2001 Ram PU. Can't find Trailer Tow Connector/Splices

From : ace

Q: coasty wrote and motor week has rated all jeep wrangler liberty and grand cherokee the top suvs out of all the auto makers. these rankings dont mean shit. there are so many different rankings and polls out there. each one you read says they have a list of whats the best vehicle. i take all of them with a grain of salt. bob .

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From : ace

not at all. the problems indicated are not easily caused by the customer with the exception of high centering the truck as max suggested and the fact that dc fixed them indicates that they were not caused by the customer. dc fixed it because the truck was under warranty no other reason needed. the fact that dc fixed it means nothing more than dc is standing fast on its agreement to fix the truck under warranty. its simply good business to not argue with a customer over issues that will promote customer satisfaction and perhaps another sale. -- max give a man a match and he is warm for a short while. light him on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life. tbone wrote nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. you nor i know what the cause of the problems are so to make that assumption is absurd. not at all. the problems indicated are not easily caused by the customer with the exception of high centering the truck as max suggested and the fact that dc fixed them indicates that they were not caused by the customer. problems do occur with any make or model. and i never said anything different. my concern is the frequency of occurrence of problems with this particular vehicle which is simply not either normal or acceptable. what makes this different than many others is dc resolved them. no it simply indicates that dc knows that these problems are not the customers fault but feel free to give me a list of current auto manufacturers that routinely ignore warranty issues. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .

From : ace

on tue 12 jul 2005 045444 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote on tue 12 jul 2005 005254 gmt tbone t-bonenospam@nc.rr.com wrote tbone wrote i didnt say that but there has to be a limit on the number of failures over a given period of time and this seems to be a bit excessive. you base dc reliability on 1 vehicle too funny. nope but this particular vehicle appears to be a pos and the fault appears to be that of dc not the customer. geez tom. i know you like to carry these discussions to incredibly boring and trivial lengths but it gets old. and yet you keep reading it. every company has lemens including cars boats trains etc. maybe this is one maybe it isnt. you have no clue. sure i do if it really had this many problems and they kept fixing it i would call it a lemon. you havent put your sluthy mechanical skills to the first hand test with it. you are listnening to one guy bitch and believing what he says. maybe he caused it maybe he didnt. usually people who cause the damage and get it fixed for free dont complain the way this asshole is. they may call the truck weak but not a lemon and usually dont bad mouth the company this way. i personally dont care one way or the other his opinion has no effect on mine because as you say it could be complete bs and he is whining way to much for me to take him seriously. you need to examine your thought process though. some guy like this one writes in and you believe him lock stock and barrell. but on the other hand anyone else says anything even if they are actually a mechanic with skills and knowledge that exceed yours and you argue with them for weeks. lol get real. i am arguing with max who doesnt even seem to know what a compression ration stands for or is just trying to start another argument and who likes to argue with me even more than i do with him. now if you have something of actual value to add feel free to jump in otherwise stfu. well......i have just this to add then tom........you are even more fucked up than i thought. but no problem you only make a continual moron out of yourself. ill just stfu and watch you implode some more then. enjoy tom i know i will. .

From : mike simmons

i guess that logic is slipping for you so let me explain this. you are making the claim that because dc or rather the dealerships are fixing the problems that they get a point for that and to some degree i agree. speaking of logic slipping.....you agree but you are calling him wrong. but the point that you are as usual blind to is that many of these problems have been caused by dc in the form of lower qc and lower cost parts and for that they get a -1 i continue to ask for proof of this. you have made a general assumption that you have declined to provide proof to back it. thus logic dictates that you are not making a valid point since you have based your theory on unproven assumptions. so when you add the two of them together you get the zero that i gave dc credit for each time they repaired their own screw-ups and a -1 for each time that they didnt. since the dealership did not build the vehicle they get the +1 or each time they help the customer. as for the dealer being a representative of dc that is not as valid as it used to be since many dealerships carry vehicles from many different manufacturers at the same time. so because they represent two or more makes they cannot be representing any find logic in that one..... fine that was for the past two years but what about all of the people that have older vehicles where that is not the case. i would suspect that their low quality cost saving ideas finally came back to bite them in the ass and now they are trying to look good. this might be a good thing for people buying them now but does little for the rest of us. i guess that a second reason for the improvement in qc is the fact that most of their current vehicles are fucking ugly and they cant get by on style anymore. yeah now here is slipped logic at its finest. use a subjective judgement one of style and appeal to justify the change in a totally different category quality and engineering where judgement would be objective. a few areas were equal to ford and chevy for 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks. even if the big 3 are about equal what sets them apart is how they handle problems that do occur. dc scores well as they fixed the problems. really not by what im reading in this group alone. more slipped logic. you are reading off one source the group that cannot possibly be proven to be objective whether it be for or against the product being discussed. the five star dealership has been proven to be nothing more than a marketing ploy and while there are some that actually hold up to the proposed standard there are many more that dont even come close and yet they remain 5 star lol. finally some logic. if dc was as concerned for the customer as you claim they at least should force the dealerships to hold up to the proposed standard. unfortunately the basis for the star rating comes from customer service feedback. thus a dealer is rated on its customer comment forms. thus my laughing at the poor fellow fucking twit who chose to attack us rather than filling out the comment cards that dc sends out. the csi and ffv scores do come off the customer rating card but there is more to the 5 star rating than just that. training for all departments processes put in place to handle everything from customer complaints to who to call if the shitter plugs up. building cleanliness signage in the parking lots periodic employee information meetings special tools are but a few of the things that get checked off the list before a store is given 5 star. i heard once when i was still privvy to such things that if a service manager could bs good enough dc would send him a heated leather office chair. ohhhhhhh.... now i see..... bad mouthin my chair now huh ;^ mike denny .

From : lorne guess noguess net

are you looking for the wiring harness for your trailer if so they are tucked up in the frame rails near the back on the left side i do believe. yes i am. but i am not sure the trailer connector is there or just several splices that i need to connect to to hook up a tow connector harness to. i am able to jump in/under there and get a tow connector connected but i want to be sure of everything before i do. it is dirty nasty and hot under there so i want to do this just once and get it right the first time. bob az .