2000 Dodge Transmission...Advise....<LONG>

From : marsh monster

Q: ======= ======= dirtclod wrote you replied to my last post so i thought you understood my problem. i dont know what is wrong with it if i did i wouldnt be on this computer. when the 2000 dodge 2500 4x4 ctd with 72212 miles reaches 45-50 mph and shifts to overdrive the torque converter locks up then unlocks over and over again. at first i thought it was something wrong with the transmission so i had the fluid and filter changed. then i took it and after the transmission mechanic diagnosed the problem as the tps apps he replaced that and the problem still exists. i read that if you cycle the key three times the code will appear on the odometer. i did this and got code p-1693. i cannot find out what this code means. i am just looking for some advice. ======== ======== some advice is what youll get................ but first........ this symptom is extremely prevelant on dodge cummins diesel trucks. the fact of this in and out of lockup condition is well documented and the repairs addressing the symptom are also well documented. the apps sensor that was replaced on your truck is know to produce a noisey signal to the computer. meaning the signal is not solid enough for the computer to understand what position you have the throttle sitting at. their is a filter available to condition the signal when it leaves the apps sensor in turn making the signal more stable so the computer doesnt have to wonder what the hell is going on. .. .. now.........with that in mind........... .. there are......several major items that cause the symptom not just the apps signal or a bad apps sensor. .. they are................ .. there is a known problem with the wiring leading away from the generator aka altenator. again its a problem in causing a noisy line that affects signals that the computer recieves. .. there is a known problem with the generator wiring cross feeding a noisy signal into the apps signal wire. .. the symptom can be caused by the generator itself malfunctioning not just a noisy signal. .. there is a repair to address the noisy generator signal concern. .. there is a known problem with the factory computer programing that effects the transmissions lock-up controll. a flash of the computer to update the logic in it is available that will effect a change in certain year models of dodge cd trucks with this symptom. .. there is a known problem with the valve body on these trucks that allows a cross feed of transmission fluid apply pressure to the lockup function. the lockup pressure basically bleeds off builds up bleeds off builds up. basically. this makes lockup go in and oput. there is more than one area of the valve body to be concerned with. govenor pressure circuit is a primary concern. .. there is a replacement valvebody for certain year models of dodge cummins diesel trucks. the replacement unit was not intended to address the in and out of lockup symptom but technicians have stated that the symptom went away after installing the updated valve body. .. there is an after market repair kit available for the valve body to address the govenor circuit and others inside the body. .. there is reported success of curing the symptom by replacing the batteries in the truck. m/o...heresay..pulpfiction..remember i told you to unhook the batteries..... ill explain below .. it is fact that bad grounds reek havoc on signal lines. .. it is insuated guessed at hinted to pulpfictionalized.......that dodge never intended for this tranny to last in the application its being used. dodge knew of the symptoms this particuler transmission exhibits not only lockup but also shift concerns..e.t....shift timing soft shifts govenor pres. concerns. dodge has come forward with.....computer flash valve body apps signal generator signal repairs to address this transmission. dodge not after market. .. it is fact that a bad convertor will cause this symptom. .. it is fact that this symptom as well as others concerning the tranny will never set a freekn code !!!!!!!! go figure .. it is fact........that a worn out transmission cant do the job it needs to do and the only way to find out its worn out it to do presure checks controlled shift tests with a shift box pulling the pan for inspection. .. ............ ............. now to recap to possibilities for your symptom.................. apps or apps signal generator or generator signal computer programming flash update available valve body batteries bad grounds convertor transmission now......see why i said sue.....if the guy didnt check every single thing on that list above......he fkn guessed!!!!!!! fact not fiction. now....on to the disconnect battery cable deal i referred to............ unhooking the battery cables on this truck....for whatever reason.... will...reset computer logic back to the original factory programmi

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From : tom lawrence

thank you for all of the wonderful information. you spoke of an aftermarket device that controls the lock up function of the computer. where can i get this who makes it what is it called several companies make them. im running the commander from ats diesel http//www.atsdiesel.com. bd power http//www.bd-power.com makes a product called the torqloc which also does the job. .

From : dirtclod

thank you for all of the wonderful information. you spoke of an aftermarket device that controls the lock up function of the computer. where can i get this who makes it what is it called thank you again dirtclod marsh monster wrote ======= ======= dirtclod wrote you replied to my last post so i thought you understood my problem. i dont know what is wrong with it if i did i wouldnt be on this computer. when the 2000 dodge 2500 4x4 ctd with 72212 miles reaches 45-50 mph and shifts to overdrive the torque converter locks up then unlocks over and over again. at first i thought it was something wrong with the transmission so i had the fluid and filter changed. then i took it and after the transmission mechanic diagnosed the problem as the tps apps he replaced that and the problem still exists. i read that if you cycle the key three times the code will appear on the odometer. i did this and got code p-1693. i cannot find out what this code means. i am just looking for some advice. ======== ======== some advice is what youll get................ but first........ this symptom is extremely prevelant on dodge cummins diesel trucks. the fact of this in and out of lockup condition is well documented and the repairs addressing the symptom are also well documented. the apps sensor that was replaced on your truck is know to produce a noisey signal to the computer. meaning the signal is not solid enough for the computer to understand what position you have the throttle sitting at. their is a filter available to condition the signal when it leaves the apps sensor in turn making the signal more stable so the computer doesnt have to wonder what the hell is going on. . . now.........with that in mind........... . there are......several major items that cause the symptom not just the apps signal or a bad apps sensor. . they are................ . there is a known problem with the wiring leading away from the generator aka altenator. again its a problem in causing a noisy line that affects signals that the computer recieves. . there is a known problem with the generator wiring cross feeding a noisy signal into the apps signal wire. . the symptom can be caused by the generator itself malfunctioning not just a noisy signal. . there is a repair to address the noisy generator signal concern. . there is a known problem with the factory computer programing that effects the transmissions lock-up controll. a flash of the computer to update the logic in it is available that will effect a change in certain year models of dodge cd trucks with this symptom. . there is a known problem with the valve body on these trucks that allows a cross feed of transmission fluid apply pressure to the lockup function. the lockup pressure basically bleeds off builds up bleeds off builds up. basically. this makes lockup go in and oput. there is more than one area of the valve body to be concerned with. govenor pressure circuit is a primary concern. . there is a replacement valvebody for certain year models of dodge cummins diesel trucks. the replacement unit was not intended to address the in and out of lockup symptom but technicians have stated that the symptom went away after installing the updated valve body. . there is an after market repair kit available for the valve body to address the govenor circuit and others inside the body. . there is reported success of curing the symptom by replacing the batteries in the truck. m/o...heresay..pulpfiction..remember i told you to unhook the batteries..... ill explain below . it is fact that bad grounds reek havoc on signal lines. . it is insuated guessed at hinted to pulpfictionalized.......that dodge never intended for this tranny to last in the application its being used. dodge knew of the symptoms this particuler transmission exhibits not only lockup but also shift concerns..e.t....shift timing soft shifts govenor pres. concerns. dodge has come forward with.....computer flash valve body apps signal generator signal repairs to address this transmission. dodge not after market. . it is fact that a bad convertor will cause this symptom. . it is fact that this symptom as well as others concerning the tranny will never set a freekn code !!!!!!!! go figure . it is fact........that a worn out transmission cant do the job it needs to do and the only way to find out its worn out it to do presure checks controlled shift tests with a shift box pulling the pan for inspection. . ........... ............ now to recap to possibilities for your symptom.................. apps or apps signal generator or generator signal computer programming flash update available valve body batteries bad grounds convertor transmission now......see why i said sue.....if the guy didnt check every single thing on that list above......he fkn guessed!!!!!!! fact no

From : marsh monster

====== ====== dirtclod wrote thank you for all of the wonderful information. you spoke of an aftermarket device that controls the lock up function of the computer. where can i get this who makes it what is it called thank you again dirtclod ========== ========== take a look http//www.dieselpage.com/bdebd24.htm marsh .