1700lbs in a V-6 pickup?
From : steve
Q: would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve .
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From : nosey
steve wrote would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve the load rating for your truck can be found on a sticker on the drivers door jamb and if you really want to know for sure you need to visit a scale that can weigh the front and rear axles independently. gvwr is the gross vehicle weight rating. that is the maximum total weight that your truck is allowed to weigh including the truck load fuel passengers and anything else including the tongue weight of a trailer more on trailers later. there is also gawr gross axle weight rating for the front and rear. that is the maximum weight allowed on that axle. you are not supposed to exceed any of these three ratings. its possible to stay under gross weight and have an overloaded axle or to load both axles under the gawr for each and still be over gross. will 1700 lbs. damage your truck or cause you to crash who knows for sure. it would probably be safer if you rented or borrowed a utility trailer that could handle the load and tow it but now you get to worry about the towing capacity. it isnt hard to figure out if you understand how. check your owners manual for the maximum tongue weight you are allowed with the type of hitch you have. its different for each type truck and hitch. the tongue weight is the amount of weight the trailer puts on the hitch ball. the tongue weight of ball towed trailers must be not less than 10% but no more than 15% of the trailers weight. if your truck is equipped with a bumper hitch it might be rated for 500 lbs max tongue weight. use the hitch rating to figure out what the trailer weight allowance would be. the max trailer weight rating for a 500 lb. tongue weight rating is 5000 lbs. this is at 10% tongue weight. if the trailers tongue weight is 15% of the trailer weight you only get to tow up to 3333 lbs. remember that the tongue weight takes away from your gvwr and gawr so dont load the truck bed up to capacity and still expect to tow a trailer. to figure out what the tongue weight is you need to weigh the truck without the trailer and then with the trailer. the total weight of the combined rig subtracted from the total weight of the truck without the trailer is the trailers weight. the difference between the weight of the truck before and after the trailer is connected is the tongue weight. .
From : findingking
i have carried 1500lb in a 94 dakota v6 with no problem. it sags a little but just take it easy over the bumps. no braking problem and no acceleration problem either but then again my v6 puts out 282 hp. on 23 may 2004 141311 -0700 steveindfw@yahoo.com steve wrote would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve .
From : greg o
would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve the only way to know is to check the door sticker but most 1/2 ton pickups are rated for somewhere around 1500 lbs+/- so you may not be that far over. it also depends on how often you plan on hauling this much weight. if it is a one time thing i doubt you will damage anything. if you plan on doing it on a daily basis the truck will suffer a bit. greg .
From : toxictavrn
i checked and my vehicle supports something like 3500 lbs per axle...way more than i need. thanks for the tip!! yeah but that needs to include the weight of the whole truck as well use the formula posted below is 1700lbs too much the truck can and will probably handle it but by the numbers it cant and you should be very carefull if you do it everything on that truck is not designed for that kinda weight again theres a margin of error/safety built in and it should be able to handle it but with reservations the load rating for your truck can be found on a sticker on the drivers door jamb and if you really want to know for sure you need to visit a scale that can weigh the front and rear axles independently. gvwr is the gross vehicle weight rating. that is the maximum total weight that your truck is allowed to weigh including the truck load fuel passengers and anything else including the tongue weight of a trailer more on trailers later. there is also gawr gross axle weight rating for the front and rear. that is the maximum weight allowed on that axle. you are not supposed to exceed any of these three ratings. its possible to stay under gross weight and have an overloaded axle or to load both axles under the gawr for each and still be over gross. will 1700 lbs. damage your truck or cause you to crash who knows for sure. it would probably be safer if you rented or borrowed a utility trailer that could handle the load and tow it but now you get to worry about the towing capacity. it isnt hard to figure out if you understand how. check your owners manual for the maximum tongue weight you are allowed with the type of hitch you have. its different for each type truck and hitch. the tongue weight is the amount of weight the trailer puts on the hitch ball. the tongue weight of ball towed trailers must be not less than 10% but no more than 15% of the trailers weight. if your truck is equipped with a bumper hitch it might be rated for 500 lbs max tongue weight. use the hitch rating to figure out what the trailer weight allowance would be. the max trailer weight rating for a 500 lb. tongue weight rating is 5000 lbs. this is at 10% tongue weight. if the trailers tongue weight is 15% of the trailer weight you only get to tow up to 3333 lbs. remember that the tongue weight takes away from your gvwr and gawr so dont load the truck bed up to capacity and still expect to tow a trailer. to figure out what the tongue weight is you need to weigh the truck without the trailer and then with the trailer. the total weight of the combined rig subtracted from the total weight of the truck without the trailer is the trailers weight. the difference between the weight of the truck before and after the trailer is connected is the tongue weight. shepherds we shall be for thee my lord for thee power hath decended forth from thy hand so our feet may swiftly carry out thy command we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti .
From : greg o
i checked and my vehicle supports something like 3500 lbs per axle...way more than i need. thanks for the tip!! better read the tag again. often the tag will say 3500 lbs per axle and a gross vehicle weight of maybe 6000 lbs. dont forget the weight of the truck is in this equation too. the truck empty is probably 4000+ lbs. subtract the empty weight of the truck from the sticker weight to get payload. greg .
From : steve
i checked and my vehicle supports something like 3500 lbs per axle...way more than i need. thanks for the tip!! the load rating for your truck can be found on a sticker on the drivers door jamb and if you really want to know for sure you need to visit a scale that can weigh the front and rear axles independently. gvwr is the gross vehicle weight rating. that is the maximum total weight that your truck is allowed to weigh including the truck load fuel passengers and anything else including the tongue weight of a trailer more on trailers later. there is also gawr gross axle weight rating for the front and rear. that is the maximum weight allowed on that axle. you are not supposed to exceed any of these three ratings. its possible to stay under gross weight and have an overloaded axle or to load both axles under the gawr for each and still be over gross. will 1700 lbs. damage your truck or cause you to crash who knows for sure. it would probably be safer if you rented or borrowed a utility trailer that could handle the load and tow it but now you get to worry about the towing capacity. it isnt hard to figure out if you understand how. check your owners manual for the maximum tongue weight you are allowed with the type of hitch you have. its different for each type truck and hitch. the tongue weight is the amount of weight the trailer puts on the hitch ball. the tongue weight of ball towed trailers must be not less than 10% but no more than 15% of the trailers weight. if your truck is equipped with a bumper hitch it might be rated for 500 lbs max tongue weight. use the hitch rating to figure out what the trailer weight allowance would be. the max trailer weight rating for a 500 lb. tongue weight rating is 5000 lbs. this is at 10% tongue weight. if the trailers tongue weight is 15% of the trailer weight you only get to tow up to 3333 lbs. remember that the tongue weight takes away from your gvwr and gawr so dont load the truck bed up to capacity and still expect to tow a trailer. to figure out what the tongue weight is you need to weigh the truck without the trailer and then with the trailer. the total weight of the combined rig subtracted from the total weight of the truck without the trailer is the trailers weight. the difference between the weight of the truck before and after the trailer is connected is the tongue weight. .
From : stephen h westin
steveindfw@yahoo.com steve writes i checked and my vehicle supports something like 3500 lbs per axle...way more than i need. thanks for the tip!! that as someone pointed out *includes the vehicle itself*. is there a payload number on the sticker if so you need to subtract the weight of everything else the truck is carrying e.g. you. snip -- -stephen h. westin any information or opinions in this message are mine they do not represent the position of cornell university or any of its sponsors. .
From : bryan swadener
the further forward the weight such that the front axle handles a share of it the better. try to get it forward-of or at least even-with the rear axle centerline. bryan i have carried 1500lb in a 94 dakota v6 with no problem. it sags a little but just take it easy over the bumps. no braking problem and no acceleration problem either but then again my v6 puts out 282 hp. on 23 may 2004 141311 -0700 steveindfw@yahoo.com steve wrote would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve .
From : Annonymous
on 23 may 2004 141311 -0700 steveindfw@yahoo.com steve wrote would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck any feedback would be appreciated. thanks! steve i cant imagine it would. i have carried some good sized loads in my 98 dakota 4x4 with the v6- full lift of drywall and about 4 loads of crushed stone with the heaviest weighing in at 2700 lbs. and yes that was a bit much as she sagged some and i could smell the brakes on the hills. the next time i went with 2000lbs and she handled it great. john and i know someone is going to be thinking bullshit a dakota cant carry that much well i had to go through scales before and after being loaded and the scales seemed accurate as the first reading was right on for the dakota unloaded weight. .
From : jigger
dont forget the brakes on your truck were not meant for that type of work... also the bearings on your axle are not in the best location for that kind of weight... there is more to a 3/4 or 1 ton truck than the numbers on the panels... the bearings are different brakes are bigger springs and if you ask any knowedgable mechanic they would shudder at what you want to do... save your life and possibly someone elses...... do not overload your truck!!!!!!!!!!!! mark. on 23 may 2004 141311 -0700 steveindfw@yahoo.com steve wrote would it hurt to carry 1700lbs of solid metal literally in the back of a v-6 200 horsepower 1/2 ton pickup i know that 1700lbs is more than 1/2 a ton but im not sure if thats an accurate way to measure a trucks carrying capabilities. i know that i can tow more than 1700lbs...but is it safe to carry that much weight in the back of the truck .