13 MILLION STINKING USA DIESELS
From : greekphilosophizer
Q: http//www.reuters.com/article/environment/idusn2843908120070228 http//www.theautochannel.com/f//2007/02/28/038573.html washington feb. 28 2007 -- diesel fumes pose a major health risk to commuters according to a new report by the non-profit clean air task force. the boston-based environmental research group reported today that even though we spend only a tiny portion of our day commuting its during the commute that we receive more than half our overall exposure to deadly fine particle pollution. exposure to diesel exhaust during commutes poses a serious public health risk that needs to be addressed said george thurston professor of environmental medicine at new york universitys school of medicine who wrote the foreword to the report. fine particle pollution including diesel exhaust can cause lung cancer stroke heart attack and infant death. it also triggers asthma attacks and makes people more likely to become allergic. some health researchers have estimated that such fine particles are responsible for shortening the lives of at least 70000 americans each year. the task force specifically investigated diesel exhaust levels during commutes in new york ny; boston ma; austin tx and columbus oh. the task force documented diesel particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars buses and trains than in the ambient outdoor air in those cities. these are examples of likely results during a commute anywhere in the country where there is significant diesel traffic. our investigation demonstrated that you may be exposed to high levels of diesel particles -- four to eight times the levels in the outdoor air -- whether you commute by car bus ferry train or on foot said bruce hill senior scientist with catf. by contrast hill noted pollution levels were negligible for commuters in and near vehicles equipped with modern pollution controls or those that run on lower polluting fuels such as natural gas. the problem is that there are 13 million diesel engines in service today and virtually all are exempt from modern pollution controls said conrad schneider advocacy director for the task force. however our study showed that simply replacing the muffler of trucks or buses with a diesel particle filter can reduce commuter exposure substantially he said. by epa regulation the ultra-low sulfur diesel ulsd fuel that is necessary to keep these diesel particle filters operating optimally became available nationwide late last year. the task force called on federal and state agencies to increase funding to clean up highly polluting buses and other existing diesel engines. it urged the u.s. environmental protection agency to require that long-haul trucks clean up when their engines are rebuilt. it also urged the epa to move ahead with plans to set new pollution standards for diesel trains and diesel-powered boats including commuter ferries. .
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From : vlad
highcountry wrote i hate to be the one to bring this to your attention but everyone is going to die even if they live in an environmentally controlled padded room. people should be worrying about the wackos in the middle east and korea.... forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! .
From : bill putney
vlad the impaler wrote bill putney wrote vlad the impaler wrote forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! oh boy! another live one from the good is evil and evil is good club. bill your post proves that you dont have a clue about factual us history over the last 50 years. ok - since the us is so awful please tell us your choice of countries/governments that you consider the gold-standard of decency in the world today. cant wait for the answer - this ought to be good! bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .
From : steve b
bill putney bptn@kinez.net wrote ok - since the us is so awful please tell us your choice of countries/governments that you consider the gold-standard of decency in the world today. cant wait for the answer - this ought to be good! bill putney the ignorance of the general populace is deafening. when tv programs can stop the man on the street and ask them basic general knowledge questions and they cant get it right its scary. and then when they ask who the vice president or speaker of the house or who their own congressman is and the cant get it right its more than scary. yet these poor poor poor ignorant fools can have an isp and blog on and flood groups and generally prattle on about all manner of things except the actual topic of the group. and yet people still give them too much respect and credibility. talking with ignorant people is an exercise in futility. to do so one must lower themselves intellectually so as to even have a two way conversation. and in the pursuant conversation its like talking to a schizophrenic. wait a schizophrenic makes more sense than most of these lost souls. theyve never served in the armed forces. they havent been outside the united states unless you consider a booze cruise in the caribbean to be outside the united states. they know nothing of the history of what brought us to where we are or why people in other countries may have some issues with the us. give them a globe and ask where the major countries of the world are and they cant do it. and yet they go on and on and on about things as though they were intelligent informed human beings. amazing. steve .
From : bill putney
steve b wrote bill putney bptn@kinez.net wrote ok - since the us is so awful please tell us your choice of countries/governments that you consider the gold-standard of decency in the world today. cant wait for the answer - this ought to be good! bill putney the ignorance of the general populace is deafening. when tv programs can stop the man on the street and ask them basic general knowledge questions and they cant get it right its scary. and then when they ask who the vice president or speaker of the house or who their own congressman is and the cant get it right its more than scary. yet these poor poor poor ignorant fools can have an isp and blog on and flood groups and generally prattle on about all manner of things except the actual topic of the group. and yet people still give them too much respect and credibility. talking with ignorant people is an exercise in futility. to do so one must lower themselves intellectually so as to even have a two way conversation. and in the pursuant conversation its like talking to a schizophrenic. wait a schizophrenic makes more sense than most of these lost souls. theyve never served in the armed forces. they havent been outside the united states unless you consider a booze cruise in the caribbean to be outside the united states. they know nothing of the history of what brought us to where we are or why people in other countries may have some issues with the us. give them a globe and ask where the major countries of the world are and they cant do it. and yet they go on and on and on about things as though they were intelligent informed human beings. amazing. steve how true. nor could those same people tell you what the terms caliphate dhimmah and jizya mean. a true modern-day liberals delimmma. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .
From : stupendous man
i dont think the small number of european diesel cars on the road make much of a contribution compared to the number of large displacement diesels in service. how much can my 1600cc vw diesel contribute at 48 mpg and 20 gallons per month or my 3 liter benz -- stupendous man defender of freedom advocate of liberty .
From : ernie willson
greekphilosophizer wrote http//www.reuters.com/article/environment/idusn2843908120070228 http//www.theautochannel.com/f//2007/02/28/038573.html washington feb. 28 2007 -- diesel fumes pose a major health risk to commuters according to a new report by the non-profit clean air task force. the boston-based environmental research group reported today that even though we spend only a tiny portion of our day commuting its during the commute that we receive more than half our overall exposure to deadly fine particle pollution. exposure to diesel exhaust during commutes poses a serious public health risk that needs to be addressed said george thurston professor of environmental medicine at new york universitys school of medicine who wrote the foreword to the report. fine particle pollution including diesel exhaust can cause lung cancer stroke heart attack and infant death. it also triggers asthma attacks and makes people more likely to become allergic. some health researchers have estimated that such fine particles are responsible for shortening the lives of at least 70000 americans each year. the task force specifically investigated diesel exhaust levels during commutes in new york ny; boston ma; austin tx and columbus oh. the task force documented diesel particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars buses and trains than in the ambient outdoor air in those cities. these are examples of likely results during a commute anywhere in the country where there is significant diesel traffic. our investigation demonstrated that you may be exposed to high levels of diesel particles -- four to eight times the levels in the outdoor air -- whether you commute by car bus ferry train or on foot said bruce hill senior scientist with catf. by contrast hill noted pollution levels were negligible for commuters in and near vehicles equipped with modern pollution controls or those that run on lower polluting fuels such as natural gas. the problem is that there are 13 million diesel engines in service today and virtually all are exempt from modern pollution controls said conrad schneider advocacy director for the task force. however our study showed that simply replacing the muffler of trucks or buses with a diesel particle filter can reduce commuter exposure substantially he said. by epa regulation the ultra-low sulfur diesel ulsd fuel that is necessary to keep these diesel particle filters operating optimally became available nationwide late last year. the task force called on federal and state agencies to increase funding to clean up highly polluting buses and other existing diesel engines. it urged the u.s. environmental protection agency to require that long-haul trucks clean up when their engines are rebuilt. it also urged the epa to move ahead with plans to set new pollution standards for diesel trains and diesel-powered boats including commuter ferries. the report opines that our investigation demonstrated that you may be exposed to high levels of diesel particles -- four to eight times the levels in the outdoor air so what. have they demonstrated that a four fold to eight fold increase actually means something. i see no proof in this article that there is a problem here. ej in nj .
From : who
stupendous man spam@trap.com wrote i dont think the small number of european diesel cars on the road make much of a contribution compared to the number of large displacement diesels in service. how much can my 1600cc vw diesel contribute at 48 mpg and 20 gallons per month or my 3 liter benz i lot to my nose when im following you on acceleration or up hills. its visible coming out of your pipe fancy tests arent needed. however the new diesels using the new in na much cleaner diesel fuel may do the trick to make diesels more acceptable. .
From : max dodge
i lot to my nose when im following you on acceleration or up hills. its visible coming out of your pipe fancy tests arent needed. clearly you dont know much about electronic controls on diesels nor do you know much about modern diesel engines. and as far as stink goes id bet that if we put you in an gasoline fume free environment for a few hours youd smell those again as well. id venture a guess and say that the smell of gasoline burning engines is so prevalent that we as a population sumply dont notice it that much anymore. sad really. -- max join www.devilbrad.com and find out what free exchange of info is all about. there are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty soap ballot jury and ammo. please use in that order. -ed howdershelt author stupendous man spam@trap.com wrote i dont think the small number of european diesel cars on the road make much of a contribution compared to the number of large displacement diesels in service. how much can my 1600cc vw diesel contribute at 48 mpg and 20 gallons per month or my 3 liter benz i lot to my nose when im following you on acceleration or up hills. its visible coming out of your pipe fancy tests arent needed. however the new diesels using the new in na much cleaner diesel fuel may do the trick to make diesels more acceptable. .
From : bob
greekphilosophizer wrote http//www.reuters.com/article/environment/idusn2843908120070228 http//www.theautochannel.com/f//2007/02/28/038573.html washington feb. 28 2007 -- diesel fumes pose a major health risk to commuters according to a new report by the non-profit clean air task force. the sky is falling! the sky is falling! -- ..bob 2006 fxdi hot rod 2001 dodge dakota qc 5.9/4x4/3.92 1966 mustang coupe - daily driver 1965 ffr cobra - 427w efi damn fast. .
From : highcountry
i hate to be the one to bring this to your attention but everyone is going to die even if they live in an environmentally controlled padded room. people should be worrying about the wackos in the middle east and korea they are much more likely to kill you and much sooner than fine particles! grow up and stop being used by the well save you control police! bruce .
From : stormin mormon
roy wrote and the problem with the cons is they ignore evrything as long as it does not affect them personally its not just conservitives. the dems ignored major issues all through the 90s. please list a few of these and explain exactly how they were ignored. your statement is one of hatred and bias when in fact almost all politicians are self serving and ignore what isnt of interest to them. pkb miles. cmon miles rush is under the influence pick a better example.vbg pain killers lol. this week rush has been bashing the republicans big time. mostly talking about a few of the louder mouthed ones who claim theyre conservatives. oh yea thats really bashing the conservatives lol! todays republican party is anything but conservative. true most of them are just a greedy bunch of pricks using the right wing desire for smaller gubberment and reduction in regulations to further fuck the people. -- if at first you dont succeed youre not cut out for skydiving .
From : bill putney
vlad the impaler wrote forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! oh boy! another live one from the good is evil and evil is good club. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .
From : bill putney
vlad the impaler wrote forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! oh boy! another live one from the good is evil and evil is good club. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .
From : mudmonkey
on mar 18 628 pm vlad v...@earth1.net wrote highcountry wrote i hate to be the one to bring this to your attention but everyone is going to die even if they live in an environmentally controlled padded room. people should be worrying about the wackos in the middle east and korea.... forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! go back to your ralph nader and al gore shrine and get a life. .
From : bill putney
vlad the impaler wrote forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! oh boy! another live one from the good is evil and evil is good club. bill putney to reply by e-mail replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter x .
From : steve b
its funny that those most afraid to die are also those most afraid to live. somethings going to kill you. brain cancer. heart disease. a runaway beer truck. there are no guarantees. quit whining and live. steve .
From : vlad
bill putney wrote vlad the impaler wrote forget the wackos in the middle east and korea weve got the very worst wackos in washington! oh boy! another live one from the good is evil and evil is good club. bill putney bill your post proves that you dont have a clue about factual us history over the last 50 years. declassified us docs show that the us has conducted secret experiments on the the us population with drugs disease and radiation. declassified us docs show that us involvement in vietnam was started by official lies about a vietnamese attack in the gulf of tonkin. declassified us docs show that we have consistently overthrown democracies and supported dictatorships in more than a few cases. declassified us docs show.....well....look if youre interested in facts go find out the facts for yourself. the internet is the worlds biggest library. once you know you will quit spewing bullshit like us - good right etc. the us you thought you knew has not existed for quite some time. .