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'08 Dakota 4.7

From : joe

Q: anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

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From : picasso

abby.normal wrote i get ave. 20 mpg with my 4.7 2007 dakota joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam i bet you do. .

From : abby normal

need a picture abby.normal wrote i get ave. 20 mpg with my 4.7 2007 dakota joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam i bet you do. .

From : picasso

joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments as hard on fuel as a fullsize. my brother needed the fifth wheel in my chev 5.3 ext cab z71 for a week with my trailer and he rented me a truck it was 2mpg harder than my chev. nice and peppy though little small inside after getting used to the fullsize. .

From : bill dukenfield

joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments i have a 2002 4.7. so far 96000 + miles it has been reliable and can still smoke the tires. it still has the idle problem i filed a lemon law suit about. i plan to get that fixed when the power train warranty expires. i had to replace a starter too. its a german piece of electronic junk like all german electrical products are. jam .

From : rdtaxted

i have an 2004 quad cab 4.7 have 52000 on it. replaced the starter as well at 51000 i just had 1 with a bad starter. whats the idle problem u mentioned mine would idler weird sometimes dropping to 500 r.p.m. put it in neutral go to 650 or so then back to drive idle would hold. dealer cleaned the trottle body seemed to help but would low idler now and then. now since winter has arrived i havent noticed the low idler problem. rog joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments i have a 2002 4.7. so far 96000 + miles it has been reliable and can still smoke the tires. it still has the idle problem i filed a lemon law suit about. i plan to get that fixed when the power train warranty expires. i had to replace a starter too. its a german piece of electronic junk like all german electrical products are. jam .

From : joe

$9a566e8b@.aliant.net joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments as hard on fuel as a fullsize. my brother needed the fifth wheel in my chev 5.3 ext cab z71 for a week with my trailer and he rented me a truck it was 2mpg harder than my chev. nice and peppy though little small inside after getting used to the fullsize. is this an 08 youre talking about im interested in the 08 as the hp is now up to 302. .

From : picasso

joe wrote $9a566e8b@.aliant.net joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments as hard on fuel as a fullsize. my brother needed the fifth wheel in my chev 5.3 ext cab z71 for a week with my trailer and he rented me a truck it was 2mpg harder than my chev. nice and peppy though little small inside after getting used to the fullsize. is this an 08 youre talking about im interested in the 08 as the hp is now up to 302. yes it was an 08 he gave me quad cab 4x4 4.7l but dont take my opinions as the gospel. i had it for about 9 days and put about 4 tanks of fuel through it traveling around for christmas. im not a big man 220lbs 511 but i just found the room in the chev better and the fuel mileage better. my chev has a plow on it as well. im a ford man at heart bought a chev pickup for myself a honda for the wife and my brother rented me a dodge... .

From : steve lusardi

joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : joe

wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : bill dukenfield

joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam .

From : steve lusardi

17 to 20 mpg and thats with a full banks kit almost 500 hp. the best mileage occurs on rural roads not on the freeways. the truck is about as aerodynamic as an outhouse. steve wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : joe

picasso picasso@gmail.com wrote in joe wrote $9a566e8b@.aliant.net joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments as hard on fuel as a fullsize. my brother needed the fifth wheel in my chev 5.3 ext cab z71 for a week with my trailer and he rented me a truck it was 2mpg harder than my chev. nice and peppy though little small inside after getting used to the fullsize. is this an 08 youre talking about im interested in the 08 as the hp is now up to 302. yes it was an 08 he gave me quad cab 4x4 4.7l but dont take my opinions as the gospel. i had it for about 9 days and put about 4 tanks of fuel through it traveling around for christmas. im not a big man 220lbs 511 but i just found the room in the chev better and the fuel mileage better. my chev has a plow on it as well. im a ford man at heart bought a chev pickup for myself a honda for the wife and my brother rented me a dodge... my 360 dak gets around 14 overall so id expect the 4.7 to get at least 15. ; .

From : picasso

joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments all my tanks ranged from 15-15.5mpg on the dakota i had. it had 18000kms on it lot of highway in that travelling for xmas. i get a faithful 17mpg from my chev -- likely with more city than i did with the dakota only improves slightly with more highway anyway... .

From : abby normal

i get ave. 20 mpg with my 4.7 2007 dakota joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam .

From : joe

got details on the banks kit sounds interesting. steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in 17 to 20 mpg and thats with a full banks kit almost 500 hp. the best mileage occurs on rural roads not on the freeways. the truck is about as aerodynamic as an outhouse. steve wow. so what are we talking 14/15 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : jmc

suddenly without warning joe exclaimed 1/2/2008 1216 pm @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments wow. so what are we talking 14/15 my 2001 4.7l 4x4 slt dak currently gets about 13.5 city 17-18 highway. but when it was new it got closer to 19mpg average both city and hwy-ish miles. i love my dak though wouldnt trade it for twice the mileage. jmc .

From : steve lusardi

joe there are more possibilities than banks as well. i am running the the six gun and speed loader with the high ram intake turbo waste gate actuator and banks 4 exhaust system including the 4 straight through stainless glass pack muffler. there are simillar offerings from others that do similar deeds. basically you advance the timing of the injection events modify the common rail fuel pressure and modify the air flow into and exhaust gasses from the engine. these changes can be made without causing loss of mileage because diesel engines do not use air controls and therefore do not run under vacuum conditions. if fact the timing changes can actually increase miles per gallon. of course when your foot is in it you can expect to burn the fuel. however the message is that this extra reserve power comes at no sacrifice in efficiency. after driving a high perforfance diesel i will never drive another gas powered vehicle. the drivability with such low engine speed torque and the smoothness offered from idle to top speed are characteristics simply not available with gasoline engines which run under vacuum conditions unless wot. i can talk about this forever but before you commit yourself drive a cummins powered truck and see for yourself. then see if you can find an unhappy owner of one! steve got details on the banks kit sounds interesting. steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in 17 to 20 mpg and thats with a full banks kit almost 500 hp. the best mileage occurs on rural roads not on the freeways. the truck is about as aerodynamic as an outhouse. steve wow. so what are we talking 14/15 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : rdtaxted

how many miles were on the 2008 dakota your brother rented for u to us rog joe wrote anybody have one impressions and/or comments as hard on fuel as a fullsize. my brother needed the fifth wheel in my chev 5.3 ext cab z71 for a week with my trailer and he rented me a truck it was 2mpg harder than my chev. nice and peppy though little small inside after getting used to the fullsize. .

From : picasso

abby.normal wrote need a picture abby.normal wrote i get ave. 20 mpg with my 4.7 2007 dakota joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam i bet you do. id love a picture. you talking us mpg or imperial mpg 4.4l/gal or 3.79l/gal convert it to a real unit like litres and kilometers l/100km or something standard. .

From : picasso

jmc wrote suddenly without warning joe exclaimed 1/2/2008 1216 pm @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments wow. so what are we talking 14/15 my 2001 4.7l 4x4 slt dak currently gets about 13.5 city 17-18 highway. but when it was new it got closer to 19mpg average both city and hwy-ish miles. i love my dak though wouldnt trade it for twice the mileage. jmc did dodge ever put a diesel in any of the dakotas i thought i saw a diesel jeep cherokee running around town here... i never did see one on a lot that i remember it seems to me it was a 3.0l diesel with quite impressive power. surprising north america hasnt made better use of diesel .

From : steve lusardi

well not exactly. an italian diesel was introduced in the 3.0l size range in the jeep and was discontinued for emissions reasons. i actually find that amazing because mercedes has several engines in that size range that are quite powerful and are emissions compliant like the engine in the sprinter. it is however important to note that all automotive diesel engines now produced in that range are of the new high speed variety and those engines are lightweight and have a broader speed range but suffer poorer brake mean specific fuel consumption bmsfc. they have a bsmfc in the range of 4.1 lbs per hp hour as opposed to the conventional industrial diesel of 3.7/3.8 lbs per hp hour. these more modern diesels trade off efficiency for reduced noise particulate and no emissions. although i regret the efficiency and mileage loss this change represents the decrease in weight and noise makes their use quite appealing. they do not have the same brute low speed torque the industrial engine has either. this has been sacrificed for the higher engine speed range. however a lot of these detractions are smothered by the fuel energy advantage as diesel has 25% greater thermal energy by volume over gasoline which means a 25% increase in mileage and range even if the bmsfc is the same as a gasoline motor. this is pretty hard to beat. especially when you can drive the thing on waste cooking oil. steve jmc wrote suddenly without warning joe exclaimed 1/2/2008 1216 pm @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments wow. so what are we talking 14/15 my 2001 4.7l 4x4 slt dak currently gets about 13.5 city 17-18 highway. but when it was new it got closer to 19mpg average both city and hwy-ish miles. i love my dak though wouldnt trade it for twice the mileage. jmc did dodge ever put a diesel in any of the dakotas i thought i saw a diesel jeep cherokee running around town here... i never did see one on a lot that i remember it seems to me it was a 3.0l diesel with quite impressive power. surprising north america hasnt made better use of diesel .

From : bill dukenfield

rdtaxted wrote i have an 2004 quad cab 4.7 have 52000 on it. replaced the starter as well at 51000 i just had 1 with a bad starter. whats the idle problem u mentioned mine would idler weird sometimes dropping to 500 r.p.m. put it in neutral go to 650 or so then back to drive idle would hold. dealer cleaned the trottle body seemed to help but would low idler now and then. now since winter has arrived i havent noticed the low idler problem. rog yep that is it. sometime after is warms up when you stop and light or stop sign the idle drops below 500rpm. sometimes if you are shifting gears to park it will stall. the dealer put a datalogger on it. it showed that the computer was calling for the low idle. they said it was not a problem and refused to fix it. thats when i filed the lemon law suit. tsbs were issued for the problem up to 2001 but not for the 2002. jam .

From : picasso

abby.normal wrote i cant get you the picture because its currently at 20.1 mpg. i stated 20 mpg earlier. btw if it were in metrics i would have stated km/l or something equally as silly. it is a us vehicle manufactured in the us for use by someone from the us. it would be wrong to set it to metrics since we dont use metrics in this country - although it is capable. actually the metric standard is l/100km 30 us mpg = 36 imp mpg = 7.8 l/100km 20.1 imp mpg is 16.8 us mpg are we talking about the same thing only us vs imp gallons im using a 3.79 gallon what are you using .

From : abby normal

us 128 oz gallon and the mpg rating is us miles 5280 ft. at 12 us in./ft. per us gallon. now indicating 20.2 mpg us 100% running cheap qt gas 100% synthetic lubricants throughout. abby.normal wrote i cant get you the picture because its currently at 20.1 mpg. i stated 20 mpg earlier. btw if it were in metrics i would have stated km/l or something equally as silly. it is a us vehicle manufactured in the us for use by someone from the us. it would be wrong to set it to metrics since we dont use metrics in this country - although it is capable. actually the metric standard is l/100km 30 us mpg = 36 imp mpg = 7.8 l/100kmo 20.1 imp mpg is 16.8 us mpg are we talking about the same thing only us vs imp gallons im using a 3.79 gallon what are you using .

From : iman nassoul

a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. back.off@nospam.net wrote us 128 oz gallon and the mpg rating is us miles 5280 ft. at 12 us in./ft. per us gallon. now indicating 20.2 mpg us 100% running cheap qt gas 100% synthetic lubricants throughout. abby.normal wrote i cant get you the picture because its currently at 20.1 mpg. i stated 20 mpg earlier. btw if it were in metrics i would have stated km/l or something equally as silly. it is a us vehicle manufactured in the us for use by someone from the us. it would be wrong to set it to metrics since we dont use metrics in this country - although it is capable. actually the metric standard is l/100km 30 us mpg = 36 imp mpg = 7.8 l/100kmo 20.1 imp mpg is 16.8 us mpg are we talking about the same thing only us vs imp gallons im using a 3.79 gallon what are you using .

From : joe

ive heard pretty much the same thing from other diesel owners. sounds like this is the way to go. steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in joe there are more possibilities than banks as well. i am running the the six gun and speed loader with the high ram intake turbo waste gate actuator and banks 4 exhaust system including the 4 straight through stainless glass pack muffler. there are simillar offerings from others that do similar deeds. basically you advance the timing of the injection events modify the common rail fuel pressure and modify the air flow into and exhaust gasses from the engine. these changes can be made without causing loss of mileage because diesel engines do not use air controls and therefore do not run under vacuum conditions. if fact the timing changes can actually increase miles per gallon. of course when your foot is in it you can expect to burn the fuel. however the message is that this extra reserve power comes at no sacrifice in efficiency. after driving a high perforfance diesel i will never drive another gas powered vehicle. the drivability with such low engine speed torque and the smoothness offered from idle to top speed are characteristics simply not available with gasoline engines which run under vacuum conditions unless wot. i can talk about this forever but before you commit yourself drive a cummins powered truck and see for yourself. then see if you can find an unhappy owner of one! steve got details on the banks kit sounds interesting. steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in 17 to 20 mpg and thats with a full banks kit almost 500 hp. the best mileage occurs on rural roads not on the freeways. the truck is about as aerodynamic as an outhouse. steve wow. so what are we talking 14/15 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments .

From : nosey

joe wrote ive heard pretty much the same thing from other diesel owners. sounds like this is the way to go. if you dont want a 3/4 or 1 ton truck just wait another year. the 2009 ram 1500 gets a 5.6l cummins v8 diesel. i bet the new 4.2l v6 cummins will be available for the dakota/durango within a few years too. http//www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/dodge/0612dpnewcumminsv6andv8/index.html http//www.allpar.com/model/ram/2009-ram.html -- ken .

From : joe

nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote in joe wrote ive heard pretty much the same thing from other diesel owners. sounds like this is the way to go. if you dont want a 3/4 or 1 ton truck just wait another year. the 2009 ram 1500 gets a 5.6l cummins v8 diesel. i bet the new 4.2l v6 cummins will be available for the dakota/durango within a few years too. http//www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/dodge/0612dpnewcumminsv6andv8/i ndex.html http//www.allpar.com/model/ram/2009-ram.html sweet. especially with todays technology its about time we started seeing more diesels in light-duty trucks. .

From : tom lawrence

a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. yes but a gallon of gasoline occupies 128 oz. an ounce is both a measure of weight and volume the fluid ounce. 16oz. to 1lb. and 16oz. to 1pint. gasoline weighs about 25% less than water water=8.33lb./gallon gasoline=approx. 6.3lb/gallon varies depending on blend .

From : nosey

tom lawrence wrote a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. anyone that frequently uses different units of measure may want to download this free conversion utility for windows. http//joshmadison.com/software/convert its a small applet that runs from any directory you put it in. it can be downloaded alone or with the installer but that probably isnt necessary for most people. -- ken .

From : nosey

sorry about misquoting you tom. -- ken .

From : abby normal

there are some folks here with a serious get a life deficit. if they were handed a couple of lives they would still need to get one more just to break even. geezz .

From : christopher d thompson

on tue 08 jan 2008 211927 -0500 nosey wrote didnt you move to kentucky not as of yet but thats still in the works. -- chris .

From : nosey

didnt you move to kentucky not as of yet but thats still in the works. well have to do the n.ga chapter get-together before you leave. steve full pull called me about a week ago. hes still in nh but he keeps talking about moving to roswell. hes afraid of moving here right now because of the drought. -- ken .

From : fmb

a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. back.off@nospam.net wrote us 128 oz gallon and the mpg rating is us miles 5280 ft. at 12 us in./ft. per us gallon. now indicating 20.2 mpg us 100% running cheap qt gas 100% synthetic lubricants throughout. iman when folks are talking about miles per gallon it is typical to talk about distance per volume. the 128oz abby refered to were fluid ounces not avoirdupois apothecaries or troy ounces. there are 29.573 milliliters to the fluid ounce. fmb north mexico -- posted via a free usenet account from http//www.tera.com .

From : christopher d thompson

on tue 08 jan 2008 102819 -0500 nosey wrote tom lawrence wrote a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. anyone that frequently uses different units of measure may want to download this free conversion utility for windows. http//joshmadison.com/software/convert its a small applet that runs from any directory you put it in. it can be downloaded alone or with the installer but that probably isnt necessary for most people. but not all of us runs m$ windows = how ya been ken -- chris .

From : nosey

christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 102819 -0500 nosey wrote tom lawrence wrote a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. anyone that frequently uses different units of measure may want to download this free conversion utility for windows. http//joshmadison.com/software/convert its a small applet that runs from any directory you put it in. it can be downloaded alone or with the installer but that probably isnt necessary for most people. but not all of us runs m$ windows = how ya been ken itll run on your penguin with wine. i quit working a few months ago so im retired again. i felt like i was wasting my time doing dot inspections. the night shift hours were horrible. with the commute time i was gone from home about 14-1/2 hours a day. you know how the 2-2-3 schedule works. i would have stayed if they could move me to the tractor shop but they wouldnt do it until a position opened up. with the downsizing that wasnt going to happen any time soon. people are leaving but they wont open any positions to replace them. after i left they didnt replaced me either. they had to pull a trailer mechanic from another shop to cover the inspection lanes on my shift. i think they want to close that terminal but they wont tell anyone. did you ever use the stacks that i gave you -- ken .

From : christopher d thompson

on tue 08 jan 2008 191430 -0500 nosey wrote christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 102819 -0500 nosey wrote tom lawrence wrote a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. anyone that frequently uses different units of measure may want to download this free conversion utility for windows. http//joshmadison.com/software/convert its a small applet that runs from any directory you put it in. it can be downloaded alone or with the installer but that probably isnt necessary for most people. but not all of us runs m$ windows = how ya been ken itll run on your penguin with wine. i quit working a few months ago so im retired again. i felt like i was wasting my time doing dot inspections. the night shift hours were horrible. with the commute time i was gone from home about 14-1/2 hours a day. you know how the 2-2-3 schedule works. i would have stayed if they could move me to the tractor shop but they wouldnt do it until a position opened up. with the downsizing that wasnt going to happen any time soon. people are leaving but they wont open any positions to replace them. after i left they didnt replaced me either. they had to pull a trailer mechanic from another shop to cover the inspection lanes on my shift. i think they want to close that terminal but they wont tell anyone. did you ever use the stacks that i gave you yes i know how that is the 2 2 3 schedule can be a killer. glad your retired now ya got time to play. we have discussed a get together on the other forum maybe we can actually get one of those together here this spring maybe. let the holidays get a little further behind us though i think. unfortunately the 05 met a ill fate before that project ever came together but i now have a 96 f350 thats looking like itll need some exhaust work sooner or later. if i dont decide to use them on this truck i may just wind up offering them up to someone else that wants them...ill have to think about it and see how that plays out. -- chris .

From : nosey

christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 191430 -0500 nosey wrote christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 102819 -0500 nosey wrote tom lawrence wrote a gallon is a measurement of volume not weight. a gallon of water weighs 128oz. a gallon of gasoline weighs slightly less. anyone that frequently uses different units of measure may want to download this free conversion utility for windows. http//joshmadison.com/software/convert its a small applet that runs from any directory you put it in. it can be downloaded alone or with the installer but that probably isnt necessary for most people. but not all of us runs m$ windows = how ya been ken itll run on your penguin with wine. i quit working a few months ago so im retired again. i felt like i was wasting my time doing dot inspections. the night shift hours were horrible. with the commute time i was gone from home about 14-1/2 hours a day. you know how the 2-2-3 schedule works. i would have stayed if they could move me to the tractor shop but they wouldnt do it until a position opened up. with the downsizing that wasnt going to happen any time soon. people are leaving but they wont open any positions to replace them. after i left they didnt replaced me either. they had to pull a trailer mechanic from another shop to cover the inspection lanes on my shift. i think they want to close that terminal but they wont tell anyone. did you ever use the stacks that i gave you yes i know how that is the 2 2 3 schedule can be a killer. glad your retired now ya got time to play. we have discussed a get together on the other forum maybe we can actually get one of those together here this spring maybe. let the holidays get a little further behind us though i think. unfortunately the 05 met a ill fate before that project ever came together but i now have a 96 f350 thats looking like itll need some exhaust work sooner or later. if i dont decide to use them on this truck i may just wind up offering them up to someone else that wants them...ill have to think about it and see how that plays out. didnt you move to kentucky -- ken .

From : nosey

nawww sounds good to me run it by the others and lets see if we cant find a date open thatll work. im off this weekend so ya know how to figure schedules from there. i need a couple of weeks to get caught back up with the $$$ been out of work for 3 weeks on medical leave and the short term disability pay out was a joke. arent your dog weekends fri sat and sun mine were sat sun and mon. red top is having a meet and greet with the rangers next sunday 20th. i think you are working that day. it sounds like its going to be like an open house $3 parking fee. they are supposed to have literature and info for 63 state parks available. it would have been a great opportunity for you to come check out the park and see exactly what they have to offer. i hate trying to make arrangements over the phone without knowing what is being reserved. -- ken .

From : christopher d thompson

on tue 08 jan 2008 221051 -0500 nosey wrote didnt you move to kentucky not as of yet but thats still in the works. well have to do the n.ga chapter get-together before you leave. steve full pull called me about a week ago. hes still in nh but he keeps talking about moving to roswell. hes afraid of moving here right now because of the drought. tell him to bring the rain along and hell be alright lol. well have to figure out a kinda central location for everyone to meet. maybe a ryans or something in atlanta i dont know you know that part of the state better than i do. -- chris .

From : nosey

christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 221051 -0500 nosey wrote didnt you move to kentucky not as of yet but thats still in the works. well have to do the n.ga chapter get-together before you leave. steve full pull called me about a week ago. hes still in nh but he keeps talking about moving to roswell. hes afraid of moving here right now because of the drought. tell him to bring the rain along and hell be alright lol. well have to figure out a kinda central location for everyone to meet. maybe a ryans or something in atlanta i dont know you know that part of the state better than i do. theres guys in dalton canton cartersville ellijay roswell and that guy who got rid of his dodge that lives in warner robbins. you can invite him if you want. everyone is north of atlanta except him. i dont have the space at my place to host anything. itll have to be someone else hosting or we could meet at a park somewhere. red top mountian on lake allatoona http//www.gastateparks.org/info/redtop/ -- ken .

From : christopher d thompson

on wed 09 jan 2008 132358 -0500 nosey wrote christopher d. thompson wrote on tue 08 jan 2008 221051 -0500 nosey wrote didnt you move to kentucky not as of yet but thats still in the works. well have to do the n.ga chapter get-together before you leave. steve full pull called me about a week ago. hes still in nh but he keeps talking about moving to roswell. hes afraid of moving here right now because of the drought. tell him to bring the rain along and hell be alright lol. well have to figure out a kinda central location for everyone to meet. maybe a ryans or something in atlanta i dont know you know that part of the state better than i do. theres guys in dalton canton cartersville ellijay roswell and that guy who got rid of his dodge that lives in warner robbins. you can invite him if you want. ouch!!! everyone is north of atlanta except him. i dont have the space at my place to host anything. itll have to be someone else hosting or we could meet at a park somewhere. red top mountian on lake allatoona http//www.gastateparks.org/info/redtop/ thatd be alright with me but isnt allatoona a mud hole *cheezy grin* -- chris .

From : nosey

thatd be alright with me but isnt allatoona a mud hole i havent been over there in a long time. i suspect its a dust bowl. i think it fills up quick in the warmer months but because the lake is so low the boat ramps are closed. that might make it easier to get reservations. i think it would be a good idea to do it where there is enough space that we wont bother anyone else and have camping available for anyone that wants to stay overnight. im open to other suggestions. -- ken .

From : picasso

joe wrote nosey kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com wrote in joe wrote ive heard pretty much the same thing from other diesel owners. sounds like this is the way to go. if you dont want a 3/4 or 1 ton truck just wait another year. the 2009 ram 1500 gets a 5.6l cummins v8 diesel. i bet the new 4.2l v6 cummins will be available for the dakota/durango within a few years too. http//www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/dodge/0612dpnewcumminsv6andv8/i ndex.html http//www.allpar.com/model/ram/2009-ram.html sweet. especially with todays technology its about time we started seeing more diesels in light-duty trucks. like the 3.0l v6 in the ranger in thailand. .

From : abby normal

i cant get you the picture because its currently at 20.1 mpg. i stated 20 mpg earlier. btw if it were in metrics i would have stated km/l or something equally as silly. it is a us vehicle manufactured in the us for use by someone from the us. it would be wrong to set it to metrics since we dont use metrics in this country - although it is capable. abby.normal wrote need a picture abby.normal wrote i get ave. 20 mpg with my 4.7 2007 dakota joe wrote wow. so what are we talking 14/15 steve lusardi stevenospam@lusardi.de wrote in @.t-online.com joe yes i do. it doesnt use diesel. my 3500 dually gets better mileage. steve anybody have one impressions and/or comments i get 18 to 22 in my 2wd lwb dakota. jam i bet you do. id love a picture. you talking us mpg or imperial mpg 4.4l/gal or 3.79l/gal convert it to a real unit like litres and kilometers l/100km or something standard. .

From : christopher d thompson

on wed 09 jan 2008 170527 -0500 nosey wrote thatd be alright with me but isnt allatoona a mud hole i havent been over there in a long time. i suspect its a dust bowl. i think it fills up quick in the warmer months but because the lake is so low the boat ramps are closed. that might make it easier to get reservations. i think it would be a good idea to do it where there is enough space that we wont bother anyone else and have camping available for anyone that wants to stay overnight. im open to other suggestions. nawww sounds good to me run it by the others and lets see if we cant find a date open thatll work. im off this weekend so ya know how to figure schedules from there. i need a couple of weeks to get caught back up with the $$$ been out of work for 3 weeks on medical leave and the short term disability pay out was a joke. -- chris .

From : christopher d thompson

on wed 09 jan 2008 190149 -0500 nosey wrote nawww sounds good to me run it by the others and lets see if we cant find a date open thatll work. im off this weekend so ya know how to figure schedules from there. i need a couple of weeks to get caught back up with the $$$ been out of work for 3 weeks on medical leave and the short term disability pay out was a joke. arent your dog weekends fri sat and sun mine were sat sun and mon. red top is having a meet and greet with the rangers next sunday 20th. i think you are working that day. it sounds like its going to be like an open house $3 parking fee. they are supposed to have literature and info for 63 state parks available. it would have been a great opportunity for you to come check out the park and see exactly what they have to offer. i hate trying to make arrangements over the phone without knowing what is being reserved. yes i have to work sunday the 20th and you are right about my long weekends being fri sat sun. -- chris .