something more dense is to condense it. to retract something requires a mechanism for internal force or to remove internal force. ok ill bite exactly what is he claiming is forced into a smaller space or is made more dense .

From : transurgeon

wrong again braniac you are pushing the piston back into a bore in the caliper that is already there.........you push the piston in it displaces the fluid which is returned to the master cylinder...........you compress neither the piston nor the caliper and your saying that is what you are doing doesmt make it so. back to you bernoulli that is right moron and the piston and its bore are part of the caliper so i can say either compress the piston or compress the caliper and be correct. now feel free to continue spinning it is entertaining - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : tbone

you just answered your own question. how do you think that the fluid is being displaced because you are compressing reducing the space in the bore. the fact that the bore already exists is a given since nothing can be compressed that has no space including the space between its molecules to give up. back to you einstein -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again braniac you are pushing the piston back into a bore in the caliper that is already there.........you push the piston in it displaces the fluid which is returned to the master cylinder...........you compress neither the piston nor the caliper and your saying that is what you are doing doesmt make it so. back to you bernoulli that is right moron and the piston and its bore are part of the caliper so i can say either compress the piston or compress the caliper and be correct. now feel free to continue spinning it is entertaining - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed herlips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : tbone

its slang and an abbreviation pinhead. pretty much like saying that you changed the oil instead of saying that you changed the motor oil. no it would be like saying you compressed the engine and squeezed all the oil out of it... really what exactly needs to be pushed back into its bore to get the oil out of an engine taking a quote from a typical haynes manual using a large c-clamp push the piston back into the caliper bore perhaps because you are quoting from an instruction manual where they need to be specific on exactly what to do. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : redneck tookover hell

its slang and an abbreviation pinhead. you must be watching oreilly again. youre starting to bloviate again keep spinning lardass i dont kknow who youre trying io impress we all know what a stupid fucker you are all you do is confirm that with each post politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : redneck tookover hell

this is really getting pointless the only point was your head got yourself in another bind eh lardass politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : miles

tbone wrote perhaps because you are quoting from an instruction manual where they need to be specific on exactly what to do. you stated earlier that it was an accepted term to say compressed the caliper. accepted by whom industry instruction manuals do tend to follow industry terminology. so whose terminology are you accepting if not the industries .

From : tom lawrence

what part of the word slang dont you understand lol this is really getting pointless now so i am done with it. no youre not... .

From : tom lawrence

see at 1127 you posted lol this is really getting pointless now so i am done with it. and here you are at 1132 still going. of senseless arguments on silly points with angry children so ill leave you to wallow in your self imposed ignorance. oh ok... you just wanted to make sure everyone knew you were really done with this.... got it .

From : tbone

you in fact are compressing the space in the bore when you push the piston back into it and that space is part of the caliper so you still lose. if you didnt compress reduce the space the fluid would remain right where it is. if it wasnt already there you could not compress it. i am tired of senseless arguments on silly points with angry children so ill leave you to wallow in your self imposed ignorance. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving but you said compress the caliper and you are not compressing the space in the bore it was already there the fluid wasnt mentioned and even if it was brake fluid for all practical purposes is not compressible back to you lavosier you just answered your own question. how do you think that the fluid is being displaced because you are compressing reducing the space in the bore. the fact that the bore already exists is a given since nothing can be compressed that has no space including the space between its molecules to give up. back to you einstein -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again braniac you are pushing the piston back into a bore in the caliper that is already there.........you push the piston in it displaces the fluid which is returned to the master cylinder...........you compress neither the piston nor the caliper and your saying that is what you are doing doesmt make it so. back to you bernoulli that is right moron and the piston and its bore are part of the caliper so i can say either compress the piston or compress the caliper and be correct. now feel free to continue spinning it is entertaining - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : budd cochran

lol i never asked you to admit to anything. thats just your paranoia acting up again. the fact is that a tech did call it that and there is nothing wrong with it. already forgotton the failed recent attempt to discredit me have you dont ever complainm about my memory tom. and the tech is wrong. gee with all the experience youve claimed to have then you should have seen the error also . . . . . budd conservatives take time to think .

From : budd cochran

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. #2 . . . youre having a girl kiss the caliper youre kissing the caliper really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored nope. but i knew youd try to save face by spinning and nit picking. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. lol care to name a few. btw you are wrong. all solids and liquids can be compressed it is just a matter of how much. so you have the equipment at home to compress distilled water 0.0000000001% in effect liquids and solids are not compressible by the average person. look at the websters definition at the bottom of this link. notice that they mentioned water which iirc is a liquid. look it up in just about any scientific journal and then admit that you are wrong!!! hahahahahaha not wrong just setting you up to act the fool some more with your nit picking. thanks for playing. budd conservatism be sure youre right then go ahead .

From : budd cochran

jerry think on how many times tom has spun and nit-picked his way thru arguments just to make some vague points. im just giving him his own medicine like in the political thread and hes choking on it. budd budd cochran wrote lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. well you may not like the messenger but this time he is right. compressing is to press together or force into a smaller space. to make something more dense is to condense it. to retract something requires a mechanism for internal force or to remove internal force. jerry .

From : jerry

transurgeon wrote well you may not like the messenger but this time he is right. compressing is to press together or force into a smaller space. to make something more dense is to condense it. to retract something requires a mechanism for internal force or to remove internal force. ok ill bite exactly what is he claiming is forced into a smaller space or is made more dense pressing the pistons back into the bore is a act of compressing. call it anything you want but that is what it is. this is from one cite that explains how to change the pads on a motorcycle before ya get started get all your equipment together youre gonna need a ratchet with an extension and a 12mm socket a standard screwdriver the allen hex wrenches from your tool kit a c-clamp or brake caliper compressing tool $5-$6 at auto parts stores 2 sets of kevlar front brake pads a small tube of lock-tite an old towel another from a mustang site tools needed * jack and jackstands * lug wrench * can of brake parts cleaner optional * hi temperature grease * large adjustable c-clamp 6 is fine mwor piston compression tool * small bottle of anti-squeal compound disc brake quiet was my brand * siphon or syringe * new brake fluid * replacement brake pads duh * coat hanger/wire/twine * ratchet and torx t-50 bit socket * may need a big ass wrench pipe fitters wrench still another and the list is endless step 6 using the c-clamp compress the piston in the caliper to make room for the wider and newer brake pads. as to the word dense that is not my term but if you recall compressing is the act of making a material more dense came from budd. i dont have a dog in this arguement and lord knows i argue with tbone but if you are right then you are right. besides i thought only left wingers argued even when they knew they were wrong. jerry .

From : redneck tookover hell

perhaps because you are quoting from an instruction manual where they need to be specific on exactly what to do. that would be for someone such as yourself who really has no mechanical aptitude really what exactly needs to be pushed back into its bore to get the oil out of an engine we thought youd be able to tell us bloviated lardass then again i shouldnt assume you even know what is inside an engine politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. #2 . . . youre having a girl kiss the caliper youre kissing the caliper lol try squeeze or press together like that clamp does to the piston which is part of the caliper. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored nope. but i knew youd try to save face by spinning and nit picking. nope just stating facts. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. lol care to name a few. btw you are wrong. all solids and liquids can be compressed it is just a matter of how much. so you have the equipment at home to compress distilled water 0.0000000001% in effect liquids and solids are not compressible by the average person. yep dont you. i dont however have the equipment to measure it. either way look who is the one trying to save face by spinning and nitpicking now. this is so typical of you budd accuse others of something and then do that very thing in the same post that you just accused them in lol. byw you said that they were not compressible so either way you are still wrong. look at the websters definition at the bottom of this link. notice that they mentioned water which iirc is a liquid. look it up in just about any scientific journal and then admit that you are wrong!!! hahahahahaha not wrong just setting you up to act the fool some more with your nit picking. yawn back to your typical cowardly self. you have some nerve accusing me of never being able to admit to error and trying to spin my way out of it. budd conservatism be sure youre right then go ahead really then what is bush a liberal -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : tbone

lol i never asked you to admit to anything. thats just your paranoia acting up again. the fact is that a tech did call it that and there is nothing wrong with it. already forgotton the failed recent attempt to discredit me have you paranoia will destroy ya! dont ever complainm about my memory tom. complain never. understand how selective it is always. and the tech is wrong. gee with all the experience youve claimed to have then you should have seen the error also . . . . . then why is the tool designed to do it called a brake caliper compression tool sorry budd but you are once again wrong and would have been better just minding you own business for a change. now your hatred has you spinning once again christian beliefs my ass. but you can carry on your little vendetta on your own because i am both bored and done with you on this thread. budd conservatives take time to think because by your example they really need it! -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : nosey

milesh wrote you forget guys that tbone lives in the only part of the usa that speaks a foriegn language and is surrounded by english speaking cities/states. this discussion is ridiculous. you may as well be arguing what to call a sandwich. is it a hoagie a submarine or a hero people talk differently in different parts of the country.i was raised in eastern pennsylvania near new jersey where i believe tom is from. the act of getting the caliper piston back in the bottom of the bore is commonly referred to in that area as compressing the brake caliper. right or wrong thats the terminology there. .

From : tom lawrence

yawn back to your typical cowardly self. you have some nerve accusing me of never being able to admit to error and trying to spin my way out of it. and over an hour after declaring you were done with this... youre still at it! well... i hate to say i told ya so but... .

From : nosey

compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. not bad for just a aulde phartte is it budd have you ever compressed a coil spring .

From : budd cochran

lol i never asked you to admit to anything. thats just your paranoia acting up again. the fact is that a tech did call it that and there is nothing wrong with it. already forgotton the failed recent attempt to discredit me have you paranoia will destroy ya! lol who was it that sought out the threads and posted them in an personal attack why it was you little boy. who was it that found out he had no evidence after hes posted them again it was you. tom i dont have to do any of that stuff because youre doing such a fine job of discrediting yourself with those attacks. dont ever complainm about my memory tom. complain never. understand how selective it is always. youre absolutely right tom my memory is getting more selective but only because you keep screwing up and that gives fewer correct answers from you to compare against. but who is it that has all my possible mistakes bookmarked or stored on their hard drive why thats you again. and the tech is wrong. gee with all the experience youve claimed to have then you should have seen the error also . . . . . then why is the tool designed to do it called a brake caliper compression tool why is a screwdriver called a screwdriver when its used to open cans pry cylinder heads off dig up earthworms check oil levels stir paint cook hot dogs among a bunch of other uses and occasionally turn a screw if names were always accurate your name would have to be changed. sorry budd but you are once again wrong and would have been better just minding you own business for a change. and not keep a promise i made to you i could never break my promise to correct your ever screw up how will you learn what a pathetic non-mechanically minded idiot you are now your hatred has you spinning once again christian beliefs my ass. assumptions again tom more slanderous attacks about my beliefs youre really shooting yourself in the foot tom. the real t-bone is shining thru ands hes not the tolerant liberal he professes to be. but you can carry on your little vendetta on your own because i am both bored and done with you on this thread. oh boo-hoo. little tommy is going to go sulk . . .again!!! budd conservatives take time to think because by your example they really need it! and when was the list time you really did some thinking tommy budd conservatives are better lovers .

From : budd cochran

just curious tom but how many times are you going to be done with me in this thread. i need to go mow the weeds and paint the barn and . . . . budd -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. #2 . . . youre having a girl kiss the caliper youre kissing the caliper lol try squeeze or press together like that clamp does to the piston which is part of the caliper. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored nope. but i knew youd try to save face by spinning and nit picking. nope just stating facts. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. lol care to name a few. btw you are wrong. all solids and liquids can be compressed it is just a matter of how much. so you have the equipment at home to compress distilled water 0.0000000001% in effect liquids and solids are not compressible by the average person. yep dont you. i dont however have the equipment to measure it. either way look who is the one trying to save face by spinning and nitpicking now. this is so typical of you budd accuse others of something and then do that very thing in the same post that you just accused them in lol. byw you said that they were not compressible so either way you are still wrong. look at the websters definition at the bottom of this link. notice that they mentioned water which iirc is a liquid. look it up in just about any scientific journal and then admit that you are wrong!!! hahahahahaha not wrong just setting you up to act the fool some more with your nit picking. yawn back to your typical cowardly self. you have some nerve accusing me of never being able to admit to error and trying to spin my way out of it. budd conservatism be sure youre right then go ahead really then what is bush a liberal -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : transurgeon

your surrender is accepted you in fact are compressing the space in the bore when you push the piston back into it and that space is part of the caliper so you still lose. if you didnt compress reduce the space the fluid would remain right where it is. if it wasnt already there you could not compress it. i am tired of senseless arguments on silly points with angry children so ill leave you to wallow in your self imposed ignorance. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving but you said compress the caliper and you are not compressing the space in the bore it was already there the fluid wasnt mentioned and even if it was brake fluid for all practical purposes is not compressible back to you lavosier you just answered your own question. how do you think that the fluid is being displaced because you are compressing reducing the space in the bore. the fact that the bore already exists is a given since nothing can be compressed that has no space including the space between its molecules to give up. back to you einstein -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again braniac you are pushing the piston back into a bore in the caliper that is already there.........you push the piston in it displaces the fluid which is returned to the master cylinder...........you compress neither the piston nor the caliper and your saying that is what you are doing doesmt make it so. back to you bernoulli that is right moron and the piston and its bore are part of the caliper so i can say either compress the piston or compress the caliper and be correct. now feel free to continue spinning it is entertaining - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : transurgeon

transurgeon wrote well you may not like the messenger but this time he is right. compressing is to press together or force into a smaller space. to make something more dense is to condense it. to retract something requires a mechanism for internal force or to remove internal force. ok ill bite exactly what is he claiming is forced into a smaller space or is made more dense pressing the pistons back into the bore is a act of compressing. call it anything you want but that is what it is. wrong again you are pressing the piston into a bore and displacing the fluid in that bore nothing is being compressed this is from one cite that explains how to change the pads on a motorcycle before ya get started get all your equipment together youre gonna need a ratchet with an extension and a 12mm socket a standard screwdriver the allen hex wrenches from your tool kit a c-clamp or brake caliper compressing tool $5-$6 at auto parts stores 2 sets of kevlar front brake pads a small tube of lock-tite an old towel another from a mustang site tools needed * jack and jackstands * lug wrench * can of brake parts cleaner optional * hi temperature grease * large adjustable c-clamp 6 is fine mwor piston compression tool * small bottle of anti-squeal compound disc brake quiet was my brand * siphon or syringe * new brake fluid * replacement brake pads duh * coat hanger/wire/twine * ratchet and torx t-50 bit socket * may need a big ass wrench pipe fitters wrench still another and the list is endless step 6 using the c-clamp compress the piston in the caliper to make room for the wider and newer brake pads. thats your best shot a couple of quotes from anonymous sites whose authors use imprecise language as to the word dense that is not my term but if you recall compressing is the act of making a material more dense came from budd. and exactly what is being made more dense this is the second time you or your buddy has made that claim and ive yet to see the answer i dont have a dog in this arguement and lord knows i argue with tbone so but if you are right then you are right. but hes not besides i thought only left wingers argued even when they knew they were wrong. cute but no cigar .

From : budd cochran

yep. everytime i get into my lebaron or the old truck but otoh when i step on the bathroom scale it groans and the springs get longer ... would that be decompressing them compressing a coil spring would be correct as youre moving the turns closer together for a given space increasing the coil turns density also called the turns per insert nominal dimension. budd compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. not bad for just a aulde phartte is it budd have you ever compressed a coil spring .

From : jerry

transurgeon wrote if these site were so great you would have posted a link to start out with whats the matter cant figure out google............... here just for you and there is a picture for you so comprehension just may be within reach with your limitations. http//www.automotivetoolsandsupplies.com/brakes-suspension/ats306701007.html jerry .

From : jerry

transurgeon wrote thats your best shot a couple of quotes from anonymous sites whose authors use imprecise language well now your being as stupid as you accuse tbone of being. did you want me to post the entire list of sites which is in the thousands. try to be nice to you and your still a stupid jerk. do a google search and start counting ............. come back when you are through ....... that should get rid of you for a few years. as to the word dense that is not my term but if you recall compressing is the act of making a material more dense came from budd. and exactly what is being made more dense this is the second time you or your buddy has made that claim and ive yet to see the answer and this is the third time ive told you i never used the word dense to explain anything. read my lips..... budd said and i quote compressing is the act of making a material more dense. now do you understand about the word dense where it came from and who used it or do i need to break out the crayons. but if you are right then you are right. but hes not yes he is and if you really think he is wrong your a idiot and if you know he is right then you are the fuck ball little troll you accuse him of being. pick your poison shade tree. jerry .

From : jerry

transurgeon wrote and this is the third time ive told you i never used the word dense to explain anything. bullshit prove it............ read my lips..... budd said and i quote compressing is the act of making a material more dense. now do you understand about the word dense where it came from and who used it or do i need to break out the crayons. but if you are right then you are right. but hes not yes he is and if you really think he is wrong your a idiot and if you know he is right then you are the fuck ball little troll you accuse him of being. pick your poison shade tree. thats the best youve got boy insults and name calling its enough to take care of a moron like yourself. besides you make it so easy with your stupid comments. i guess it must be you sure as hell havent shown how to compress a cast-iron caliper.... compressing a cast iron caliper are you really that desperate to save face or just plain stupid......never mind i already know.............. more i think about it the more the name transurgeon fits you. as with a doctor practicing medicine you are only practicing how to repair transmissions. fits perfectly. .

From : redneck tookover hell

more proof of da boner being done with it tue 31 aug 2004 004302 edt politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

yep. so sad. budd more proof of da boner being done with it tue 31 aug 2004 004302 edt politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

cmon guys. fighting between ourselves is just what tom wants us to do it inflates at the least his ego. budd transurgeon wrote if these site were so great you would have posted a link to start out with whats the matter cant figure out google............... here just for you and there is a picture for you so comprehension just may be within reach with your limitations. http//www.automotivetoolsandsupplies.com/brakes-suspension/ats306701007.html jerry .

From : andrew

first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew who said anything about bleeding the brakes. i just made it clear for those who helped me out before of the procedure before. all i did was change the pads .

From : andrew

first off. materials that you need are a 7 mm allen key chain lock pliers needle nose pliers hammer and a c clamp. procedure- after the tire has been removed located the two screws behind the caliper. for these screws use the 7mm allen key and remove them. next use the chain lock pliers to squeeze the spring located on the front of the caliper and at the same time pull the spring out with the needle nose pliers. now take the hammer and with a couple good hits remove the caliper from the bracket. rest the caliper on a stand to avoid braking the brake line and use the hammer to take out the old brake pads.under the hood for those who dont know loosen or remove the lid from the brake fluid container and using the c clamp push in the circular backing on the caliper until it is fully in. next clean the calipers from any dust or rust and place the new brake pads inside making sure to lube them on the side facing outwards. place the caliper with new pads back into its original place and tighten the screws with the allen key. next place the spring or clip back into place using your hands is good enough. make sure everything is in place and tightened down and proceed with putting the tire back on. place the brake fluid cap back on. a must is to go for a test drive. before you go pump your brake pedal until it is in original working order and go on with checking the brakes. now your are done. for anymore question about this procedure please email back. andrew who said anything about bleeding the brakes. i just made it clear for those who helped me out before of the procedure before. all i did was change the pads no one helped me before. i know about bleeding the brakes but i just changed the pads for a friend since he wore them out so much and know one could tell me what allen key size i needed in order to remove the calipers. this was just to reply to this who helped me out before so dont make such a big deal about it .

From : tbone

please gary stop making a fool out of yourself. you have been doing it far too often. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : larry roose

ok so everyone is correct doesnt add much to the orignal question. i dont always agree with what tbone says especially politically. but in this case i would say that he is basically correct. also i see nothing wrong with the original question which referred to the subject part as a wheel cylinder so i will spin yall a little more. since pistons reside in housings normally referred to as cylinders would you rather call this application a a caliper cylinder.... b a wheel cylinder or c depressing the caliper piston thingy into the bore or cylinder thingy in order to replace the caliper asembly thingy. which is most correct. its a multiple choice question not an essay and it will be graded. larry i see that once again you show your maturity and lack of understanding in our language. if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again spin-boi lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : milesh

you forget guys that tbone lives in the only part of the usa that speaks a foriegn language and is surrounded by english speaking cities/states. tbone wrote i see that once again you show your maturity and lack of understanding in our language. if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. .

From : tbone

please feel free to prove me wrong miles if you can -. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving you forget guys that tbone lives in the only part of the usa that speaks a foriegn language and is surrounded by english speaking cities/states. tbone wrote i see that once again you show your maturity and lack of understanding in our language. if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. .

From : budd cochran

which the perot and no brains or the other budd you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : budd cochran

none of the below. the piston or pistons is / are in a bore or bores in the caliper assembly and you retract it / them with a clamp / clamps or a specific tool if required. pretty bad when you can ace a test by correcting the author. budd ok so everyone is correct doesnt add much to the orignal question. i dont always agree with what tbone says especially politically. but in this case i would say that he is basically correct. also i see nothing wrong with the original question which referred to the subject part as a wheel cylinder so i will spin yall a little more. since pistons reside in housings normally referred to as cylinders would you rather call this application a a caliper cylinder.... b a wheel cylinder or c depressing the caliper piston thingy into the bore or cylinder thingy in order to replace the caliper asembly thingy. which is most correct. its a multiple choice question not an essay and it will be graded. larry i see that once again you show your maturity and lack of understanding in our language. if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong again spin-boi lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

d. all of the above which the perot and no brains or the other budd you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : transurgeon

hey idiot im not the one who claimed that a caliper can be compressed please gary stop making a fool out of yourself. you have been doing it far too often. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : budd cochran

lol budd d. all of the above which the perot and no brains or the other budd you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears.

From : redneck tookover hell

its a shame tom wont post what he agrees with bush about. then there would only need to one or less things to discuss. budd i think therefore im conservative tbone wrote and once again you fail to mention even a single one. i have over and over. yet you still make this stupid statement asking to post them yet again. good grief tbone rtfp! perhaps because for the left he hasnt. bull. for the radical left thats possible. for them its a matter of awareness along with even carrying. it is easier to just say he hasnt done anything good. he could give a rats ass about the environment or conservation and is entire cabinet is clearly in the hip pocket of big business and energy such as coal and oil. who provides the jobs besides after the reps here in az nm co nm ca told the dems to stuff their ineffective forest enviromental & conservation bs after so many fires our forests are looking better and better now that thinning in some areas have been adopted. even with a continued drought here in az and the bark beetle issue this has been the 1st year with a decent fire season. forest neglect by the dems is not effective conservation. while true you dont even say what good he has done for you besides the tax cuts. i have but you disagree with me on those issues. they are a matter of opinion and i do not know yours. but i do tend to think there are many policies of bush you agree with in their entirety just as i agree with some of kerrys and of clintons. i also tend to think there are some policies of kerrys and clintons you completely disagree with. yet what i hear is strictly partisan. you keep saying that but never back it up with actual points and until you do it is just spin. i have over and over. again rtfps. then ill ask again what did bush do to win your vote his views and actions on terrorism taxes environment etc. i realize these disagree with your views but they are mine none the less. and ill ask you again what has kerry done in his 20 year senate career to win your vote sadly that is true. well i have had enough of this thread until the republican convention is over and i hear what his plans are for the future of this country. it wont matter what he says at the convention. youve already made up your mind. so whats the point . 222 288568 20040830142347.04424.00001668@mb-m24.aol.com that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. i guess you be the expert in typical automotive slang politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. not bad for just a aulde phartte is it budd .

From : redneck tookover hell

if i force back any part of the caliper this includes its piston under pressure then i have compressed the caliper. this is simple english and despite your desperate spin it is still correct. what other part of the caliper besides the piston do you plan on forcing under pressure if you have to force a piston into a caliper you have something screwed up course thats not unusual for you so start spinning lardass politics the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich. .

From : budd cochran

got caught with your mechanical knowledge lacking again tom funny how youll insist that gary or i admit an error but you wont. btw in all my years of experience with brake rebuilds the only person i ever heard call it compressing anything was a gutter rat tech hired by a gm dealership. budd please gary stop making a fool out of yourself. you have been doing it far too often. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

you should be used to that letter. it was all over your report cards hahahahaha -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving d. all of the above which the perot and no brains or the other budd you beat me to it.................. i agree perot had no brains but id still like to know how you compress a 10 pound chunk of cast iron with hand tools. or will you admit you screwed up budd and no brains. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving compressed the caliper please explain how this is done. as ross perot said im all ears. budd ya just say that you compressed the caliper. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving yea thanks know its not the wheel cylinder. it was just what i called the actual brakes compressor on the inside of the caliper since i didnt know the exact name. it has nothing to do with the water crap on 28 aug 2004 025321 gmt mopar440@aol.comnet.org redneck tookover hell wrote whats the correct name of the whatsis that contains the caliper piston and its fluid and has its bleed port on top you mean caliper sure isnt wheel cylinder wheel cylinder could be called an inside caliper like the measuring device! .

From : tbone

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. lol care to name a few. btw you are wrong. all solids and liquids can be compressed it is just a matter of how much. look at the websters definition at the bottom of this link. notice that they mentioned water which iirc is a liquid. look it up in just about any scientific journal and then admit that you are wrong!!! hahahahahaha .

From : tbone

lol i never asked you to admit to anything. thats just your paranoia acting up again. the fact is that a tech did call it that and there is nothing wrong with it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving got caught with your mechanical knowledge lacking again tom funny how youll insist that gary or i admit an error but you wont. btw in all my years of experience with brake rebuilds the only person i ever heard call it compressing anything was a gutter rat tech hired by a gm dealership. budd please gary stop making a fool out of yourself. you have been doing it far too often. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tbone

its slang and an abbreviation pinhead. pretty much like saying that you changed the oil instead of saying that you changed the motor oil. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving hey idiot im not the one who claimed that a caliper can be compressed please gary stop making a fool out of yourself. you have been doing it far too often. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving wrong spin-breath face it you screwed the pooch again and are desperately spinning your ass off hahahaha that may be what you are actually doing but it is still referred to as compressing the caliper in typical automotive slang. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving no one you compress neither piston nor caliper but instead return the piston to the bottom of its bore in the caliper. its called pushing the caliper piston back in while true who ever says that they compressed the caliper piston lol -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving psst!!! in a loud whisper its called a piston. budd thanks for the tip but it has nothing to do with the water cylinders. its the brake fluid that rises slightly as you compress the sorry i dont know what its called on the inside of the caliper tom lawrence tnloaswpraemnmcien5g@earthlink.net wrote in message so does my 99. yep - my 99 used to as well. but he said most trucks still... implying that that was the case with trucks rolling off the assembly lines today. as we know all of the big three plus the little two toyota/nissan use discs at all four corners and have for a few years now. .

From : tom lawrence

its slang and an abbreviation pinhead. pretty much like saying that you changed the oil instead of saying that you changed the motor oil. no it would be like saying you compressed the engine and squeezed all the oil out of it... taking a quote from a typical haynes manual using a large c-clamp push the piston back into the caliper bore .

From : transurgeon

-- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : tbone

that is right moron and the piston and its bore are part of the caliper so i can say either compress the piston or compress the caliper and be correct. now feel free to continue spinning it is entertaining - -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. well lets see directly from the worldnet dictionary. http//www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/compress definition 1.. n a cloth pad or dressing with or without medication applied firmly to some part of the body to relieve discomfort or reduce fever 2.. v squeeze or press together; she compressed her lips; the muscle contracted 3.. v make more compact by or as if by pressing; compress the data both # 2 and #3 fit the act of pressing the piston back into its bore. really budd you are just making this too easy. are you bored but......but..but...........you said compress the caliper not the piston back into its bore............... spin on beanie head .

From : jerry

budd cochran wrote lol could you possibly be any more desperate the caliper is an assembly which includes both the body a 10 pound chunk of cast iron and the piston. by definition compressing means to press or squeeze together and since the piston is part of the caliper if i force the piston back into its bore i can say that i compressed the caliper and that is the typical automotive slang for doing just that. now go crawl back into your little corner. wrong tom. compressing is the act of making a material more dense or compacted. most solids and liquids can not be compressed. well you may not like the messenger but this time he is right. compressing is to press together or force into a smaller space. to make something more dense is to condense it. to retract something requires a mechanism for internal force or to remove internal force. jerry .

From : tbone

what part of the word slang dont you understand lol this is really getting pointless now so i am done with it. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving tbone wrote perhaps because you are quoting from an instruction manual where they need to be specific on exactly what to do. you stated earlier that it was an accepted term to say compressed the caliper. accepted by whom industry instruction manuals do tend to follow industry terminology. so whose terminology are you accepting if not the industries .

From : tom lawrence

unless the rotors are scored or warped turning them just takes the life out of them. and makes them less of an effective heat sink meaning brake fade will happen quicker. i always check the run-out on the rotors and toss any that arent within spec. usually the cost of a new set of rotors is about the same the charge for turning the old ones. it is true that brake fluid will absorb moisture over time which will lower the boiling point of the fluid which will then decrease braking effectiveness. if left too long the moisture will start to corrode the internals. its a good idea to flush the brake fluid every two years or so. using a c-clamp on the piston is a good way to get the piston crooked in the bore and screw things up. leave the inner pad in the caliper or remove it from the rotor and put it across the piston and use it to distribute the pressure evenly across the piston. instead of pushing the fluid back up into the master cylinder resevoir i like to open the bleeder screw and allow the fluid to escape that way. this does several things first it will expel any air that somehow or other managed to get into the caliper unlikely but what the hell. second it will purge out some of the old cruddy brake fluid to be replaced with fresh fluid not unlike the concept of changing the transmission fluid thats in the pan... its not the whole volume of fluid but done regularly eventually youll get the old stuff replaced with new stuff. third if there is any corrosion/contamination in the caliper you wont be pushing that back up into the lines valves and abs pump. oh and the fourth i know i cant count thing is ensure that the bleeder screw actually opens instead of sitting closed for years on end then promptly snapping off when you finally need to bleed your system for-real. also left out of the original procedure was to clean and re-grease both the slide bolts as well as the contact points on the caliper bracket with hi-temp brake grease. less is more with this stuff - a thin coat is better than big blobs. lets also not forget to spray the rotor down with brake cleaner because i dont care how neat and clean you are youre getting your greasy paw prints all over that rotor and thats not a good thing to work into the pads. .

From : yofuri

sorry not even close. the oil is drained and refilled when you change it so about 80% is fresh if you dont change the filter. when you bleed the brakes less than 10% is fresh. the air is bled out of the system but the water stays under the fluid in the bottom of the cylinders; it doesnt rise to the top and come out the bleed port. rick it wont put air in the lines however ive always been told when you change the pads its a good time to bleed the brakes b/c there may be air/water in the brake lines. the procedure described is like changing the oil without changing the filter.. carl snip .